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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:03 PM
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Tory tax plan ultimately favours well off: experts (Canada election)
Tory tax plan ultimately favours well off: experts
Well-heeled Canadians will enjoy majority of benefits
Thursday, January 19, 2006

OTTAWA (CP) -- Stephen Harper's Conservatives are promising tax breaks if they're elected Monday, but just how much you'll get depends on how much you've already got.

Well-heeled Canadians, rather than low-income families, will enjoy the majority of the benefits from new tax measures promised by the front-running Conservatives, some analysts say.

Middle-income earners can also count on a few extra bucks, especially if they've got young children running around the house under the care of a stay-at-home mom.

But not a lot of cash will trickle down to poorer families.

That's because the Tory tax-cut plans aren't income sensitive, instead offering the same breaks to rich and poor alike -- which means in many cases higher-income earners will fare the best.

http://www.canada.com/globaltv/national/story.html?id=cb5df857-8649-41d0-bd73-d1916908b9b7

Sound familiar? :think:
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:05 PM
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1. P.S. PLEASE CLICK ON THE LINK...I *think* that rates it up on GOOGLE.
Sorry if you thought there was text in here. :)
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:09 PM
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2. Harper is real creepy looking
he's a neocon, I hope the Canadians make the right choice
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:21 PM
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5. Yes he is creepy looking. And he's had a weird smile lately.
If people want to see him they can click the link in the topic post! :)
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:38 PM
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11. Harper has either been doing yoga, is on paxil, is getting excessive
bj, is on a diet of ginsing, has a guru, took up meditation, is eating bear gall bladder by the bushel, has been promised a retirement package from Carlisle of $1Billion dollars or something.

He had a personality change at the age of 46.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:13 PM
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3. What a surprise!
Surely the experts must be wrong. I just can't believe this. I'm stunned. Etc.
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:19 PM
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4. Oh yes, they MUST be wrong. They must be "Liberal"
Edited on Thu Jan-19-06 10:21 PM by Harper_is_Bush
It's incredible how similar this Conservative election has been in terms of rightwing behaviour and accusation (unchallanged by the media) to the US election.
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:36 PM
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9. To Use
A term that was used before in a less chaos producing time I would define it as "Bush's Sorcer Apprentice".

So Americans better watch out.
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:22 PM
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6. That's no different than the BC "Liberal" tax cuts by Campbell
Working class wound up with a extra few dollars on the pay check proportionate to how much you made. 40,000 yr earners saw approx $18 every 2 weeks. Then to pay for the cuts, he increased all kinds of fees like doubling the monthly BC Medical premium and stopped paying for many medical services that used to be covered. The rich guys wound up with huge tax breaks but the increased fees and medical costs didn't affect them at all. We on the other hand wound paying far more money in sneaky fee increases and in social problems due to his other heartless cuts than the few dollars we got out of the deal. I couldn't believe it when there were enough fools in this province that voted him back in again.

This is precisely how Harper would fund his tax cuts too. On the backs of the poor and working class. I mean does anyone really think that a 1% cut of the GST is going to make a difference to a low income or middle wage earner? Its only going to do anything for the corps and richies.
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:40 PM
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13. So
Expect a reduction in the GST rebate.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:25 PM
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7. It's all ies I tell ya .......LIES! Where have I seen this shit before?nt
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:35 PM
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8. Yup. They have to slip in the truth somewhere so they can go
like gang-busters if they get a majority and attack all Liberals in positions of power. Same as when Repukes say "well darned if I didn't say I would get rid of activist judges - so shut up".

Canadians should be reading the subtext.

I think they are beginning to. Harper announced he would not be in absolute power with a majority because of all the generations of public servants and judges in place. Shows us where he truly is on the scale. Not representative of anything that has come before.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:38 PM
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10. I'll be damned if I have to pay for tax breaks....
Edited on Thu Jan-19-06 10:42 PM by Darth_Kitten
so some Conservative guy making 100,000 a year who never sees his kids gets money that he and his spouse don't NEED. :eyes:

This really ticks me off. But of course, it's business as usual. :eyes:
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:39 PM
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12. coming from a guy who says, "don't worry, I'll be held in check"
Or words to that effect. This should reassure me? I don't think so!
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 11:20 PM
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14. May be too late. Apparently 25% of voters have already voted.
Though I'm sure some of them voted how they usually do (seniors and those used to advanced polling) - with the vast rise in people pre-voting - that Conservative "bump" may be locked in.

Not looking forward to it.

Not at all.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 11:59 PM
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16. Not 25% of all voters; a 25% rise in advance polling
Toronto Star:

Voter turnout at advance polling stations jumped by 25 per cent this election compared with the last federal campaign, Elections Canada has announced.

Preliminary figures show that more than 1.56 million voted in advance polls between Friday and Monday, a significant increase over the 1.25 million who cast early ballots 19 months ago.

"An increase like this reflects the efforts we made to inform Canadians about advanced polling," said Serge Fleyfel of Elections Canada. "We did a lot of advertising to inform voters about all the avenues of voting. We do everything we can to increase participation."

Advance voting increased in all provinces and territories.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:03 AM
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17. Thanks. I scanned the article and then had to look away I was so
:scared:

I feel much better now.

:yoiks:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 02:06 AM
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18. Saw Harper's long interview with CBC. He admitted he would stop
Kyoto and instead turn to an at home policy. Claims even Blair admits it cannot work if the big economies do not sign on.

So - that will be Harper's plans. To scuttle any international treaty or standards - instead return to the neocon preferred model of every country coming to decisions themselves. No international standards for anything.

Kyoto is first. Next it will be the ICC and all other agreements.

Instead of building a world and leading by example - and encouraging the poor countries to fight ecological devastation, or torture or genocide as part of a world body ... it will be do as you please.

What a nightmare.

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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 11:49 PM
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15. ALL rightwingnuts are the same, be they Torries, be they repubs...
CRAP by any other name is still SHIT.
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