Prince Charles denies allegations

[muriel_volestrangler]

"In recent days, there have been media reports concerning an allegation that a former Royal Household employee witnessed an incident some years ago involving a senior member of the Royal Family.

"The speculation needs to be brought to an end.

"The allegation was that The Prince of Wales was involved in the incident.

"This allegation is untrue. The incident which the former employee claims to have witnessed did not take place."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/uk_news/3249031.stm

Of course, no one is saying exactly what this allegation is yet, because no one thinks they've got enough evidence to withstand a libel trial. I think this 'incident' was said to be consensual (as opposed to another involing 2 royal servants that wasn't), and may be on the tapes Diana was said to have made (whoever has those now).

[Screaming Lord Byron]

1. Could this be more vague?

[Rowdyboy]

2. There have been some (so far) unproven

that Pr Charles has been involved in gay sex with a couple of members of the staff.

[muriel_volestrangler]

3. Not very much more

As this anti-monarchy site (handily publicised by Channel 4 News last night) says, this would appear to be about some unspecified homosexual act between Charles and a member of his household. If true, as it says, it would have a little bearing on the Church of England gay issue.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

6. Thank you. Now I get it.

Check out.

http://www.throneout.com/

[SemperEadem]

34. Honi soit qui mal y pense!!!!!!!!!!!

well, that's nothing new to the monarchy

King Edward II died by having a red hot fire poker rammed up his butt by his wife and her lover. He was openly gay..

King James VI & I was openly gay--and head of the Church in England, too--the same dude the bible is named after.

So, this isn't going to get any kind of mileage except with those who are anti-monarchy... the throne is well provided for, so it's nothing that's going to upset the balance of power in England.

means: evil to him who thinks evil

[SoCalDem]

5. True..

like..

"..I heard that something bad might possibly have happened somewhere, and that someone might have been responsible, but I don't know for sure, and all parties are denying any knowledge of anything that might have happened, or maybe not".. film at eleven :eyes:

[hlthe2b]

4. Any and All incidents, both now, in the past, and in the future...

alleged to involve this or any other member of the Royal family, either by themselves or in combination with mere commoners, in this or any other alleged way, are now, on the record, categorically denied.....


Well, all rightee, then......

[Myra]

9. This sounds like one of the "Homeland Security" alerts

Orange Alert!
Red Alert!
Periwinkle Alert!

Huh? Against what?

Don't worry your little head about niggling
details! Just *BE AFRAID*...Be very very afraid...

[goforit]

7. LOL!!!!..............A denial of something that is not there.........

hints that there could be something.

SH SH SH.......

[MoonAndSun]

8. The butler, Paul Burrell has some tapes or papers or something,

(can't quite remember from last week) in his attorney's offices of damaging claims of some sort. It seems that the butler knows all of these secrets.

He had better watch his back!

[Rowdyboy]

10. For detail on the dirt...

http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/news/content_objectid=13581159_method=full_siteid=106694_headline=-REVEALED--SECRETS-OF-THE--RAPE-TAPE--name_page.html

Naughty, naughty royals.

[MoonAndSun]

11. here is a snip of the Mirror article posted by Rowdyboy..

snip> Bryan said: "George has talked to me about the tape and what's on it. He said that although Diana was keen to get evidence against the servant who he said raped him, she was far more interested in what he had to say about the other incident."

"It was around 8am and the senior butler was on a day off, so it was George's job to take breakfasts to the rooms," said Bryan. "He had done this before and the protocol would be to give a gentle knock on the door, open it, and leave the tray on a table inside.

"But when George knocked and opened the door of one member of the royal family, he said he almost froze in shock at the sight before him. He said it was completely surreal.The royal and the servant were tucked up under the sheets, lying next to each other."

Contrary to reports, George categorically told his brother that he did not see the two men engaged in a sexual act. Bryan said: "George has told me there was no physical activity but you didn't have to be a brain surgeon to work out what had been going on. George hesitated for a split second, put the tray down and then left - very swiftly. There was no word from the royal or the servant. And they never mentioned it to George."







if it was Charles, he will be skipped over for William when the time comes.

[PassingFair]

15. Balls! Said the Queen!

If I had them I'd be ____!

Sounds like they could be talkin 'bout Phillip...

[0007]

12. Ah, them Buckingham Palace stories.....

are as juicy as reading stories from "The Pearl" - Maybe better!

[DCDemo]

13. Ah...the Pearl

It's been years since I met someone who has read it! Great saucy reading....makes you realize that people have ALWAYS been people, and naughtiness, kinkiness, and exploration have been with us for a long time and are not just the product of "socialist, liberal, commie-loving Democrats"....

[0007]

19. Remember when "The Pearl" was banned in this country?

God! those were awful days!! And with Ashcroft in power it appears we're going back to those awful days.

[The White Rose]

27. Years since you met someone who admits to reading it...

;-)

[cliss]

14. heh heh, oh those royals

I did actually read a while back that there were some allegations about Prince Charles having certain encounters in the royal palace, of all places.

Well, more fodder for the Daily Globe and the National Enquirer. Do you suppose they do this on purpose? Their skeletons get pulled out of the closet every year or so, sometimes more often. New scandals, new allegations. More relatives dragged into the mess.

I posted here recently that since Charles has people picking up his clothes off the floor and has a servant squeezing his toothpaste for him, he deserves to get in trouble.

Maybe it brings in more tourist revenue.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

16. If any of this can be proven (doubtful)

that's gotta be sayonara for the royals

[LibLabUK]

21. Err

"that's gotta be sayonara for the royals"

Why?

What does it matter if one or more of them is/was/will be gay (with all the reasonable caveats about the consensual nature of the alledged act)?

The people profiting from these allegations (the authors and newspapers) are sickening.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

22. Don't get me wrong. I don't object, The tabloids will destroy them.

Never underestimate their abilities.

[LibLabUK]

23. Sorry

I didn't mean to insinuate in anyway that you were homophobic, and I apologise if you took that I did.

I honestly don't think the tabloids will or would want to.

The Royals bring in far too much money for the Tabloid press... it would be like killing the goose that lays the golden egg.

We'll see.

Personally, I'm getting really really tired of hearing about celebrities sex lives. I really don't see how it should be any one's business but theirs... (usual caveats apply). I can't see why people want to read about who's doing what to who...

[Screaming Lord Byron]

24. Agreed. I always felt a layer of hypocrisy about sex in British Culture

when I lived there, so I fear for Charles. I like the guy. I want rid of the monarchy, but the guy's a decent human being. When Diana died there was a moment where I reckoned that if the tabloids had put the boot in, that would kill the monarchy. The fact that they didn't maybe supports your argument, but I keep thinking about Oscar Wilde, when it comes to gay men having sex getting reported. My feeling is that if anything were proven, Charles could not be king.

[LibLabUK]

25. I agree with most of what you're saying.

Except, I don't want to get rid of the monarchy, infact, the alternative worries me. I look at the elected heads of state from other countries and I really don't see anything different or fairer (in Europe and the US, they're all rich white guys who've got decidedly dodgy pasts). I like the fact that Blair isn't HOS and it annoys him, and I thank God that Thatcher wasn't.

I'd much rather see a totally elected House of Lords, than an elected President.

If Charles turns out to be gay, I'll not care... but I agree with you that it would probably mean he'd have to abdicate (I'm not sure of the laws on such things, but if Edward VIII couldn't marry a divorcee I'm guessing man-on-man loving is right out).

[Screaming Lord Byron]

26. Fair enough. It is a tough call. n/t

[muriel_volestrangler]

28. Ireland's elected 2 OK presidents recently

Mary McAleese and Mary Robinson.

I'm sure there wouldn't be a precise law forbidding the King to have had a homosexual relationship (for that matter, I don't think there was a law against marrying a divorcee; it was just held to be 'unacceptable'). It is his future position as head of the Church of England that (a) gives problems about marrying Parker Bowles (b) might be embarrassing if they decide that homosexuals shouldn't become bishops.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

29. I was thinking less along legal lines.

And more along the lines that they could not tolerate or accept it, and would surreptitiously pit the kibosh on him.

[LibLabUK]

33. Hmm

Ireland's an exception :)... although I don't know enough about Irish politics to say much more about it.

But I defy anyone here to say that President Thatcher would have been acceptable. :)

"It is his future position as head of the Church of England that (a) gives problems about marrying Parker Bowles (b) might be embarrassing if they decide that homosexuals shouldn't become bishops."

Maybe it would give the Church a push in the right direction.

I don't for an instant believe any of these allegations will amount to anything more than tabloid sensationalism.

Anyway, the Monarchy really won't be an issue when we become the European superstate...ruled from Brussels by faceless bureaucrats straightening our bananas and making us speak esparanto...atleast that's what the Tories keep telling me (through the fillings in my teeth) :)

[Unknown Known]

17. This proves that Camilla is a man!

No wonder Diana took on a lover and Harry's the spittin' image of him. Maybe William was conceived in vitro.

Those crazy Windsors:eyes:

[noonwitch]

20. It's hard to tell-William looks so much like his mother.

I feel bad for those boys.

If this is true... maybe the conspiracy theorists are right about Diana's death, and this is the secret they thought would never get out. I thought maybe there was some thing about Diana they didn't want people to know, like, I don't know, maybe she had sex with the Bill Clinton or something.

[NashVegas]

18. "That Sheep's a Damn Liar"

is all I can think

[Guaranteed]

30. This is the most surreal thing I've ever heard.

I just saw some guy on TV, denying something that he could not mention.

He said something like, "While I can not give any details of the incident, I can tell you that it's untrue."


Okay...........................................

And I thought *I* was loony.....

[Sideways]

31. Ugh Charles Is In Oman

When Ray and I were leaving the Al Bustan hotel last night the security was unreal. They had fucking TANKS on the highways.

Me thinks Charles was headed here as a way to get the media out of his face. Oman is tight with the UK and the US and is a real convenient stop for Chuck right about now.

Why else would he be here in sleepy Oman if he wasn't trying to dodge the press?

I have no dog in this hunt and I am not after Charles but for him to be here in Oman is just too fucking weird.

[Bridget Burke]

32. "AN IMPORTANT LEGAL ANNOUNCEMENT"

For legal reasons, this week's "Shadow" is unable to publish any details concerning allegations surrounding the Prince of W***s, *** **** ** ***** ****** ***** his butler **** ******** ****** in the palace **** ******** 'massage' *** **** ***** ** ********** * ****** ** **** *** pulling him off **** **** *** ******* ** ** ******** ******* a goat.

(From a weekly joke list distributed by http://p45.net/ --an Irish website that does enjoy a bit of friendly Brit-bashing from time to time.)