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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:25 PM
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Abortion foes say noise law is illegal
http://www.cleveland.com/ohio/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/113783609856220.xml&coll=2

Cleveland ordinance hindering protests

Saturday, January 21, 2006

Cincinnati -

Two activists, Hugh Gaughan and Thomas Raddell, have asked a federal appeals court in Cincinnati to strike down the noise-pollution ordinance as a violation of the First Amendment right to free speech.

Gaughan and Raddell's challenge contends that Cleveland used the law to block their efforts to play recordings of a 9-1-1 emergency call about a woman injured in an abortion...

It says "No person shall play any radio, music player, television, audio system or musical instrument in such a manner or at such volume as to annoy or disturb the quiet, comfort or repose of neighboring inhabitants . . ." ...

Former Cleveland Councilman Bill Patmon, the law's sponsor, said it goes back to a spring when he remembers neighborhoods quaking "in noise pollution from loud music. Music was shaking dishes in people's kitchen cabinets. You had boomboxes, sub-woofers, radios blasting."...
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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:29 PM
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1. Meanwhile we lefties are still kept in "Free Speech Zones"
Whenever we protest Bush. Welcome to a Republican America. These anti choice nuts should just "get over it."


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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:54 PM
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9. ooh! Great image!
I want that on a tshirt. Think you can get the eyes to keep moving?
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 10:15 PM
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11. Or the jaw.
:)
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:29 PM
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2. Ummm... are they aware this tactic can be used against them, too?
Edited on Sat Jan-21-06 12:45 PM by Zenlitened
Outside their homes, perhaps?

Or, if they are church-based, outside on a pleasant Sunday morning?

(I'd suggest the audiobook version of 'The Demon-Haunted World.')



:shrug:
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:41 PM
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7. yes, bagpipes and accordians
on a fine Sunday morning outside their churches, alternately playing highland tunes and beerhall songs, all slightly out of tune. Amplified, if necessary. That ought to make their day.

evil music geek mode /off:evilgrin:
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azureblue Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:28 PM
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12. add three fifes
for a bit of cognitive dissonance. oh yeah, the trombone player needs a gig, add him in, too.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:30 PM
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13. and bongo drummer, in dread locks. n/t
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f-bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:30 PM
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3. The Anti-Abortion Nazi's are at it again!
Typical bullshit to evade the issue of their trying to impose their will on everybody else!
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:33 PM
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4. The ordinance obviously had "christian lunatics" in mind
It specifically states it wants to prevent people from annoying or disturbing their neighbors. I can not think of any group more annoying or disturbing than those who loudly want to destroy our constitution in the name of Jesus Christ and in a tax exempt status.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:35 PM
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5. laws are not twist-ties...
...they are not meant to be contorted to fit some religious extremeists' means. If we had any separation of church and state anymore in this country, this is what these nutcases would be told.

How many 9-1-1 calls are there or deaths are there from botched illegal abortions before safe, legal ones were allowed?

These people have their heads and their "morality" screwed on bassackwards and they need to be sent home and told to stop trying to shove THEIR version of "morality" down everyone else's throats - unless they LIKE the Taliban and want to be just like them.



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Rufus T. Firefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:40 PM
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6. Obviously the law was meant for black people.
Edited on Sat Jan-21-06 12:41 PM by Rufus T. Firefly
So since they're lily white (just a wild guess here), it shouldn't apply to them.

I say follow the protesters home and play a loud radio, since it's your first amendment right. And scream at them when they're shopping.

"DON'T BUY VEGETABLES! THEY WERE ONCE ALIVE! PLANT MURDERER!"


Besides, I thought a benefit of a protest was getting arrested and getting more attention for your cause.

"They say they haven't done so for over a year because they fear arrest and prosecution."

Fair-weather anti-abortion folks.

I'd be proud to be arrested at a protest, myself. If you REALLY think a law is unjust, then you get arrested under it, then get to appeal and get it thrown out. But they're not thinking of what's best for the country, or thinking long-term. They just want to be "cute" with their recording.

Can we play 9-1-1 tapes of people having heart attacks at church, to show how dangerous it is?
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:51 PM
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8. I guess that means no more singing "every sperm is sacred" while
Edited on Sat Jan-21-06 12:52 PM by niyad
the anti's are busy feverishly praying their rosaries?

DARN--and we were having so much fun!!!

guess that means the "Isis, Astarte" chant is out, too.
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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 02:36 PM
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10. Shouting "fire" in a crowded theater is not covered by the 'First
and neither is this.
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