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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 06:15 PM
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AFP: Mass grave uncovered in Iraq (22 bodies)
Mass grave uncovered in Iraq

Wednesday 18 January 2006, 0:42 Makka Time, 21:42 GMT

A mass grave containing the bodies of 22 people believed to have been killed during a failed Shia uprising has been found near one of Iraq's holiest cities, security officials say.

...Meanwhile, violence across the country left at least 12 Iraqis dead.


http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/4566BC16-E2F1-4561-A1F2-CA66A5BDF78A.htm
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 06:30 PM
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1. I'm curious, but what number qualifies a burial place as a "mass grave"?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 06:32 PM
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2. When more then one body is buried
in the same grave around the same time.

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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 06:34 PM
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3. I don't know but they
really seem to be coming up short on the hundreds of thousands they say are out there. Does anyone know where the number came from originally?
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:36 PM
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13. Yeppers.
Edited on Tue Jan-17-06 11:42 PM by LynnTheDem
Wait and I'll go find my posts about it...

Why I seriously doubt the "Iraq mass graves" rhetoric:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3230394

26 bodies, and HRW calls it a "genocide"??? Where'd the other 99,974 go?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3788607

"tens of thousands of Shia conscripts were buried while still alive"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=103&topic_id=166077
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 06:34 PM
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4. That's what I'd like to know. The headline makes it sound like thousands.
After reading the accusations of "hundreds of thousands" in mass graves, I guess that's what most readers would imagine reading just the headline, which is all most readers do.

The fact that Aljazeera publishes these AP/AFP/Reuters propaganda headlines untouched convuinces me that it's just a Western-controlled propaganda tool.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:35 PM
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12. How many are in each of America's mass graves?
22 gee good thing we invaded, occupied and slaughtered 150,000 - 600,000 innocent men, women & kids!!!

...and do the 22 have US tank treads on their backs?

Just wondering.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 06:39 PM
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5. Only 22? - the Air Force has killed more at weddings. n/t
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 06:45 PM
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6. Probably the Americans who sneaked in to hide WMD and had
to silenced.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 06:57 PM
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9. Either that, or
they are uncovering the same grave over and over again. You know, like killing the number three guy in al Qaeda over and over again, or capturing the same city over and over again...

The War Pigs have to keep that war machine going, ya know.
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 06:47 PM
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7. I wonder how many of these they will find around New Orleans? n/t
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 06:50 PM
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8. "Iraqi Mass Graves In Perspective" (Media Monitors)
As put forth by regional analyst Sandra Mackay: "The rebels utilized their guns and numbers to seize the civilian operatives of the Baath government while former Shia conscripts turned on officers of the army. They hung their captives from rafters of an Islamic school, shot them in the head before walls turned into execution chambers, or simply slit their throats at the point of capture.' (The Reckoning: Iraq and the Legacy of Saddam Hussein, page 24)

Dilip Hiro, another Iraqi historian, documents atrocities in the holy city of Kerbala: "Insurgents had attacked the army headquarters and seized weapons? They decapitated or hanged 75 military officials, some of them Shia, and tortured many more." (Desert Shield To Desert Storm: The Second Gulf War, page 402)All said, several thousand policemen, clerks, military personnel and employees of the government were slain, according to Omar Ali, another regional authority. (See Crisis in the Arabian Gulf, page 147)

Meanwhile in northern Iraq, Kurdish separatists were gearing up for their own shot at the regime. As far back as 1961 ? seven years before Saddam Hussein came to power - they had been staging violent attacks on Iraq's central government, trying to leverage off a piece of the country to form their own fledgling state.Accepting Washington's pronouncements about a vanquished Iraqi military, up to 400,000 Kurds undertook a ferocious spree of mayhem that rivaled that of the Shia. According to Mackay, in Kirkuk "no one bothered to count how many servants of Baghdad were shot, beheaded, or cut to shreds with the traditional dagger stuck in the cummerbund of every Kurdish man. By the time Kurdish rage had exhausted itself, piles of corpses lay in the streets awaiting removal by bulldozers." (The Reckoning, page 26)

http://usa.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/433
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 07:00 PM
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10. where do they bury the tens of thousands of Iraqis we kill?
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:25 PM
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11. No doubt Halliburton's opened a mortuary business there
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 06:51 PM
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14. One of LynnTheDem's threads on mass graves:
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