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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 01:21 AM
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Gore to deliver scathing speech Monday on 'constitutional crisis' in D.C.
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Gore_to_deliver_scathing_speech_Monday_0112.html

by John Byrne

Former Vice President Al Gore will deliver a scathing speech Monday at Constitution Hall in Washington -- just blocks from the White House -- at which he will declare America is faced with a constitutional crisis, RAW STORY has learned.

The Martin Luther King, Jr. Day speech is set to take place at noon at the Daughters of the American Revolution's Constitution Hall. Gore will be introduced by onetime Georgia Republican congressman Bob Barr.

(snip)

(Aide describing Gore's planned remarks) “We are at a point of constitutional crisis," the aide said, relating how Gore has articulated his speech. "The president who has violated the law is acting above the law. It’s a wakeup call for Congress, the American people and the courts. If we continue down this road we will have a different constitution.

(more... )
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 01:30 AM
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1. GOOD!
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 01:31 AM
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2. I would love to vote for him.
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 01:41 AM
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3. thank you for this info, AlGore-08.com! k&r
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 01:48 AM
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4. "It’s a wakeup call"!! you tell 'em, Al! WAKE!! UP!!! eom
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:58 PM
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97. Wake up and STAND UP....or be ignored
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dhill926 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 01:54 AM
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5. he's running....
in 2008. If he denies it, it's a sure thing. Hah!
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 08:33 AM
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19. um...what does that have to do with the message?
are we NOT having a constitutional crisis?

should congress NOT wake up and address it?

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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:00 PM
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37. I'd love to see that happen.
We'll know in the next year or so.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 12:07 PM
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78. Wow. I just found out from some person with 31 posts that Gore's running
in 2008. What a letdown. Here I was, thinking that Gore was all concerned about the death of democracy and all that crap, and now I discover it's just a political ploy to try and make Bush look bad and set himself up for another try in 2008. Dang.
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 02:02 AM
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6. Bob Barr is going to introduce him? Gut-check time, freepers.
Time to choose between the Bush Cult or the United States Constitution.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 02:09 AM
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8. This is probably the bigger story
It may mark, formally, the end of Republican discipline and obedience to Team Bush.

--p!
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 02:32 AM
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12. Barr has been out of office for years....
And he left bitter and angry at the GOP.....

But he has remained a consistent critic of those who bend the rules to fit themselves...

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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:22 PM
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38. Quite true
But Barr still has a lot of name recognition. He probably still has ambitions, and a successful run for office while those who stabbed him in the back are facing prison time would give him some very satisfying revenge.

Barr was also a constant critic of Clinton and Gore, and his motivation was a lot baser than he pretended. Perhaps he learned his lesson -- and the lesson of history. Re-aligning himself with Gore (who has also changed quite a bit in the last six years), at least for the occasion, would send a very clear, very loud message to the GOP, as well as the voters in Georgia.

I do think it could signal the end of Republican Party solidarity. Hopefully, it will prevent Team Bush from managing the tandem Alito hearings and Abrahamoff scandal to their own advantage. But it's sure to be Yet Another Blow to the sagging fortunes of the Bush juggernaut.

--p!
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 02:33 PM
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43. Good points....
The GOP in Georgia is going to face some hard times already via the Ralphie Reed scandal...

Barr aligning himself with Gore could, well, lower the Barr for acceptance of the Democratic PArty once again....
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FourStarDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 10:02 PM
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60. I would like to think that alot of good will come from this, BUT...
Bob Barr is imo pretty much isolated from most of the current politicians/ brownshirts of the Republican Party. Being a former congressman, he has very little influence among the Republican electorate. Except for his recent Washigton Post OpEd, he is also not widely published to my knowledge or in a high profile media postition to be able to influence, but that may be changing soon, because he was recently hired as a political analyst for CNN (mainly to comment/analyze the ongoing Abramoff/Delay scandal)

If Bob Barr plays it right, he MAY be able to forment a grassroots revolt against this regime among the traditional conservative grassroots who feel that the party left them, but that remains to be seen.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 02:52 PM
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45. hope so! we are now knee deep in a Constit Crisis
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 02:54 PM
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46. WTF? Bob Barr and Gore together at a DAR function?
Wait what was that? (excuse me I think a monkey just flew out of my butt!)

This is something else--
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 02:41 AM
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65. amazing. hope he doesn't get arrest in this New Amurka
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 02:09 AM
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7. President Gore, if this slime of a scotus nominee goes through...
...we will have a different Constitution.

I don't know Senate ettiquette, but I hope & pray that Gore and others of stature are paying visits to Dem members of Congress who have their heads in the sand. Please, please, Mr. Gore, they must be woke up.
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PDX Bara Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:54 AM
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26. Head in the sand...
Makes a good target for a kick in the derriere.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 06:00 AM
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66. So does having one's head up their butt
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 02:10 AM
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9. Great! Best News, Yet!
Edited on Fri Jan-13-06 02:12 AM by AuntiBush
Monday, huh. How 'bout it DUers? I haven't visited the DAR in sometime. As a member, it might do me some good.

And thanks Raw Story & Al Gore. You know things are bad if he's coming to Washington.

From above link:

Gore, the source said, will talk about the framers of the constitution.

"You can’t defend freedom while abandoning it at home," the source said, speaking of Gore's planned remarks. "The founders thought about this. They didn’t want a king, that’s why they didn’t set up a system to anoint a king. We have checks and balances in this country and we cannot abandon them."
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 11:52 AM
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36. The Right is so ready to give away our god-given rights
I saw Tweety interviewing whistle blower Tice about the NSA spying, and Tweety basically said he didn't care because the prez had to keep us safe from the evil-doers.

Tweety is a first class whore who does not have Constitutional authority to give away my rights. Go Cheney yerself, Tweety. Go give the commander that blow job you've been wanting to give him so we can finally have impeachment before fascism is irreversible.

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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 02:18 AM
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10. Will the whore press report on it?
Perhaps.

Take this advice Mr. Gore, call Bush and Cheney "corrupt shitbags up each other's asses" and you'll get enogh press to get your message out.

Otherwise...forget it.
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 03:20 AM
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16. ^call Bush and Cheney "corrupt shitbags up each other's asses"
THAT WOULD BE FUCKING AWESOME! Take the gloves off and pepper the speech with some obscenities.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 03:46 AM
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17. I'm suffering from full-moon madness tonight, but I'm just about
Edited on Fri Jan-13-06 03:49 AM by Kurovski
as fed up as I've ever been with the media, and the half-assed measures and weak attempts to break through the media "lockdown" on info.

There is language that can be every bit as strong as obscenity, and I hope Gore uses it.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 02:21 AM
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11. I think the big news stations need to know we want this covered.
Not just C-Span.
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 02:40 AM
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15. yes, and he needs to make sure there is day after day follow on coverage
the push starts now!
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 02:39 AM
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13. Damned good!
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 02:39 AM
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14. I'm cheering for Gore! Good to see him say it like it is. He should run
Let it be Gore/Kerry in '08

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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 03:56 AM
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18. Wow!
This is going to be a killer speech. I'll bet Gore is really mad. I'm surprised he's going to be introduced by Bob Barr of all people. Politics makes strange bedfellows, so to speak.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 08:40 AM
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20. i can't see al resisting a draft.
i think that if we really called him, he would answer. draft al gore!
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:08 AM
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23. Up until a couple of months ago
I would have disagreed with you; however, I think the climate of corruption has gotten SO bad in DC that Americans are ready for a change -- an "upgrade." Much like Carter after Nixon/Ford. I've been a detractor in the past, mainly the way Gore listened to his "handlers" in the 2000 elections That and the USSC lost him the election. However, it seems like he came away from that experience having learned some hard lessons. They guy just needs to be himself. He's smart, witty and has some real leadership qualities. I think Americans might be ready to revisit a Gore candidacy.
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Sick_of_Rethuggery Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 08:53 AM
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21. Please, please request C-SPAN coverage. n/t
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 08:55 AM
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22. Mr. President,
:yourock:

Please reconsider 2008! The planet needs you now more than ever!
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:43 AM
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24. BOB BARR is introducing him????
Somewhere, a freeper's head is exploding.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 10:51 AM
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29. I can't believe it either. Bob Barr?
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 02:14 PM
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42. Bob Barr is concerned with privacy rights.
Here is an article about Barr and the ACLU. No kiddin'...

http://www.aclu.org/privacy/gen/15182prs20021125.html
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:25 AM
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67. BOB BARR says Constitution & freedom have never been so threatened!!!!
Edited on Sat Jan-14-06 09:30 AM by wordpix
This on NPTV's "Now" with David Brancaccio last night
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Im with Rosey Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 04:53 PM
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52. Hopefully more than just one
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:49 AM
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25. This is fantastic.....Go Gore! n/t
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 10:04 AM
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27. "A" Constitutional crisis? Try SEVERAL.
Spying
Lying
Single control
Questionable elections
...

unquestioned.
Crisies.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 10:36 AM
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28. Great. This accomplishes what?
Edited on Fri Jan-13-06 10:36 AM by saracat
Gore has about as much influence as Dan Quail. Now if Clinton were to speak out, it might be another story.I like what Gore is saying but he hasn't any power.
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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 11:04 AM
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32. LOL which Clinton do you mean?
Last time I checked, Bill doesn't hold an elected office either.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:46 PM
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40. But he was still voted by one of the journals "Most influential man in the
world". They talk of him being a "world president". When Bill talks, people listen and more importantly, things happen. Problem is he isn't talking. Al talks, it means nothing and no one hears about it because the media ignores him.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 03:17 PM
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47. This is precisely why we need Al Gore for President.
The corpwhorate owned MSM sold their collective souls and the American People down the river years ago. To have a Statesman with the integrity and substance of Al Gore be ignored by such traitorous bastards when he speaks out on the critical issues of the day whether it be Global Warming, the run up to the ill conceived war against Iraq or the threat posed against our democracy by the power mad Bush/Cheney regime is a badge of honor. This is just further evidence to me that Al Gore is on the right side of history, and should be a major clue to the corpwhorate owned MSM as to why they are held in such low esteem by the American People.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:25 PM
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54. But most Americans don't care about Gore. Sad but true. We need someone
who commands the attention of the "average" voter, and Gore doesn't do that. It isn't to say he shouldn't . it is just he doesn't.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 06:11 PM
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55. The coup of 2000 proves otherwise,
as at least half a million more "average" voters nationwide chose Al Gore over Bush. This does not take in to account the tens of thousands of "average" voters that were disenfranchised during Florida's corrupt "felon" purge, or the thousands voting for Pat Buchanan on the infamous Butterfly Ballot when they thought they were voting for Al Gore,
or the ballots that were not counted when the Republican Congressional Aide Thugs (or R.A.T.s if you drop Congressional) were flown in to Florida for the sole purpose of them to intimidate the election counters from doing their duty and counting the ballots.

Al won the 2000 election in spite of the baggage Clinton left him from the Lewinsky scandal. Al won the 2000 election in spite of the corpwhorate owned MSM that were determined to trash him because he empowered you and me when he championed the internet, they wanted to keep their monopoly on the truth and power to them selves, not share it with the "average" American Voter. Sort of like an enraged Zeus who had Prometheus chained to a rock and have a vulture eat his liver for all eternity because he dared to steal fire from heaven and give it to mankind. How many "average" voters were brainwashed by the corpwhorate owned MSM in to believing that Al actually claimed to have invented the internet?

The corpwhorate owned MSM made the primary issue of the 2000 election with the "average" voters not about competence but instead about integrity and honor, why do you they did that? You can climb in to bed if you like with whoever the corpwhorate owned MSM touts as the "average" voter's saviour, but I shall not.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 10:08 PM
Response to Reply #55
61. Thank you, and well said!
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 12:50 AM
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64. I agree about 200 but this is 2006.
Gore hid for too long and then came out gus ablazing. He should have run in 2004. He had a moral imperative and I think he would have won. He didn't and it is too late now.But that is just my opinion. If he were our nominee, I would vote for him.
But I just don't think he commands any attention anymore. It would be nice to be proven wrong.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 10:16 PM
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74. Don't forget Nixon. Same thing, only things are much more in Gore's favor
Edited on Sat Jan-14-06 10:16 PM by TankLV
It's been only 6 years. Gore will have plenty of time to reconnect - and a lot more positively than Tricky Dick ever could imagine!

I would vote for him in a heartbeat over every one else, including "saint kerry" - ESPECIALLY over "saint kerry"!
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 11:49 PM
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75. Well I might agree with you except for the gratuitous Kerry bashing. John
Kerry is one of the most effective leaders we have working for us today and would have been a superb President. As a sitting Senator he did not have the luxury of cowering away and hiding for several years licking his wounds as Gore did.He has had as well as chosen to be front and center fighting for those issues that concern us.And before you launch into the tired litany he has also been involved in election reform. I would vote for John Kerry in a heartbeat. I can honestly say I would have a problem voting for Gore in a primary. Should he ever be the nominee again, I will be pleased to support him.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 12:19 PM
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83. I agree with what you say about Kerry. BUT, we need someone
not afraid to tell the swiftboaters to go to hell. Not afraid to say he made a mistake in giving Bush the support to go to war. Not afraid to stand up against the NeoCons.
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second edition Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 12:55 PM
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86. Well Kerry has done all those things and is still speaking out.!
That said, this is about Gore, so I will now listen to his speech.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:19 PM
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88. If he had he would have won in 2004. nm
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second edition Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:37 PM
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92. There was more to it than just speaking out-which he did. ! n/t
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second edition Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:37 PM
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93. There was more to it than just speaking out-which he did. ! n/t
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 04:30 PM
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110. His advisors told him not to speak out. He never confronted GWB
the war criminal. He never confronted the swiftboaters. He has yet to speak out (very loud that is) and denounce his actions supporting the war. He is nice and a hard worker, but we need someone with guts.
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second edition Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 12:19 PM
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82. Why? I would be interested in knowing why not Kerry. I like Gore to,but...
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 04:37 PM
Response to Reply #40
51. He isn't talking because he's
hanging around Poppy too much.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 06:33 PM
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118. What it accomplishes depends upon...
...how many people take action, and how many people pooh-pooh it.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 10:52 AM
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30. thanks to our actual, elected president, Al Gore-I'll vote for you again
any day
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 02:25 AM
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125. Kick!
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 10:56 AM
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31. Isn't Monday too late?
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 11:21 AM
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33. "scathing" ? will this just be words thrown into the wind?

like another poster said, this is a bit late for scathing talk. (has anyone ever heard Gore speak scathingly about anything?)

the deeds are done and our democracy has been done in. it's over, finished.

I'd rather see Gore camping out in front of the W.H. or the Capitol holding up signs and leading us in protest.

what good will another speech do?
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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 11:42 AM
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35. What good did Dr. King's "I Have A Dream" speech do?
What good did the Gettysburg Address do?

What good did FDR's first inaugural address do? (For those who don't know, that's the "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself" speech.)

How 'bout JFK's inaugural address? (Again, for those who don't know, that's the "Ask not what your country can do for you... " speech.)

As for "has anyone ever heard Gore speak scathingly about anything?"... you might want to read his speeches and op-eds:

http://www.algore.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=category§ionid=6&id=71&Itemid=84
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:37 PM
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39. His speeches have been barn-burners
He came away from 2000 a changed man. I remember him very distinctly saying he wasn't running in 2004 because the "money" in the democratic party wouldn't support him. Too radical.

I understand donsu's frustration, though. Speech is necessary; people have to grow into an understanding, a viewpoint that supports action. But we are at a point where we really need substance. We need change, and right soon. I'm afraid we are at a point of no return. Fascism isn't reversible except through the collapse of the state. Is that what America wants? Do we have to hit bottom before sobering up?
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:48 PM
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41. Most excellent compilation of Al's speeches and opeds,
thanks for the link. I cannot remember the last time, I was eager for a Monday to get here on a Friday.

I believe Al's transpartisan speech will give cover for some Republicans to get behind a serious investigation and impeachment proceedings against Bush/Cheney.

Kicked and nominated.

:kick:
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 12:12 PM
Response to Reply #35
79. Well, King, Lincoln, FDR & JFK all got heard. Can we expect the
Libberul Meeja to do as much for Al?

I doubt he'll get 10 secs on the nightly news, & even that will be something grossly out of context & accompanied by some sort of snide, demeaning commentary.
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 11:32 AM
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34. Go Gore! NOW go back and reclaim your RIGHTFUL Presidency...
Edited on Fri Jan-13-06 11:33 AM by zann725
There are SOOOO many Repug scandals happening, soon most "Powers-That-Be" will be wearing orange.

This Democracy and Constitution will NOT be destroyed by these thugs, and it's up to courageous people like Gore, Conyers, Kennedy, etc...to continue saying so LOUDLY in public speeches, such as Gore's today.

Does anyone know where this speech will be aired? CSPAN?
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 02:44 PM
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44. why didn't this al gore run in 2000?
instead of that 'me too' corporate apologist.

i would have voted for this guy
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 03:20 PM
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48. Sounds GREAT - will it get ANY play in the MSM?
Boy, I hope so. We need a big, fat, loud wake-up call in the most desperate way.
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WhereThereIsFire Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 03:23 PM
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49. YEAH! President GORE! ...
Edited on Fri Jan-13-06 03:23 PM by WhereThereIsFire
If the correct procedures had been followed, he'd have been in office 2000-2004 and would now be into his second term. Having grown up in TN when his Dad was Senator ... and everyone in the state thought he walked on water ... I've watched his son work from the same level of high, highest, integrity! That those criminals were able to rob Al Gore of his legitimately won office is something I will NEVER forgive!
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PVK Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 04:29 PM
Response to Reply #49
50. Please Al, run for '08.
Save us.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:59 AM
Response to Reply #50
68. pls, pls, pls--you know all the Dems with good brain power to get us out
of * messes
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 12:16 PM
Response to Reply #50
81. Too late, the corporations want Hillary. nm
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leanin_green Donating Member (823 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:37 PM
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121. Good, Al has been spoilin' for that fight with the Clintons anyway.
I can think of nothing better than to have such a clear distinction on the nature of the Democratic Party than a fight between Clinton/DLC loyalists and Al Gore and the rest of the party. We need that fight, I want that fight! It's a fight for the soul of the party.
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 10:04 AM
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69. That's right, Al should be in the WH now!
I, too, will never forgive. I can only dream of what this country would have been like now if Al had been President. Sigh...
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 07:41 PM
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71. If we get a chance to see him, we should chant, "President Gore!!!"
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Im with Rosey Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 04:58 PM
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53. The Nation
is reporting it as a "Call to Arms". Who is with me?
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leanin_green Donating Member (823 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:39 PM
Response to Reply #53
122. Count me in, I'm ready. n/t
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 06:21 PM
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56. Has anyone introduced a bill of impeachment in the House?
No!

If they won't filibuster Alito, how can we expect them to impeach Bush.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:13 PM
Response to Reply #56
87. I thought Conyers did....sorry if I was mistaken
And a republican controlled Congress WON'T impeach. That's why 2006 is so important. If Dems take control there WILL be impeachment.

(I hope. Some Dems have lost their spine.)
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:02 PM
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57. ALSO SEE THIS ARTICLE-- speech will be on CSPAN
Gore to Address "Constitutional Crisis" John Nichols
Fri Jan 13, 11:01 AM ET

The Nation -- It sounds as if Al Gore is about to deliver what could be not just one of the more significant speeches of his political career but an essential challenge to the embattled presidency of George W. Bush.

In a major address slated for delivery Monday in Washington, the former Vice President is expected to argue that the Bush administration has created a "Constitutional crisis" by acting without the authorization of the Congress and the courts to spy on Americans and otherwise abuse basic liberties.

Aides who are familiar with the preparations for the address say that Gore will frame his remarks in Constitutional language. The Democrat who beat Bush by more than 500,000 votes in the 2000 presidential election has agreed to deliver his remarks in a symbolically powerful location: the historic Constitution Hall of the Daughters of the American Revolution. But this will not be the sort of cautious, bureacratic speech for which Gore was frequently criticized during his years in the Senate and the White House.

Indeed, his aides and allies are framing it as a "call to arms" in defense of the Bill of Rights and the rule of law in a time of executive excess.

MUCH MORE AT LINK

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20060113/cm_thenation/149140;_ylt=A86.I1VT5MdDkIcATQ39wxIF;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHVqMTQ4BHNlYwN5bnN1YmNhdA--
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Gingergal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:48 PM
Response to Reply #57
58. Will be LIVE on CSPAN on Monday
11:00 Am CST
12:00 noon EST
CSPAN I
May be earlier or later!!
<http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/fullschedule.csp?timeid=212004157275>
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 08:42 PM
Response to Reply #58
59. Thanks, Gingergal-- I can't wait :=)
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 10:57 PM
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62. Gore...the first person that I ever voted for...
it would be an honor to vote for him again for president...and even more so, to work for his campaign!!
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fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 12:44 AM
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63. It's been 2 years I repeat it.
The constitutional crisis in question was in plain sight in November 2000, at the very moment when the USC blatantly betrayed its function and the people. Which he knew back then as well. The choice was to open it or not. It is still there, and of course worse. This is the sort of discourse and debate we need. Not the opportunistic, spectacular and empty reframing ala Rodham. Al can redeem himself from his understandable fear of taking on such a tremendous, truly historical this one, challenge in 2000 and from the guilt he must have felt at the sight of the Idiot stomping toward glory. Maybe a few brave men we have...
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 01:30 PM
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70. We have got to get this man to run for Prez -- he's the only one who has
the stature as well as the kahunes necessary to win for the Democrats. He's not compromised by any vote giving the Chimp authority to attack Iraq and in fact is one of the few Democratic leaders to have found the right side of the Iraq war in a timely fashion; he is one of the few to really understand the implications of the constitiutional crisis and the threat of open fascism we face; he's one of the few that really gets the devastating consequences of global warming and the need to discover and use alternative, renewable energy -- and he rightfully is due the position of the presidency since it was openly stolen from him in 2000!!!!

BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE! GORE IN 08 -- for the sake of our DEMOCRACY!!!
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 07:42 PM
Response to Reply #70
72. the repukes will try to rip up whoever runs but we're ready for them-
bring it ON, Constitution-burners!
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:35 PM
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73. I'm hoping that this will be the greatest of all speeches and
will inspire our Democratic leaders to great heights.
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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:52 AM
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76. Kick
:kick:
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 12:02 PM
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77. Kick and how can I see/hear it? What time and network?
:shrug:
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 12:34 PM
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84. C-Span on right now....Go Al Go
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:24 PM
Response to Reply #84
91. Just caught the end. Will it be rebroadcast?? nm
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 02:12 PM
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98. They had no plans to re-broadcast the speech but
Check C-Span after 6 PM they may change this due to all the calls they are getting...
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 02:13 PM
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99. Thanks Tippy. Is that 6 pm EST? nm
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 02:15 PM
Response to Reply #99
101. Yes sure is sorry,,,,N?T
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nofoil Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 04:01 PM
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106. Just called them
I suggest everyone call cspan and tell them to re-air it!

The number is (202) 737-3220

They said that they would post any scheduling information to their page after 6:00PM ET today

Here's the link http://www.cspan.org/about/index.asp?code=About
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #98
108. "all the calls C-span is getting"---hahahaha, take that, repugs
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Copperred Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 12:13 PM
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80. Barr a no show?
:p
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Nictuku Donating Member (907 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 12:36 PM
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85. That was too coincidental
... the satellite link died the moment he was to be introduced (was live when they walked on the stage)

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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:20 PM
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89. I'm crying This man should have been our President!!!
These corrupt officials!!! YOU Suck!!!
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nofoil Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 03:56 PM
Response to Reply #89
105. I'm crying too!



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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:22 PM
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90. President Gore is delivering a very scathing speech!
Gore 08 maybe?
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 02:16 PM
Response to Reply #90
102. If Clinton is nominee, i m writing in Gore. nm
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 03:19 PM
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103. Maybe Gore-Clinton 08
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 04:51 PM
Response to Reply #103
111. How about Gore/Clark? I would vote for that combo. However,
I'd prefer Clark/Gore.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 05:14 PM
Response to Reply #111
112. I like Clark but
I don't think he has the clout of Gore or Clinton
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:49 PM
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94. there is another thread on Gore's speech but cannot find-mods, pls. help
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:53 PM
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95. Great speech but now watch how the press ridicules and ignores him.
Sigh.

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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:56 PM
Response to Reply #95
96. IF they cover the speech at all; after all the corporate whore press won't
like it that Gore ripped the BushCo strategy and incompetent, lying implementation to shreds
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 02:15 PM
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100. How about "Corporate Whore Media" (CWM). Better than MSN. nm
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 04:27 PM
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109. I meant better than MSM. nm
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 05:33 PM
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115. CWM, that's OK but M$M also says it all
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nofoil Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 03:52 PM
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104. I WAS THERE! YEAY!
WOW! That's all I can say. The energy was electric. By the end, the audience kept rising for spontaneous standing ovations: one after the other, to just about every point he made. Nobody could keep us down. Al was finally saying what we've known all along, and have just been waiting to hear from a DC pol. Too bad the conservative congressman who was supposed to introduce him lost his feed. Would have been over the top powerful.

Anyway, I waited for Gore at his car with a little group of people, and when he exited the building, I shouted, "this was for the history books, AL!" Tipper smiled. Let's hope this actually gets some coverage. We'll have to see how it plays in the papers tomorrow. Has anyone seen coverage on the TV news stations? Is the story still playing, or is it already lost?




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snacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 04:09 PM
Response to Reply #104
107. OMG....lucky you!!!!! n/t
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 05:18 PM
Response to Reply #104
113. I wondered why the washington post didn't have his speech on website
Edited on Mon Jan-16-06 05:19 PM by savemefromdumbya
They said it will be tomorrow because they are 'thin staffed' today (MLK day)

Cool, it must have been electric inside the hall?
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 05:32 PM
Response to Reply #113
114. had tech trouble at time, scoured net for a feed & found only Cspan cover
covered the event. Pretty disappointing but maybe tomorrow is our day!?
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:10 PM
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120. now in washington post online
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countingbluecars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 06:43 PM
Response to Reply #104
119. Hi nofoil.
I was there too, and I was also in the little group of people waiting at Gore's limo. You're right about the energy in the crowd. It was a great speech.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 06:07 PM
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116. Podcast from C-SPAN here, I had problems with
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AlGuest Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 06:27 PM
Response to Original message
117. lol
From someone who was a big part of an administration
that argued that the president has "inherent authority" to
order wiretaps for foreign intelligence purposes without any
warrant or permission from any outside body.

Quote...
"The Department of Justice believes, and the case law supports,
that the president has inherent authority to conduct warrantless
physical searches for foreign intelligence purposes,"
-- Deputy Attorney General Jamie Gorelick, July 14, 1994

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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:58 PM
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123. Wiretaps are " physical searches " ?
:silly:
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 01:51 AM
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124. Kickerooo!!!........Goooo Gore!!!
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