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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 05:00 PM
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Tiguas want Abramoff contributions returned to tribe
http://www.kristv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4329873

WASHINGTON The Tiguas of El Paso wants campaign contributions it gave while employing disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff -- returned to the tribe.

Ysleta Del Sur Pueblo Governor Arturo Senclair today said the El Paso-based tribe isn't demanding its donations back. But Senclair says anyone returning money should check with the Tiguas first.Abramoff this week pleaded guilty to federal charges in a bribery investigation that's now focusing on members of Congress and their aides.Since then, lawmakers have been ridding themselves of donations from Abramoff and his clients.

The tribe's Speaking Rock casino was shut down in 2002 by an anti-gambling ruling.U-S Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison is keeping three-thousand dollars received from the tribe. Hutchison says she doesn't know Abramoff and returning the contributions would be an insult to the tribe.

...short blurb...
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BlueCollar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 05:07 PM
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1. "...an insult to the tribe..."
KBH needs a reality check...after she figures out what PERJURY means...
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 05:07 PM
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2. There's my esteemed senator! What a greedy pig! Is 3k worth it?
Edited on Fri Jan-06-06 05:10 PM by Justitia
She makes me nuts.

Good for the tribe - they have every right to what they were defrauded of, and it is unconscionable that anyone would think of giving it to some other organization without considering the tribe first.

On edit: I just saw that this is a TEXAS tribe - wow - how stupid can she be?
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BlueCollar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 05:13 PM
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3. Too much blonde bleach
has affected this woman's brain. She is truly one of the stupidest excuses for a human being to run for office in Texas...but then there's Bush, Cornyn, Sessions, Delay....

never mind...
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 05:44 PM
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4. Amazing that no one thought of this before, but that is how racism
works. The victim is invisible.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 06:51 PM
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5. oops ((self deleted posted twice))
Edited on Fri Jan-06-06 06:56 PM by MagickMuffin
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 06:55 PM
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6. check out this list!
just see where the Congresscriters are donating the money. A lot of the Dems are returning it to Tribe's causes, however it's a different story for the Repubs. I think it should be returned to the original owners!

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-corrupt6jan06,0,2519602,print.story?coll=la-home-nation

This week:

-President Bush, $6,000 from Abramoff, his wife and the Saginaw Chippewa Indian Tribe of Michigan for the Bush-Cheney 2004 re-election campaign is being donated to the American Heart Association. Abramoff raised at least $100,000 for the campaign.

-House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill. A spokesman would not say how much money Hastert received or planned to donate.

-House Majority Leader Roy Blunt, R-Mo., $8,500 to charity.

-Former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas, $15,000 to local charities in suburban Houston.


-Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., $2,000 to be returned to the Michigan Saginaw Chippewa Indian Tribe.

-Senate Minority Whip Dick Durbin, D-Ill., $11,000 to the American Indian Center of Chicago and the American Indian Health Service of Chicago.

-Republican Maryland Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich Jr., $16,000.???

Other Senate Republicans:

-Christopher Bond, R-Mo., $12,500 to the Salvation Army.

-Jim Bunning, R-Ky., $1,000 to the St. Elizabeth Medical Center inpatient hospice program.

-Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga., $1,000 to the Georgia National Guard Family Support Foundation.

-Thad Cochran, R-Miss., $8,000 to the Mississippi Hurricane Recovery Fund.

-Norm Coleman, R-Minn., $3,000 to be refunded or for charity.

-Elizabeth Dole, R-N.C., $1,000 to charity.

-Mike Enzi, R-Wyo., $1,000 to charity.


-Judd Gregg, R-N.H., $12,000 to Marguerites Place.

-Johnny Isakson, R-Ga., $5,000 refunded. Isakson also donated $4,000 to the Salvation Army in December.

-Jim Inhofe, R-Okla., $2,000 to be donated to medical research

-Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., refunding $4,000 to three Indian tribes.

-Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., $18,500 to the Wayside Christian Mission.

-Rick Santorum, R-Pa., $2,000 to charity.

-Gordon Smith, R-Ore., $8,500 to be refunded or for charity.

-Ted Stevens, R-Alaska, $16,500 to charity. Stevens also donated $1,000 to the Alaska chapter of the Red Cross in December.

-John Sununu, R-N.H., $3,000 to charity.


-Jim Talent, R-Mo., $2,000 to be refunded. Talent also refunded $3,000 in August 2005.

-Craig Thomas, R-Wyo., $8,000 to victims of the 2005 tornado in Wright, Wyo.

-John Thune, R-S.D., $2,000 to White Buffalo Calf Woman Society.

-John W. Warner, R-Va., $1,000 to charity.

Senate Democrats:

-Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., $2,000 to charity.

-Tim Johnson, D-S.D., $8,250 to Billy Mills Running Strong for American Indian Youth.

-Barbara Mikulski, D-Md., $5,000 to the American Indian College Fund.

House Republicans:

-Rodney Alexander, R-La., $2,000 to charity.

-Dan Burton, R-Ind., $19,000 to charity.

-Dave Camp, R-Mich., $500 to charity.


-Chris Cannon, R-Utah, $2,000.

-Eric Cantor, R-Va., about $10,000 to the William Byrd Community House.

-Barbara Cubin, R-Wyo., $250 to charity.

-Thomas M. Davis III, R-Va., amount uncertain.

-Kay Granger, R-Texas, $2,000 to Boys and Girls Club of Greater Fort Worth.

-J. Randy Forbes, R-Va., $1,000 to charity.

-Melissa Hart, R-Pa., $2,000 to two women's shelters.

-J.D. Hayworth, R-Ariz., $2,250 to the Salvation Army Katrina Disaster Fund.

-Sam Johnson, R-Texas, $2,000 to the Dallas-Fort Worth USO.

-Walter Jones, R-N.C., $1,000 to the Salvation Army.

-Donald Manzullo, R-Ill., $2,000 to be returned to the Mississippi band of the Choctaw Indian Tribe.

-Jim McCrery, R-La., $35,000 to the Salvation Army.

-Marilyn Musgrave, R-Colo., $1,000 to Crossroads Safehouse.

-Bob Ney, R-Ohio, $9,000 to charity.

-Tom Petri, R-Wis., $11,000 to charity.


-Chip Pickering, R-Miss., at least $2,500 to the Mississippi Hurricane Recovery Fund.

-Deborah Pryce, R-Ohio, $8,000 to charity.

-Hal Rogers, R-Ky., $32,000 to the UNITE Foundation.

-Paul Ryan, R-Wis., $949 to USO Operation Phone Home.

-Jim Saxton, R-N.J., $7,000 total refunded in 2004, 2005 and 2006.

-Bill Shuster, R-Pa., $1,000 to charity.

-John Sweeney, R-N.Y., $2,000 to St. Jude Children's Research Hospital.

-Curt Weldon, R-Pa., $2,000 to charity.

-Jerry Weller, R-Ill., at least $500 to charity.


-Roger Wicker, R-Miss., $250 to Mississippi Hurricane Recovery Fund.

-Heather Wilson, R-N.M., $1,000 to the Great Southwest Council of the Boy Scouts of America.

House Democrats:

-Henry Cuellar, D-Texas, $500 to be returned to the Tigua Tribe of El Paso.

-Peter DeFazio, D-Ore., $1,500 total to be returned to the Agua Caliente Band of Cahuilla Indians in California and the Michigan Saginaw Chippewa Indian Tribe.

-Eliot Engel, D-N.Y., $1,000 to be returned to the Saginaw Chippewa Tribe.

-Lane Evans, D-Ill., $2,000 to Community Caring Conference.

-Tim Holden, D-Pa., $1,000 to an animal shelter.

-Nita Lowey, D-N.Y., $2,000 to be refunded.

-Earl Pomeroy, D-N.D., $6,950 to be refunded.

-Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., $2,000 to charity.

December 2005:

-Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., $18,892 to seven tribal colleges.

-Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan., $42,000 to charity.

-Sen. Conrad Burns, R-Mont., about $150,000 donated to Native American charities and refunded.

-Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., $3,750 to North Dakota's tribal colleges.

-Sen. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D., $67,000 refunded.

-Rep. Mike Ferguson, R-N.J., $1,000 to the Center for Hope Hospice. Ferguson also donated $1,000 to the Children's Specialized Hospital Foundation in August 2005.

-Rep. Ernest Istook, R-Okla., $6,000 to the Oklahoma Medical Research Foundation.

-Rep. Denny Rehberg, R-Mont., $19,900 refunded and given to charity.

August-November 2005

-Rep. Frank LoBiondo, R-N.J., returned $1,000.

-Rep. Ralph Regula, R-Ohio, $1,000 to the American Indian College Fund.

-Rep. Rob Simmons, R-Conn., $1,250 to the Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund.

February 2002

-Sen. David Vitter, R-La., $6,000 refunded.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 07:03 PM
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7. If it is money from Abramoff, it should go to charity
if it is money from Abramoff's victims (the tribes), it should go back to them if they want it and kept if they don't.



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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 07:19 PM
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8. As they should be! n/t
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Sabien Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 07:51 PM
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9. When you play with fire...
...expect to get burned

Apparently Quid pro quo doesn't work in reverse. Whoever heard of Quo pro quid?

:nopity:
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:32 PM
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10. Tiguas got a triple whammy from Abramoff -
First, he took money from another tribe to close their casino. Then, he gets money from them to get their casino re-opened and later referred to them as "monkeys and troglodytes" - real nice guy!!!
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