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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 01:14 AM
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Lock them up to die - prison bird flu plan (New Zealand)
Lock them up to die - prison bird flu plan

Some prisoners would be set free, but the most dangerous (?!?) would be locked away and left to take their chances and the dead buried in mass graves if an Asian bird flu epidemic hits New Zealand's jails.

Government planning documents reveal that low-security prisoners would be released, but the most dangerous prisoners would be left at the mercy of the killer disease.

Entire prisons would be sealed - nobody would be allowed in or out for up to six weeks - and mass graves would be dug in prison compounds to dispose of bodies.

The proposals, details of which were obtained by the Sunday Star-Times, are part of Corrections Department contingency plans to deal with an Asian bird flu pandemic hitting New Zealand and its 7500 prison population.

<snip>

What is Bush's prison bird flu plan???

Lori Price

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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 01:30 AM
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1. What alternatives are there?
It's a quarantine. Given an epidemic, would you actually propose turning dangerous, violent, felons who have been exposed to the disease loose?

:shrug:
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 01:35 AM
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3. Well, I don't trust the most dangerous, violent felon - Bush himself -
to make any bird flu policies in the US. You can be sure - in any scenario envisioned - that one - numerous poor people will die and two - Halliburton and Blackwater USA will (literally) make a killing. Can you say Hurricane Katrina?

Lori Price
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 02:36 AM
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9. I don't trust the BFEE, either.
But I really don't think New Zealand's limited proposal has anything to do with what would happen here.

Actually, if the BFEE only quarantined prisons, I'd be really surprised, since their objective would likely be more along the lines of a nationwide lockdown, suspension of the Constitution, and imposition martial law. They'd just love any excuse.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 06:40 AM
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12. Plenty of rich people died in the 1918 pandemic. n/t
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Clara T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 01:33 AM
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2. Bird flu as bogeyman
Edited on Sun Jan-08-06 01:35 AM by Clara T
'What is Bush's prison bird flu plan??? "

To scaremonger, distract and profit.


Cui Bono?

Rumsfeld's growing stake in Tamiflu
Defense Secretary, ex-chairman of flu treatment rights holder, sees portfolio value growing.
October 31, 2005: 10:55 AM EST
By Nelson D. Schwartz, Fortune senior writer

NEW YORK (Fortune) - The prospect of a bird flu outbreak may be panicking people around the globe, but it's proving to be very good news for Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and other politically connected investors in Gilead Sciences, the California biotech company that owns the rights to Tamiflu, the influenza remedy that's now the most-sought after drug in the world.

Rumsfeld served as Gilead (Research)'s chairman from 1997 until he joined the Bush administration in 2001, and he still holds a Gilead stake valued at between $5 million and $25 million, according to federal financial disclosures filed by Rumsfeld.

The forms don't reveal the exact number of shares Rumsfeld owns, but in the past six months fears of a pandemic and the ensuing scramble for Tamiflu have sent Gilead's stock from $35 to $47. That's made the Pentagon chief, already one of the wealthiest members of the Bush cabinet, at least $1 million richer.

Rumsfeld isn't the only political heavyweight benefiting from demand for Tamiflu, which is manufactured and marketed by Swiss pharma giant Roche. (Gilead receives a royalty from Roche equaling about 10% of sales.) Former Secretary of State George Shultz, who is on Gilead's board, has sold more than $7 million worth of Gilead since the beginning of 2005.

Another board member is the wife of former California Gov. Pete Wilson.

more...
http://money.cnn.com/2005/10/31/news/newsmakers/fortune...
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 01:40 AM
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5. Right, and the Tamiflu garbage doesn't even work for avian flu:
Doctor says bird flu drug is 'useless' 04 Dec 2005 A Vietnamese doctor who has treated dozens of victims of avian flu claims the drug being stockpiled around the world to combat a pandemic is "useless" against the virus. "We place no importance on using this drug on our patients," Dr Nguyen Tuong Van runs the intensive care unit at the Centre for Tropical Diseases in Hanoi, said. "Tamiflu is really only meant for treating ordinary type A flu. It was not designed to combat H5N1 . . . (Tamiflu) is useless."

Bye-bye, Rumsfeld Tamiflu stock portfolio, :rofl:

Lori Price

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 01:37 AM
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4. 7500?
What ae they? Sissies? :sarcasm:
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 02:08 AM
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6. Hi Lori Price!
:hi: Thanks for posting this!

:think: I'm thinking of what Bush would do... Bush would dump us all to gitmo!
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 02:12 AM
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7. Hi, Rainscents! Yup, I am thinking the Bush regime's plan is...
far, far more odious than New Zealand's plan.

With the bird flu, Bush can continue to remain in office as dictator, declare martial law, quarantine the undesirables, and kill off millions of people in order to eliminate the Social Security 'problem.' The New Orleans experiment worked so well for them...

Cheers,
Lori Price
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 10:41 AM
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13. Your original post asks the question...
"What is Bush's plan?" You seem to be answering it in this post, yet offer no information to back up your assertions. Why?
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 02:13 AM
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8. If there is a pandemic the government goes in survival mode
and felons isn't a high priority!!!
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 09:42 AM
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10. ISn't that what was done in New Orleans? n/t
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 01:35 AM
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11. Exactamundo, and great point! n/t
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