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mourningdove92 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:08 AM
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Ariel Sharon dies
JERUSALEM — Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, the most powerful Israeli leader in 50 years, has died. He was 77.

Sharon was declared dead by physicians at Jerusalem's Hadassah Hospital before 1 p.m. Israeli time <6 a.m. EST>, Middle East Newsline reported. Authorities have already been notified of the death, and a government announcement was expected to be issued over the next hour.
http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/06/front2453741.9118055557.html

pray for Israel
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:09 AM
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1. still nothing on CNN or MSNBC...
...fwiw.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:09 AM
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2. Why aren't you watching Fox?
just kidding.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:10 AM
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6. ...because of my blood pressure.
;)
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:17 AM
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18. After They Cover The Missing Blonde in.......



Arruba.....then they will cover Sharon.....
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:21 AM
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22. The "miracle" miner is blonde...
...does that count? ;)
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:10 AM
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3. I don't know how to react
When he took the hard-line by going to the Temple Mound, I hated what he did....I just don't know what to make of him now.

RIP Sharon.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:22 AM
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23. The Temple Mound incident was an insult....
Shortly after, the violence erupted again. I think he was nothing but a warmonger and Israel AND Palestine are better off without him.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:52 AM
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39. He dared to visit a site considered holy to the Jews and Muslims?
Some people were just looking for an excuse for mayhem.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:10 AM
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4. this is not being reported anywhere else?
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:12 AM
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7. Drudge headline now says conflicting reports on Sharon's death...
CNN & MSNBC carrying McCloy medical news conference.:shrug:
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:25 AM
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27. AP only has alert his surgery has ended
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:12 AM
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10. not that I've seen.
Reports are that he's just out of the 3rd surgery.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:42 AM
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33. It's on the front of yahoo news.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:45 AM
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35. that he passed away?
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:49 AM
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37. Not now, but that's what I read there first - that he died
then I came here to see opinions here.

Now it's saying he's out of brain surgery.
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RockaFowler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:10 AM
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5. This is awful
I know there was no way he could have come out of this, but at least I thought I could hope a little
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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:12 AM
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11. Why is it awful when a war criminal dies?
Edited on Fri Jan-06-06 10:14 AM by QuettaKid
Sabra and Shatila. 'nuff said. Nothing on the Haaretz website.
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wixomblues Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:19 AM
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20. Such ignorance and hate.
The man is not a war criminal. You show little understanding of the middle east, or the conflict.
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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:23 AM
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25. whatever. nt.
.
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Bruce McAuley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:22 AM
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24. I agree, he was a butcher of people..
Edited on Fri Jan-06-06 10:24 AM by Bruce McAuley
My first reaction when I saw the headline was, "Good!".
On edit, maybe everything he did was justified by self defense, but he was NOT a man of Peace.

Bruce
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:46 AM
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36. I'm wondering the same thing too.
I consider him a war monger.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:12 AM
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8. My prayers are with his family and for the Middle East.
Oh dear. I hope we can muddle through this.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:12 AM
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9. Israeli newspaper has this: "clinically dead"
Edited on Fri Jan-06-06 10:14 AM by rainbow4321
http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/7461.htm

CONFIRMED: PM ARIEL SHARON IS (AT LEAST CLINICALLY) DEAD


Reliable sources indicate to Israel Insider that PM Ariel Sharon died at 11 am. Israeli media channels still report his condition is "very grave." Director of Hadassah Hospital Shlomo Mor-Yosef officially denies "rumors" of death and says Sharon's condition is "serious but stable."

Channel 10 reports those closest to Sharon as saying he has suffered "brain damage." A likely explanation to reconcile the two reports is that Sharon has suffered brain death -- the lack of cerebral activity -- but that his heart continues beating, while he remains anesthetized and respirated.

Mor-Yosef, briefing journalists at the hospital's gate, said that "the prime minister is suffering from low intracranial pressure, and is heavily sedated. He will be respirated for at least the next 24 hours. All the parameters that we can check are as expected, following an operation of this type."

He said he came out to counter rumors of Sharon's death. "I came out to update you and to refute the rumors flooding the country," he said, referring to rumors claiming that Sharon had already died, and that the news is being delayed for one reason or another.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:15 AM
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16. I believe that's from yesterday...
...although I wouldn't dispute that Sharon is clinically dead, given the massive damage from the cerebral hemorrhage.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:13 AM
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12. Said they took him out of surgery at 9 a.m. EST
on NYT.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:13 AM
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13. He was a man who loved his people
The only nice thing I can say.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:19 AM
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21. not all his people
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:14 AM
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14. Supposedly 4 hours ago, but others say the op has finished
Doctors have finished an emergency operation on Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, but results are not yet clear, a hospital spokeswoman has said.

Mr Sharon, 77, was rushed into the operating theatre after a scan revealed fresh bleeding in his brain.
...
At 1210 (1010 GMT) on Friday, hospital director Shlomo Mor-Yosef told reporters Mr Sharon had returned to the operating theatre.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4586488.stm


I think World Tribune isn't the most reliable 'news' site we have. Until a genuine bit of the world media confirms this, this is speculation and rumour.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:15 AM
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15. Vice Premier Ehud Olmert expected to succeed Sharon
Anyone have any information on Olmert?
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Pert_UK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:17 AM
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17. BBC's latest news ticker still says he's alive...nothing on google...
I'm dubious about this story.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:17 AM
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19. BBC and SKY News still saying that he's alive and critically ill
So I'll wait until the BBC says something.

However, Sharon will probably be dead by tomorrow. Although politically I didn't agree with many of his views, I wish him no harm and I wish him a safe journey into the next life.

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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:23 AM
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26. not dead yet?
going maybe
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:28 AM
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28. World Tribune Cites Middle East Newsline -- But MEN Is NOT Reporting Death
I'm holding off until we see confirmation.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:29 AM
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29. It's a good thing the Senate isn't in session. Fristy would be announcing
that he won't declare him dead until he sees the videotape and can make his own judgement, "speaking not as a Senator, but as a medical doctor."
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:32 AM
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30. CNN just reported "awaiting update from hospital"(paraphrase)
didn't say anything about death...
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:33 AM
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31. I am not dead yet, I can dance and I can sing...
...I am not dead yet
I can do the Highland Fling

I am not dead yet
No need to go to bed
No need to call the doctor
Cause I'm not yet dead.

- from Spamalot
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:44 AM
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34. "I feel happy"
I can't help but hear that voice from Holy Grail. I'm not dead yet!
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:40 AM
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32. Sharon NOT dead - Dr's just said he's still critical, but stable...
World Tribune gets it wrong...
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allemand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:49 AM
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38. Hospital: CT shows significant improvement, inter-cranial pressure normal
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:54 AM
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40. Locking.
This appears to be the only report of this news and other more recent news is claming that he has come out of surgery and had significant improvement.
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