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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:23 PM
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Pace: Suicide Bombs Reflect Terrorists' Desperation ("a major blow to AQ")

http://www.theconservativevoice.com/articles/article.html?id=11300

Pace: Suicide Bombs Reflect Terrorists' Desperation

American Forces Press Service


WASHINGTON, Jan. 5, 2006 – The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff called today's escalated violence in Iraq another indication that Dec. 15 elections there were "a major blow to al Qaeda" and a sign of desperation among terrorists hoping to disrupt the Iraq's progress. Scores of people were reported killed and wounded today in two car bombings in Iraq.

After three successful elections in Iraq during 2005, with increasing voter turnout with each election, terrorists recognize their failure to stop the democratic process from moving forward, Marine Gen. Peter Pace told Pentagon reporters today.

"And I think what you're seeing now is their continuing attempt to disrupt the proper formation of the Iraqi government," he said. "And I'm very confident that they'll fail at this as well.

"So I see the terrorist attacks as acknowledgement on the terrorists' part that this is a center of gravity (in the war on terror) and that they're losing," Pace said.




This sounds familiar?


http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/05/30/cheney.iraq/

Iraq insurgency in 'last throes,' Cheney says

<snip>

"I think we may well have some kind of presence there over a period of time," Cheney said. "The level of activity that we see today from a military standpoint, I think, will clearly decline. I think they're in the last throes, if you will, of the insurgency."



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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:25 PM
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1. Yes, 170 Iraqis 7 US KIA in 2 days = evidence of desperation & failure
They can't even plan suicide missions, let alone carry them out, can they?

Yes, General, black really is white, isn't it!!

:puke:
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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:32 PM
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2. I can imagine the guy stole the wit from Saturday Night Live!
What a joke.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:33 PM
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3. They will continue suicide attacks because it's part of their culture.
It's a totally acceptable way for them to resist the enemy, just as it was totally acceptable and even laudable (from their viewpoint) for Japan's Kamikaze pilots. People in America may think it's a sign of desperation, but it's really simply part of their arsenal.

Albert Axell explains that Kamikaze pilots were part of the national military policy of Japan during the 2nd World War. He writes that Japanese Vice Admiral Takashiro Ohnishi noted that the most effective way to inflict damage to warships was to crash planes into them. Those attacks took the American fleet completely by surprise - they were bewildered by the suicide missions and completely unable to comprehend the mentality behind them. We learn, however, that the call for kamikaze pilots drew a staggering response, with three times as many volunteers for suicide flights as the number of planes available.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/058277232X/104-0810021-9815949?v=glance&n=283155

We eventually "defeated" the Japanese, with their willingness to commit suicide in attacks against their enemy. Will we use the same measures in Iraq? x(
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:43 PM
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5. Wasn't part of their culture in Iraq before.
It is now.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:52 PM
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8. I think some aspects of culture remain dormant until circumstances require
IOW, this is not something they would ordinarily do, but it is not something considered taboo for them to do if they feel the situation is urgent enough.

I can't think of a parallel in American culture where people are willing to do something they ordinarily would not do, but perhaps the Civil War is a good example, where neighbor turned against neighbor, friend against friend, brother against brother. That is to say, our culture allows us to kill people we ordinarily hold dear if they piss us off enough.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:35 PM
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4. How much more of their failure and desperation can we stand???
Arrrrgh. The stupidity of these people!
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:51 PM
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6. pretty silly, even from them.
but they are not going to admit that they are in no way 'in control' of iraq, that they control only a few small areas and roads (and even that is in some doubt), that they don't even trust the new iraqi military OR police, that the election they have proclaimed to be a great success was, just not for the occupiers but for mostly religious based parties, and that all the 'good news' that is broadcast or read about in iraqi 'media' has been bought and paid for by us dollars.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:52 PM
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7. Desparation haha
Stepping up intensity cause they are desparate hahaha
Stay the course
Desparation good word
A thousand bOOMS later
Hmmm words still apply Desparation :rofl:
A milliom bOOMs later hmmm still apply

Well US drop over 2 million bOOMs on them
Desparation :rofl:

Oh well what gross misuse of a brain and a mouth.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:56 PM
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9. Slavery Is Freedom
Happy is sad, up is down, black is white. Does ANYBODY other themselves believe any of this doublespeak?

Jeez!
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:58 PM
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10. Pace is a sock puppet with...
... Rumsfeld's hand up his ass.

There's a fundamental illogic in the belief that the more people the insurgents kill, the more desperate they are, unless it's just propaganda for domestic consumption. Either way, it's at odds with common sense and the truth.

Some reporter needs to get Pace good and drunk and record everything he says.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 12:23 AM
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11. We can only succeed by continual failure, until that one time
we get it right. So far we are failing miserably. Every time a native Iraqi dies from Coalition weapons, another child or parent is pushed toward extremist ideology. Iraq had some kind of 'election' process while soldiers and insurgents continue to die. People will willingly give their lives if left with nothing to lose. How many of those 30,000 dead have family with nothing left to lose? It is a simple matter of public pacification, which won't happen with guns and bombs.
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