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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 10:42 AM
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LAT: S.F.? Let's Not Go There, Highland Says (CA town boycotts city)
S.F.? Let's Not Go There, Highland Says
In a show of support for the military, officials halt travel to the Bay Area city, which voted to oppose Pentagon recruiting in its schools.

By Ashley Powers, Times Staff Writer


The Highland City Council can't top Bill O'Reilly as San Francisco's chief heckler, but council members have issued their own scolding to the Northern California city for approving a measure that opposed military recruiting in public schools.

In a spat that pits the Southland town against the Bay Area metropolis, Highland officials will refrain from spending any money to send city employees to seminars, workshops or conferences in San Francisco, saying the move demonstrates their support for the military.

"We ought to quit giving them revenues to spend on tomfoolery," said Ross Jones, mayor of the city of 50,000 near San Bernardino.

Last fall, three Highland council members and the city manager attended a League of California Cities conference there — spending about $4,900 — but officials had not scheduled any return trips when they unanimously passed the resolution last week.

The rebuke caused little concern up north....


http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-highland20jan20,0,964650.story?coll=la-home-headlines
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 10:48 AM
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1. I'm sure the powers that be in San Fran are so worried about this
morans
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 10:50 AM
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2. That takes a lot of nerve
Highland has no self-sustaining industry. It's just a bedroom community with gates and it sucks Los Angeles' tailpipe. I'm sure all those libruls in the Bay Area are quaking in their birkenstocks. :eyes:
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 10:53 AM
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3. $4,900 ?!?11
Why that's almost $5000! If this keeps up, the whole city will shut down!
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 03:01 PM
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24. yeah, that's a lot of money for a league of cities conference
4 people, 4900 bucks? where were they staying, the Plaza?
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 10:55 AM
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4. $4,900 dollars.
That's it. That's all that Highland spends in SF? And that's supposed to be a "major loss"? :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
Let the rednecks stay in Highland. SF will get along just fine without them.
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Athame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 10:59 AM
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5. So, say there's an earthquake preparation and training in SF?
Highland would not send its first responders because San Francisco won't allow the military to recruit in its schools? :shrug:
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droidamus Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 11:11 AM
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6. Northern California Opinion
I grew up in Northern California (300 miles north of SF) as far as we were concerned we be happy that Southern Californians stay in their end of the state. Thanks Highlands we appreciate you staying away!!!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 11:35 AM
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11. Welcome to DU, driodamus!
:hi:
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 11:46 AM
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13. Seriously.
Screw building a wall south of San Diego. Build one south of Monterey!

:hide:
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:20 PM
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17. I love the obsession No Cal has for the South
It never ceases to amaze me that comments like this ALWAYS come up when there is any slight mention of So. Cal up there. My Mom went to church up there while on a visit to my brother and she got the 'oh, I'm sorry you're from L.A. from the priest!'. Do you not know of anything else to say when you meet people?? Guess you folks don't have much else to obsess over other than a rivalry with folks who don't even know it exists.


And we're supposed to the fake, shallow folks down here? :rofl:
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:24 PM
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19. the north-south argument in CA is all about water
It is not an obsession. Those of us who were born here are more aware of this issue which is aways in back of much of our politics. The south has the people, the north has the water.

Suggested reading: Cadillac Desert.
Suggested viewing: Chinatown.
Come back and discuss later.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 02:04 PM
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22. I've heard the water argument and I know all about it
However, when comments are made I am referring to it has nothing to do with water and you know it. I'm a bit more street smart than that to not know the digs I am referring to go way beyond a battle of water.

Sorry, but the comments of which I speak wreak of arrogance that goes far beyond water supplies in the state.

I'll just hop on THE I-5 and go visit Frisco one day when I feel the need to experience it again first hand. :evilgrin:
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CAcyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 05:08 PM
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25. Um, except ___ I-5 doesn't go to SF
You're thinking of ___101.

As someone who was born in LA and went to undergrad in LA, but who now lives in the Bay area, I'd take this place over that place any day. Why do you worry so much about what other people think of you?
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:17 AM
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33. Um... I've driven THE 5 up there and was able to change freeways
to end up in Frisco. There's more than one way to get there you know.

I don't care what people think of me. I just think snobs are the lowest level of humanity and have no use for them. That's just part of my liberal/Democratic beliefs in that one group of people shouldn't judge others on where the live, their class, etc.. That's why I detest Republicans too.




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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 07:51 PM
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32. Excuse me??
Um, nooo, CENTRAL CALIFORNIA has the water and I'm SOOO looking forward to the restoration of Hetch Hetchy.
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LiberalGuy000 Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:52 PM
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20. agreed
L.A. and San Francisco have so much in common. The differences are minor. The bigger differences are between the coastal areas and the inland regions.

L.A., San Francisco, and San Diego have much more in common than, say, San Francisco and Stockton, or L.A. and Bakersfield.

It's a silly fight leftover in the minds who have lived here for decades. Those of us who have been here for less than 10 years don't see it.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 02:07 PM
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23. It shouldn't exist in the first place.
There's plenty both sides contribute to this great state and all of them should be acknowledged. To keep up this sibling rivalry mentality is soooooooo tired.


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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 07:50 PM
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31. It's even better when you tell
a Bay Area resident you're from Fresno. I never get that kind of crap from Southern California residents.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:18 AM
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34. I can't even imagine.
We really don't care down here about where you're from. Who cares? I really don't get that attitude. :shrug:
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StaggerLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 11:14 AM
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7. They'd do better by enlisting
I hear the Army has raised the enlistment age to 40.


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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 11:52 AM
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15. Two of the five pictures of their City Council look to be under 40.
If I call and ask how many recruitment offices are in Highland, will they be able to tell me?

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parkia00 Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 11:20 AM
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8. I completely agree with this!
We don't want their kind up here anyways. It's good they are limiting their contact with other human beings. Bravo!

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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 11:22 AM
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9. Here in San Francisco we want to extend a buffer to urban schoolkids...
Edited on Fri Jan-20-06 11:31 AM by Dunvegan
...like the wealthy communities maintain.

In our urban Mission District, which is largely Hispanic, there were recruiters on a high school (not college) campus booming hard-core street music and displaying a totally tricked-out low-rider car that must have cost as much as a small bomber...all designed to suck in kids to hustle into uniform.

And, it worked. Kids were thronged around that vehicle.

Reminds me a little bit of the Gubment playing at being Iceberg Slim...trolling and pandering for child soldiers with a "pimp ride."

The military is not at all above preying on poorer high schools for cannon fodder.

The kids know where the recruiter's office is...San Francisco is only 7.2 by 7.2 miles, and concentrated in the north and center of that. Not to mention all the sponsorships of free music and video games to download from the militarist's kid-oriented web sites. And there are endless youth events with which the recruiters blanket the sub-college aged students.

You can bet your (child's) life that the recruiters know to shy away from Marin County, Blackhawk, and other wealthy enclaves in the Bay Area.

The military recruiters were not either playing fair or expressing a policy that pertained to all schools...just the urban and minority-majority schools. They would bring in the shiny toys that were transparently appealing to the cultural and ethnic demographic of inner-city high schools to draw the kids to the recruiters, and then sell the hell out of them.

The San Francisco voter's stance is just a little too nuanced for hickory-nut headed kool-ade bloated wingnuts to see, even if we taped their eyelids open and took them on a tour of how it was...which was a tragi-comic farce of inequality and propaganda to snare the poorest of children into a trap of lies and pretty pictures that was painted just to make them the new under-trained front line fodder.

We're very comfortable in doing the right thing whenever we can here in San Francisco, and national opinion be damned. Keep your pocket change, Highland City. We're an international destination...the Paris of the West (Yes, Paris, France.)

We'll make up that money four-fold from people that want to visit the US but don't want to visit or do business in any city that is a neocon pig farm. Or from the infusion of incredible fair journos coming to work with Al Gore's new television/podcasting network, Current TV. Or our new biotech and stem cell research centers. Or our local tech industry base.

Stay home Highland Park. Miss the best most progressive major city in America poised on the Pacific Rim.

Your loss. Our gain.

Now, pass me that warm fresh sourdough....

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 11:32 AM
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10. Hey, that's"Paris of the Pacific"
:)

Where the heck is Highland? I never heard of it!

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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 05:21 PM
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26. IIRC
Highland is where Beavis and Butthead live.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 07:25 PM
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29. Welcome to DU, Lance.
:hi:
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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:10 PM
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35. Thanks, neighbor...
..."Paris of the Pacific" is the correct phraseology. :hi:
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 11:44 AM
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12. Ross Jones, Gail E. Neira, Bill Postmus, Larry McCallon we see you

and will remember.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 11:48 AM
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14. Ross is a Republican. What a surprise.
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Autobot77 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 03:51 AM
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36. Did he buy his rug at the same place Trent Lott did? eom

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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:13 PM
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16. I'll go there!
Edited on Fri Jan-20-06 12:15 PM by CountAllVotes
I left my heart in San Francisco .... and I do mean that! :D

:kick: :kick: :kick:
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:07 PM
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18. These losers just wanted some attention.
Pathetic.
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pennylane100 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:59 PM
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21. Well the next time the hills above them catch on fire
like they did when my daughter lived there a few years ago, do you think they will make sure that there is no relief money or fire crews from San Francisco. I doubt it.
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 05:43 PM
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27. This area is growing pretty quickly
I have a feeling that if you give us 10 years or so, we will be rather blue. But that's still quite a bit of time. Maybe I'll just move to San Francisco... =\
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 05:55 PM
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28. Very well, then, let's all boycott Highland!
I guess we'll just have to go someplace else to get our... um... er... wait a minute... uh, just what is it one gets in Highland in the first place? :eyes:
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 07:44 PM
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30. $4900 should just scare SF to little pieces
Yikes that hurt :rofl:
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