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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:02 PM
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Yahoo Gave Search Data To Bush Administration Lawyers
http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=177102061

Yahoo acknowledges handing over search data requested in a subpoena from the Bush administration, which is hoping to use the information to revive an anti-porn law that was rejected by the U.S. Supreme Court.

By Antone Gonsalves
TechWeb News

Jan 19, 2006 03:03 PM

One of at least two major search engines subpoenaed by the Bush administration handed over search data in the government's efforts to revive an anti-porn law that was rejected by the U.S. Supreme Court.

Yahoo Inc., based in Sunnyvale, Calif., acknowledged on Thursday handing over search data, but insisted no personal information on users was given to government attorneys. The disclosure followed reports that rival search engine Google Inc. had refused to comply with a similar subpoena, issued last year.

The government had asked Google, based in Mountain View, Calif., for a broad amount of data, including a million random Web addresses and records of Google searches over any week, the Associated Press reported. The information came from U.S. Justice Department papers filed Wednesday in a San Jose, Calif., federal court.

A Yahoo spokeswoman said the company, which she described as a "rigorous" defender of user privacy, did not provide personal data in response to the Justice Department subpoena.

"In our opinion, this is not a privacy issue," spokeswoman Mary Osako said in an email. "We complied on a limited basis and did not provide any personally identifiable information."

. . . more
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:04 PM
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1. Yahoo has always sucked
My partner worships yahoo. Funny thing though, I'm the geek in this relationship & yahoo just disappeared from his computer Mmmmmmmm.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:07 PM
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2. And, I should believe yahoo???
PIG!
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Angry Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:29 PM
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3. Yahoo SUCKS! I quit using them YEARS ago.
They became nothing more than a money-grubbing corporation, asking for money in order to be listed in their directory and shoving as many ads in your face as they can. Now they also have some very intrusive privacy policies, including tracking your moves.

Not a privacy issue, my ass, Ms. Osako!
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:36 PM
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4. Which search engines are safe?
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:40 PM
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6. I'll bet none...
these *uckers need to be voted out of office YESTERDAY!
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 11:30 AM
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:00 PM
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13. .
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:39 PM
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5. But but but this is restricted to resurrecting the porn law.
Sure it is. And bush never wiretapped when he said he didn't. And Rumsfeld knows where the WMD are.

:sarcasm:
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 11:02 PM
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20. And the Patriot Act is only for terrorism.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 11:07 AM
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35. If we do nothing wrong we have nothing to worry about.
Right.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:40 PM
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7. this is an incredible privacy violation! We need to get pissed off!!!
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:41 PM
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8. I'm finished with yahoo
I really am. I was a yahoo games on demand subscriber, and had my.yahoo as my homepage. No more as of five minutes ago.

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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 08:04 AM
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28. Certainly this along with their use of "web beacons" to track
non-Yahoo web activity of users may be cause for some concern.

http://antivirus.about.com/od/spywareandadware/a/yahoobugs.htm
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Okiesoldier Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 09:03 AM
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29. Thanks Swag
I have had enuff of Yahoo and thanks for the link.
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:46 PM
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9. I stopped using search engines about 2 years ago
when I found out they take your IPS number. Sorry but if you want porn sites be prepared for government spying. After reading about police stings in chat rooms I saw the writing on the wall. About the only thing I use google or yahoo search for is travel information and weather updates.
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Blue_Forney05 Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 09:40 PM
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10. Search engine
What more do ya expect from a staunch Bush supporting company?
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 09:46 PM
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11. GhostSurf
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 09:58 PM
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12. If you trust the software. I know that good intentioned people buy
cloaking software to mask URL destinations, but what better way for the government to spy on people by providing a shell corporation that either gives away or sells cheap masking software. I am not saying that Ghost Surf has gov backdoors, but I don't know for a fact that it doesn't.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:04 PM
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15. That's a good point
Oh well, I guess we're screwed no matter what we do. :-(

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GaDemo Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 10:19 AM
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31. I got ghostsurf
And i like it.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:04 PM
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14. Okay, yahoos leaving as my home page.
I think the only thing the bush admin would have on me is this place.
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hopein08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:11 PM
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16. Doesn't Yahoo! use the Google search engine?
Or at least they used to. It doesn't seem to be that way now.

Anyway, the Yahoo spokeswoman who said they did not provide personal data seems to be a bit whacked. Isn't that excatly what the Justice Department would want? The personal data. It would seem to be silly for them to want to see only what was searched for.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:43 PM
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18. Not since Feb, 2004
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:25 PM
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17. Cheering google on.
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:45 PM
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19. watch Yahoo's stock price go down over this. No one wants a co like that
giving up his search info when he's no criminal.
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opusprime Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:59 PM
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38. Let their stock holders know....
http://finance.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?.mm=FN&action=l&board=4687319&tid=yhoo&sid=4687319&mid=636666

I dumped all of my Yahoo accounts this morning, and will cease all business we had with them.

Then I let their stock holders know that I was done using their site.

Contraversy is never good for a stock.

They are going to regret they ever did this.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 11:05 PM
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21. I just had a thought...
Didn't some Republican Party yahoo(no pun intended) take over the helm of Google??? Wouldn't this kind of publicity be helpful for Google??? Just sayin...:tinfoilhat:
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gimama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 02:19 AM
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22. google THIS!
Remember a few months back, You could google 'miserable failure'
..and the gwb WH page would come up?! I hope that comes out when all those searches are presented to the World!
I can tell You, I often cheer m'Self up by doing yahoo searches of 'IMPEACH BUSH & CHENEY', and there are 100's of 1,000's of sites!
Be interesting to see how much of THAT comes out because of a subpoena! ;}
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 07:39 AM
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25. I wonder if the story about Google's resistance isn't misinformation
Edited on Fri Jan-20-06 07:47 AM by Dover
and Google has already done the deed. Just before the Google story came out, some folks were asking if there hadn't been a 'scrubbing' recently due to a sudden disappearance of links or apparent reduction of options of Google search connections. Has anyone here had that experience lately?:

Check out this thread about this topic:

http://www.progressiveindependent.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=11781&mesg_id=11781
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 07:50 AM
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26. I think I remember some discussions here on that as well.
Off topic: Is that where Tinoire went???
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 07:56 AM
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27. Yep...that's her web site.
She was feeling a little cramped at DU...
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f-bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 02:21 AM
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23. Chickenshits
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 07:36 AM
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24. THIS is how they will control information flow.
If an issue that is a threat to the elites starts to spread on the internet, they will know by the numbers of key words in the searches and can nip it in the bud by scrubbing it before it spreads.
And of course they'll know who is searching what. This is a line we MUST draw or there will no longer be ANY means of communication that isn't controlled by the elite. This is PIVOTAL!
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 10:10 AM
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30. Consider yourself warned. View unedited real-time Web
http://www.dogpile.com/info.dogpl/searchspy/

Published on Monday, December 13, 2004 by CommonDreams.org
R.I.P. Gary Webb -- Unembedded Reporter
by Jeff Cohen

Gary Webb, a courageous investigative journalist who was the target
of one of the most ferocious media attacks on any reporter in recent
history, was found dead Friday after an apparent suicide.

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1213-31.htm

http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/print.cgi?file=/views04/1213-31.htm

Gary Webb Speaks: "Dark Alliance" Author Talks on CIA, Contras & the Narcotics Trade

I mean, what the hell is going on here?
To me, this is a natural story. The CIA is
involved in drug trafficking? Let's know about it.
Let's find out about it. Let's do something about it.

The other thing is, when George Bush pardoned --
remember those Christmas pardons that he handed out
when he was on his way out the door a few years ago?

So if you're interested in pursuing this, the thing I would
suggest you do is, call up the House Intelligence Committee
in Washington and ask them when we're going to have
another CIA/contra/crack hearing. Believe me, it'll drive
them crazy.

http://www.parascope.com/mx/articles/garywebb/garyWebbSpeaks.htm

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Gary+Webb%2Bsuicide%2BCIA%2Bcontra%2Bcrack%2BBush&btnG=Search

http://news.com.com/FAQ+What+does+the+Google+subpoena+mean/2100-1029_3-6029042.html
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 10:24 AM
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32. Fuck yahoo.
Time for some emails I suppose.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 10:33 AM
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33. if they DIDN'T provide ID info, WHY are the shrubbies interested in it??
oh, it's for anti-porn laws.

well, how does page hits alone help you? you need to correlate evil site page hits to people who later commit crimes. THEN you've got some interesting talking points for pursuing anti-porn legislation. but you need ID info for that.
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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 10:58 AM
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34. Delete yahoo cookies and web beacons
Yahoo and others make some of their money by selling information from cookies and web beacons to advertisers. As a protest, and to help protect our privacy, we should delete all cookies from the companies that secretly turned over customer data without seeking a court review.

Here is a link to delete the web beacons that yahoo uses.

Also, take a look at your internet security settings for cookies. It is particularly important to block third party cookies. Most people allow session cookies that are not retained.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:26 PM
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39. no link in your message, unfortunately.
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 11:09 AM
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36. yahoo not bright enough to see it?
hmmm maybe the govmt is working with microsquish to eleminate google?

an google knows it
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madmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 04:33 PM
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40. nice privacy rollover aholes; another reason to only use google
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Wise Doubter Donating Member (458 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 04:45 PM
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41. Beware of AOL too !
AOL logs EVERYTHING on their network...EVERYTHING !
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smb Donating Member (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 04:45 PM
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42. What The Hell Are They Thinking?
Having this story pop up in the middle of the Patriot Act and warrantless wiretapping fights is such an obvious fiasco that even a Bushevik can see the handwriting on the wall. Hell, even the FReepers are (mostly) tearing their hero a new one over this.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 05:04 PM
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43. glad I don't use yahoo or aol
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 05:20 PM
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44. This is TERRIBLE!!! yahoo turns in its customers data
awful... why not hand them all of our emails...
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 10:08 PM
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45. I am done, done, done, done with Yahoo. I hope this spreads.
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