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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:55 AM
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Gold set for another bounce (1/16/06 - currently @ $561 oz)
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,17839572%255E664,00.html

GOLD is expected to test new highs this week as tension over Iran's nuclear program propels investors towards the metal as a safe haven.

More than half of traders surveyed by Bloomberg this week advised buying gold, with the yellow metal soaring again yesterday to $US556 an ounce.

Gold climbed briefly to $US558.80 last week, a 25-year high. It reached a record $US850 an ounce in January 1980.

Geopolitical tensions can spur demand for gold as investors seek a haven from instability in financial markets.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:01 AM
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1. My mantra: "Gold is good," I guess now more than ever! nt
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:03 AM
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2. Heh-heh, did you check out how the buck faired over the week-end?
The euro is doing quite well since Iran threatened higher oil prices for the west as well. Looks like central bankers are buying up a few euros for safe keeping while our markets are on holiday. May not need to wait for that Iranian oil bourse to open....
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:15 AM
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4. here's what I can find on the dollar
http://quotes.ino.com/chart/?s=NYBOT_DX.H06

Last trade 88.66 Change -0.57 (-0.64%)
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:23 AM
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6. On our way to last March's low of 81.28? We "achieved" that in about a
months time. :shrug:
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EuroObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:18 PM
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8. Hmm. that March dollar now 88.34. Spot rates:
http://today.reuters.com/Investing/Currencies.aspx
Updated: Mon 16 Jan 2006 | 1:08 PM ET9

Currencies
US $ ¥en Euro Can $ UK £ Aust $ SFranc
1 US $ = 1.0000 114.8800 0.8250 1.1588 0.5657 1.3255 1.2795
1 ¥en = 0.008700 1.0000 0.007180 0.010084 0.004923 0.011535 0.011134
1 Euro = 1.2115 139.2100 1.0000 1.4042 0.6855 1.6065 1.5505
1 Can $ = 0.8625 99.1100 0.7118 1.0000 0.4880 1.1435 1.1039
1 UK £ = 1.7667 202.9800 1.4579 2.0475 1.0000 2.3423 2.2608
1 Aust $ = 0.7539 86.6300 0.6221 0.8738 0.4266 1.0000 0.9646
1 SFranc = 0.7812 89.7700 0.6446 0.9054 0.4421 1.0359 1.0000
Data delayed at least 20 minutes.

(Dollar-Euro 0.8250)

http://yahoo.reuters.com/financeQuoteCompanyNewsArticle.jhtml?duid=mtfh98408_2006-01-16_15-53-34_l16768618_newsml
FOREX-Dollar gains vs euro, yen in thin technical trade
Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:53 AM ET

LONDON, Jan 16 (Reuters) - The dollar rose broadly on Monday in technically-driven trade, with the euro's earlier gains on recent supportive comments from European Central Bank President Jean-Claude Trichet giving way as investors took profits.

The yen slipped against the dollar and euro, having failed to hold above a key chart level as speculators trimmed back their holdings, although analysts said sentiment was still broadly dollar negative.

Trading was thin with market players reluctant to take big positions due to a holiday in the United States for Martin Luther King day.

"The market was reluctant to push the euro above $1.2150 and we've seen it slowly come down from there during European trading," Calyon senior currency strategist Daragh Maher said.

By 1530 GMT, the euro was down 0.1 percent at $1.2127, but still fairly close to a three-month high of $1.2180.


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EuroObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:52 PM
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9. More London metals reports:
http://investing.reuters.co.uk/investing/financeArticle.aspx?type=economicIndicatorsNews&storyID=URI:urn:newsml:reuters.com:20060116:MTFH95892_2006-01-16_14-11-21_L16010248:1
GLOBAL MARKETS-Gold hits 25-yr peak, oil rises, shares steady
Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:11 PM GMT
LONDON, Jan 16 (Reuters) - Gold prices jumped to a 25-year high on Monday, oil prices rose as tensions between Iran and the West simmered and violence grew in Nigeria, and the dollar remained near a three-month low against the euro.

European shares were steady after a fall in Asian markets, while Wall Street was closed due to a holiday.

Dealers said investors and fund managers have been buying precious metals because of uncertainty over high energy prices, fears of militant attacks and the dollar's outlook.

Talk also resurfaced of central bank buying in the Middle East, as U.N. Security Council members discussed steps to curb Iran's nuclear programme .

Spot gold prices leapt to as high as $561.25 an ounce while platinum rose to its highest level in nearly 26 years.


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http://yahoo.reuters.com/financeQuoteCompanyNewsArticle.jhtml?duid=mtfh98408_2006-01-16_15-53-34_l16768618_newsml
UPDATE 7-Gold and platinum prices scale new heights
Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:54 AM ET
LONDON, Jan 16 (Reuters) - Gold rose to fresh 25-year peaks in Europe on Monday while platinum hit its highest ever as fund managers pushed more money into commodities and talk resurfaced of central bank buying.

Silver notched up an 18-1/2-year high, while palladium hit its highest in a month.
...
By 1533 GMT spot gold was at $561.60/562.40 a troy ounce, just off a fresh high of $562 and up from New York's late quote on Friday of $556.50/557.25.

Alan Williamson of HSBC Bank voiced concern at the speed of gold's rally. "We quite like metals, but probably not at these prices. Look at the way gold has gone -- up $100 an ounce in less than two months."

Others saw that as bullish as they felt the dynamics in the market had changed.

"It's not inconceivable that you could see $600, $650 or a silly number, but I think gold is getting above its fair value," Williamson said. He forecast an average price of $520 in 2005.

Silver rose to $9.25, its firmest since May 1987 before dipping back to $9.20/9.23, still up from $9.10/9.13.



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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:04 AM
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3. Wow!
I remember saying to my father's girlfriend, the day after Thanksgiving, that gold was heading for $500 and now look!
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:18 AM
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5. I missed this news - maybe the death of Kuwait's Sheikh plays into
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:15 AM
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7. My gold fund jumped dramatically this month...
Its truly amazing...
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 02:29 PM
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10. Unlike kings, politicians and bankers
Gold doesn't lie. You can take any currency, that's only backed by good will, eventually it will turn into just what it is, paper.

Gold though, cannot be printed, it cannot be made by some alchemist, there is only so much of it and mostly, it's beautiful. Hold it in your hand, you will know what I mean.

True, you cannot create wealth with gold, but thats not what it is all about. Gold preserves value, no matter what the economic circumstances.

When times are uncertain, people turn to gold for security.

Whoever it was that changed peoples mind about gold being the best currency, set our country up to have our dollar first be devalued through the printing press, and then the peoples stored wealth be stolen by hidden taxes called inflation. It was the Republicans that did this. It's always the conservatives that trigger the bust cycles, because it's profitable for them to do this.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:59 PM
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16. Actually, it was Democrats who originally railed against gold
Edited on Mon Jan-16-06 11:01 PM by Art_from_Ark
First in the form of William Jennings Bryan, who made bimetalism the crux ("Cross of Gold") of his presidential campaigns, because he believed that cheaper silver coinage would benefit the average citizen. Then it was the Wilson administration, which started de-emphasizing gold (no US gold coins issued, 1917-1919) in the wake of European abandonment of the Gold Standard during World War I. Then there was FDR, who signed an order in 1934 essentially ending the Gold Standard in an effort to increase the money supply to provide relief from the Depression (by that time, the Gold Standard had been abandoned by nearly all European countries and Japan anyway). But it was Richard Nixon who put the final nail in the precious-metals-as-currency coffin in 1971, which helped precipitate the high inflation of the 1970s.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 02:33 PM
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11. Ohhh....it's due to Iran's nukes? And I thought maybe it had to do with
their oil bourse, and this move by the Feds:

What's the Fed Up To With the Money Supply?
by Robert McHugh


Over the past two days, December 21st - when our first Hindenburg Omen (of whatever cluster is coming) - and Thursday December 22nd, the Federal Reserve has conducted one of the largest two-day Repo injections of money into the system since back in September 2001. On Wednesday they added $18.0 billion in reserves and on Thursday they added another $20.0 billion. Is this a coincidence, coming right as we get another Hindenburg Omen? Probably not. Is something high-risk going on behind the scenes here? Let's review some facts at the Fed. On November 10th, 2005, shortly after appointing Bernanke to replace Greenbackspan, the Fed mysteriously announced with little comment and no palatable justification that they will hide M-3 effective March 2006. M-3 has been the main staple of money supply measurement and transparent disclosure since the Fed was founded back in 1913. It is the key monetary aggregate that includes Fed Repo transactions, that mechanism whereby the Fed increases reserves. The date when M-3 will start being hidden also happens to be the exact month that Iran will declare economic war against the U.S. Dollar by trading its oil in Petro-Euros on its new bourse. But there is more. The Federal Reserve currently has three vacancies within the 19 top Regional Bank and Board of Governor spots. Why? Part of ongoing wholesale resignations.

cont'd

http://www.safehaven.com/showarticle.cfm?id=4331&pv=1



From this article (excerpt):

The following is pure educated speculation: What if Iran goes through with its threat to sell oil for Euros instead of U.S. Dollars? Well, then Dollars won't help you much if you want to buy oil from Iran. So, you sell the Dollars you are holding for Euros. Whenever anything is sold en masse, its value drops. This means less demand for Dollars, which means the Fed will not be able to print excessive amounts of Dollars without further driving down the Dollar's value. There would simply be too much supply. Right now, the Fed can print all the Dollars they want because the demand for Dollars has been on the rise, especially as the cost of oil has risen. In other words, lately it has taken more Dollars to buy oil, so the demand for Dollars has been up. Again, this extra demand has allowed the Fed to print all it feels like with little consequent damage to the Dollar.

However, if the Dollar were to tank - and the Iran oil Bourse should push the Dollar in that direction - it puts pressure on Treasury Bonds and other U.S. financial assets to fall as well, since they are denominated in a declining-value currency. In this event, the Fed would have to step up its buying of U.S. financial assets to lend support to these asset prices - to stabilize U.S. markets. In other words, the Fed would have to monetize the U.S. Treasury's debt, and also monetize equity markets (be the buyer that keeps prices from falling). This would take so much fresh money that the Fed would need to create it in secret. Thus, they would have to announce that they are no longer going to transparently reveal the level of the money supply, but will hide it. The alternative is to punish Iran for - and make no mistake about this - effectively declaring economic war against the United States.

http://www.safehaven.com/article-4403.htm

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More on Iran's oil bourse:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CLA410A.html

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Iran+oil+bourse&btnG=Search
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jseankil Donating Member (604 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 03:54 PM
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13. If anything this would be reason for China to get on board with the U.S.
vs Iran. China can't afford the U.S. economy to tank as it would devistate their economy.
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 07:09 PM
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15. Well, thats spoken like a westerner
You see, not all cultures have immediate material values. I doubt the relevance of western intrusions into their affairs with forcing them to allow importing of opium and the 'trade tariffs forced on them by the British is forgotten. Nor will the marines marching in and seizing there emperor be forgotten. What's 200 years to a culture 2500 years old?

China is a very old culture. They were making silk, fighting the Japanese in Korea, holding off the mongol hordes when the Europeans were planting rye with sticks and worshiping trees.

We in the west tend to think others are just like us, think the same way. I think it was a mistake for Nixon, Kissinger and both Bu$hs to open trade with China. I wouldn't be surprised if the Chinese leaders look at our leaders as fools, for letting an enemy gain control economically over us, even using our own capital to build the factories to make it happen.

So what if they work their slaves and peasants for little more than food for 10 years just the get the paper to destroy us, I believe they would think it was worth it to eliminate a threat to their power in the world.
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belab13 Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 03:03 PM
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12. No Correction in sight.
I pulled some money out of my pm stocks expecting a correction in the New Year.. Boy was I wrong. I'm back in and expecting the mother of all Breakouts soon...


The approx $850/oz high experienced by gold in the 80s would be equal to a little more than $2000/oz in today's inflation adjusted dollars.
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 04:49 PM
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14. So from what I understand about gold...
is that it is a negative indicator of economic stability? The higher gold and silver rank, the greater instability in geopolitical events...?

Am I on cue with this understanding?

How did gold perform in the lead up to our current situation in Iraq?
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 02:08 AM
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17. Bought gold mutuals in summer of '02 -- Up over 150%
The only winner I've ever owned.
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