TIME: When George Met Jack

[PhilipShore]

TIME
When George Met Jack
By Adam Zagorin and Mike Allen
Jan. 22, 2006

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1151747,00.html

White House aides deny the President knew lobbyist Abramoff, but unpublished photos shown to TIME suggest there's more to the story

As details poured out about the illegal and unseemly activities of Republican lobbyist Jack Abramoff, White House officials sought to portray the scandal as a Capitol Hill affair with little relevance to them. Peppered for days with questions about Abramoff's visits to the White House, press secretary Scott McClellan said the now disgraced lobbyist had attended two huge holiday receptions and a few "staff-level meetings" that were not worth describing further. "The President does not know him, nor does the President recall ever meeting him," McClellan said.

The President's memory may soon be unhappily refreshed. TIME has seen five photographs of Abramoff and the President that suggest a level of contact between them that Bush's aides have downplayed.

[Cobalt Violet]

1. Do you think these photos will ever be published?

If it were Clinton they would have been all over the place by now.

[MissWaverly]

43. I think someone is looking for the right price

that's why two journals say that they have "seen" them but are not going to publish.

[MADem]

64. I have been saying for some time that the evidence is in the WH

photographers' office. Those pics are dated, serialized, and placed in a queue, annually. They are also archived. They are NOT the property of the Dunce, or even the photographer who took them (though he or she is credited as the 'artist' usually), they are the property of US CHICKENS--the people of the United States, the TAXPAYERS. That's OUR national photo album, in all its' dysfunctional glory....

I think the reason they have been "seen" and not published is because someone with access to the images made extras on the side (either they were in the shot, took the shot, or had a pal in the shot) and they have not yet been FOIA'd.

All ya need are the dates! If you actually have the serial number, it's a five minute search.....

[MissWaverly]

67. My best guess is that those have been destroyed by now

the ones that Time described had an autograph from Bush which I surmise means that it was probably one of Abramoff's personal copies.

[MADem]

101. They'd have a problem with the sequence if that were the case

There would be gaps in the records, like a dog that didn't bark. They would have to re-serialize every photo, thousands of them, that happened after the incriminating shot. If photos were taken in different years, they'd have to re-sequence those, too. It would be tough to pull off without anyone knowing about it.

I am guessing the autographed one might also have come from that Indian tribal leader who is in hot water....but only time will tell.

[MissWaverly]

103. Remember Rosemary Woods & the 18 minute gap

on the Watergate tapes, they tried to say it was her error, she was Nixon's personal
secretary.

[MADem]

104. Well, no one believed that for a minute

Especially when they had her 'demonstrate' how it might have happened. The picture of that poor old dame reaching for the phone with her foot out like a prima ballerina was absurd in the extreme.



The real problem would be if photos went missing ON THE DAYS IN QUESTION. And I think that a lot of the career civil servant types who are responsible for archiving our nation's history wouldn't take too kindly to this sort of thing at all. We are not talking about one loyal secretary, we are talking about a host of people with responsibility for these image files. I am not saying it could not be done, but they would have to hush up a boatload of people, from all walks of life and of varied political persuasion. And even at that, there's no guarantee that they'd get all of them. Too risky, IMO....

[MissWaverly]

106. well, since you're in a skeptical mood how about this one

Library Missing Roberts File
Papers Lost After Lawyers' Review
By R. Jeffrey Smith and Jo BeckerWashington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, August 17, 2005

A file folder containing papers from Supreme Court nominee John G. Roberts Jr.'s work on affirmative action more than 20 years ago disappeared from the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library after its review by two lawyers from the White House and the Justice Department in July, according to officials at the library and the National Archives and Records Administration.

Upon the lawyers' arrival, Archives officials said, they asked to inspect various folders, and as they were pulled from the boxes, a marker was inserted in their place and the lawyers signed a checkout sheet. An attendant present in the room at all times did not, as a matter of routine, sign a form signifying the return of each folder

I removed the link because it has my account info.

[MADem]

109. I'll bet anything those files are not missing, they are hidden

When the files are held at the library of a GOP president, you know there was collusion there. Some lackey at the library took orders and made sure they were stuffed behind the file cabinet until the coast was clear. Here's a link to your story, FWIW, if anyone is interested: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/16/AR2005081601457_pf.html

...Nonetheless, Fawcett said, "we are quite confident that the records were returned to us." Asked why, she said that while the attendant does not recall seeing the affirmative action file in question put back, the marker was not in the box after the lawyers departed. "It would have been very difficult, given the circumstances in the room," for the lawyers to have retained the file because they were separated from their bags, she said.

Instead, the folder was evidently lost later when all of the Roberts documents were transferred to new, acid-free folders and reorganized in anticipation of their disclosure to the Senate and news media.

It is "very difficult to believe it's anyone other than ourselves responsible for this loss," Fawcett said....

Look, I am not saying it couldn't happen, all I am saying is that if it does happen, it will be noticed. The best bet for the WH is to stonewall and distract--if they try to lose the pictures, it will stick out like a sore thumb. Especially since there are copies "out there" already. And people are eager for these pictures, so there might be a bit more interest in them than there was for words on paper from a guy who was slavishly and devotedly working for a President with a clear agenda. What was it Confucius said about a picture being worth a thousand words?

[MissWaverly]

113. I hope you notice that the last 2 that saw the files were 2

white house lawyers, he can always count on his legal counsel in time of need to help
help him walk the straight and narrow.



thanks for posting the link.

[superconnected]

110. That dress is absurd.

It's just bad, bad bad. Bad design, bad colors, bad look for her.

[MADem]

111. Apparently it was what the well-turned out GOP grand dame wore

back in the day....kinda Laugh-In in the color scheme. But then, back then, psychadellic colors and Peter Max posters were still the rage.....



And hey, Laugh In helped Nixon ("sock it to me, bay-bee!") get elected....

[5thGenDemocrat]

112. Well, not quite "no one"

My mom, 4thGenDem, was a legal secretary for many years. While she held to the opinion (as did oh-so-many Americans) that Nixon was a crook and a liar, she also said it was entirely possible to do exactly what Rose Mary Woods said happened to the tape. In fact, she admitted to having blipped one or two in her time.
Doesn't mean she necessarily bought the story -- only that, IHHO, it could've happened just the way Woods said it did.
John
Mom had an "Executive Deleted" sweatshirt she wore on weekends for years (I was always trying to talk her into giving it to me). She couldn't stand Nixon -- but she DID empathize with Woods.

[davidwparker]

74. Better publish them or they'll be suicided.

[The Backlash Cometh]

77. I think the delay is an attempt to stick the oily buggers.

Think about it. If the photos came out first, the White House spin would have gone another way. They're oily buggers that way. Instead, they were so sure they were going to control the release of the photos that they painted themselves in a corner when they said they didn't know him.

Now the Times has evidence that the White House lies easily AND they have proof that Bush is friends with Abramoff.

[sarora]

90. If they're WH, aren't they public?

If they're WH, aren't they public?

[rodeodance]

2. "The President's memory may soon be unhappily refreshed." te he

[struggle4progress]

62. Or not. What with the alcohol-damaged brain and all.

Bush doesn't remember Abramoff meetings though photos were taken with convicted lobbyist

... Abramoff met a few times with White House staff and attended Hanukkah receptions in 2001 and 2002, the White House has said, but officials there have refused to disclose how many times he's been into the complex or what business he had there.

The White House also has not released any photos featuring the president and Abramoff, who was declared a Bush "pioneer" for raising at least $100,000 for the Bush-Cheney '04 re-election campaign ...

http://www.kristv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4394536&nav=Bsmh

[rodeodance]

3. oh THis is so sweet!!----TIME has seen five photographs

[Maeve]

4. Bring 'em out!

:popcorn:

[Imagevision]

60. What good is it if they're not being published??!!

[WePurrsevere]

5. So just PUBLISH them already... this is just plain silly... if a news

source has them and says they have them what the heck are they waiting for, BushCo to threaten them into silence or get a "gag" ruling they can play out for a while as they have with the new torture pictures?

Come on "news" media... grow some big old fashioned brassy ones and PUBLISH the darn pictures!


edited to fix a bad typo

[DoYouEverWonder]

7. They're probably afraid

of getting anthraxed.

[Punkingal]

9. They don't have them....

Whoever has them is trying to sell them. They are being shopped around.

[WePurrsevere]

12. Then I would highly suggest to whomever actually HAS them...

to sell them FAST before the pictures or the person mysteriously disappear.

[Punkingal]

45. I know....

Perhaps this is one time we should be thankful for good old-fashioned greed...someone knew these pictures would be worth some money! I just hope they aren't offed before someone buys them.

[pokercat999]

97. Anyone got Larry Flint's phone number?

[wordpix2]

87. at some point, the photos will be sold, tho, & * will be part of scandal

[PhilipShore]

16. Scenario--Fitz has the George Met Jack photos

[WePurrsevere]

71. That has some interesting potential. :-D n/t

[Lefty48197]

17. Sorry, the "news media" you speak of is dead and gone.

They are all tools of the Republican party. Don't expect them to cover stories critical of Bush.

[MrPrax]

21. Right Said...

Well said...I was reading the same article and wondering the same thing. In fact, I was wondering also that if Time is not using them for 'revenue' generating purposes?

These guys are suppose to be the free press, but they admit to suppressing a key piece of evidence in a much more serious political debate?

What are they doing? like you said, waiting for Gonzales, to gag them I presume. Time is really rock-bottom.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

54. How about if TIME publishes the pics as part of a much larger article....

...about the connections between Abramoff and the NeoCons? Will that make you happy?

[WePurrsevere]

69. Happy? Heck I'd be Orgamasmic...

but I won't hold my breath while I wait if that's okay? ;)

[MADem]

65. They are waiting for MEET THE PRESS to air

...and hoping these shots will be lost in next week's wash of dead miners, kidnapped journalists, terra/terra/terra Ole Samma tapes, and the entertainment scandal du jour....

[WePurrsevere]

70. Par for the course but I truly hope not. In my wildest political fantasies

this is a bit of a HUGE puzzle that once put together will take down BushCo as well as the Neo-Cons for decades if not centuries to come.

[sabra]

6. Probably the same 5 the Washingtonian has seen

http://www.washingtonian.com/capital_comment/2006/PowerPlayers/02.html

[lumpy]

8. Description of the pictures appear

in the Time article. Bush shaking hands with Abramoff, with Abramhoff's children etc. Looks like more than casual acquaintance since Abramhoff was a big Bush contributer, attended staff level meetings.
"The president does not know him, nor does the president recall ever meeting him." McClellen said in press conference. If Bush doesn't recall Abramoff, he is denying the truth or is sorely incompetent.

[hobbit709]

40. Wasn't there someone else who said

"I don't know him"?

[wordpix2]

88. a photo with Jackoff's kids? You don't tend to meet the fam unless

you are quite familiar with the people you do biz with.

[Dunvegan]

10. Really...that is odd...

...for a news outlet to say they've "seen" the photos, but not publish them?

Isn't Time (ostensibly) supposed to be in the "news publishing" business?

Why the tease?

Why not roll with the blockbuster images?

Many Americans don't believe anything that isn't attached to a simple image...here's the photos we've all been waiting for that takes Abramoff to the very top...and Time refuses to slap Jack and Bush on the cover?

Something's awry.

I hear a muffled choking coming from Time, Inc...and it sounds like a self-imposed waterboard gagging.

When is someone going to throw back the curtain on these imperial lunatics?

Will someone please leak these crime scene photos and just blast them to the 'net?

[Demit]

15. What Punkingal in post #9 says makes sense

If Time was told they had to pay for use, maybe that's why they balked. Or they balked at the price. They could've said, though. Maybe they're stretching this out, to get more mileage out of the story.

[spooked]

31. Yup, National Enquier is not above paying for photos

Maybe we'll see them there!

[Cooley Hurd]

11. TIME's spin:

From the same article:

<snip>
Most of the pictures have the formal look of photos taken at presidential receptions. The images of Bush, Abramoff and one of his sons appear to be the rapid-fire shots—known in White House parlance as clicks—that the President snaps with top supporters before taking the podium at fund-raising receptions. Over five years, Bush has posed for tens of thousands of such shots—many with people he does not know. Last month 9,500 people attended holiday receptions at the White House, and most went two by two through a line for a photo with the President and the First Lady. The White House is generous about providing copies—in some cases, signed by the President—that become centerpieces for "walls of fame" throughout status-conscious Washington.
</snip>

See? The pics prove nothing...:sarcasm: Then, why did Puffy McMoonface go to great lengths DENYING Bush knew Jackamoff???:grr:

[lumpy]

14. Looks like some of those pictures

leaked out before being 'stashed or slashed by the White House. Bush might have nade a big mistake by denying he 'knows Abramhoff'. The truth lays out there, Abramoff and plenty more people know the extent of their relationahip. The question is, did Abramhoff buy 'influence' from Bush by 'talking money?

[wordpix2]

89. of course Jackoff bought influence-he brought in clients to meet Bush

I belive the president of an African nation and others

[MADem]

66. Grip-n-grins

Everyone in the frame got one. Some, likely, signed. Ya can't get rid of all of them. And guess what? That's destruction of government property if you 'disappear' the ORIGINAL image.

A small charge, but hey, pile it on!

[eleny]

13. The old ploy - "Ken who?"

So now it's "Jack who?" Yeah right, in a pig's ass.

[Thor_MN]

28. Nope, for *, it's "I don't know Jack"

Shit or Abramoff, take your pick. One is true and the other he wishes were true.

[Lefty48197]

18. Richard Mellon-Scaife will pay fifty million bucks for the photos

and they'll never be seen again.

[drm604]

50. That's what I'm afraid of.

But they do seem to be shopping them around to media outlets, so hopefully that's who they want to sell them to. If they wanted to sell them to someone like Scaife, they'd be contacting him quietly rather than showing them to Time, The Washingtonian, etc. It looks like they're looking for the highest bidder among media outlets. You'd think that Time would pay the price. Maybe, as someone suggested, they are just stretching it out for increased publicity and sales.

[Ouabache]

63. yep, you beat me to it

what is to keep one of Abramoff's own slush funds from coming up with this PAYOFF.

[Joanne98]

19. They should wait until after the SOTU. The day after!

So they can't their message out.

[UpInArms]

20. illegal and unseemly activities of Republican lobbyist Jack Abramoff

glad to see that they have finally identified this criminal as "Republican".

:popcorn:

[jfxgillis]

22. No no no. Most of you got this wrong!!

The pictures are in the possession of PAM ABRAMOFF (wife of) and they're being shopped around not just for money (which she needs badly, bless her heart), but as a not-so-veiled blackmail threat to the Bush White House. At least, that's what I'm hoping.

If those were WH copies they'd be public documents and Time would just publish.

[Maestro]

38. Interesting.

I haven't really followed the private life of Abramoff. Are he and she on the rocks?

[MissWaverly]

44. You are probably right

I heard they were running out of money for legal fees, they're probably just trying to
keep afloat, paging Larry Flynt, paging Larry Flynt

[Pryderi]

82. If this is true, I expect to find her body in a dumpster in FL.

[usregimechange]

23. But I don't want to wait.

[Beetwasher]

24. *GASP**SPUTTER* *CHOKE*

:wow:

Prepare for the story to got through the stratosphere!!!!

SHOW US THE PICS!!!!!!!!

[classics]

25. His claiming not to know Indian Jack is starting to sound a little like...

"I did not have sex with that woman".

Lets hope the resulting impeachment is more sucessful this time. :D

[dennis4868]

26. Does anyone think.....

for a minute that if this was Clinton wuth Abramoff, Time would not show the pics? hahaha...it would be all over the place...so sad!

[indypaul]

27. McClellan practicing

his "that statement is no longer operational"
response. No story here, next question.

[madmom]

29. Ah, it's one of those "everybody lied but me" scenarios.

[majortom52k]

30. caution

I hope I am wrong but have you considered the posibility that this is a set up with photo shopped pictures (after they confiscated the real ones of course). It would not surprise me that they use the same ruse as with Bush's AWOL TANG papers. Same premise, the truth is there but of course the discussion will be about authenticity and not the substance.

[For PaisAn]

34. I wouldn't put it past them

There's a very real possibilty this is how it will play out.

[Dawgs]

36. Maybe, but it could be...

that this is a different kind of setup by the Bush administration. Consider this...

The Bush Administration has someone show these images to the press; Time magazine in this case. Time magazine doesn't show the images because the asking price is too high (on purpose). Time runs a story to get Democrats excited. The seller of the pictures agrees to sell the images to Time a few days later at a lower price. Time runs the pictures, but the White House has already debunked them as just quick-shots with the President. The Bush Administration puts out a talking point that Time is partisan, the pictures show nothing, and it's the end of the story between Bush and Abramoff. The American people buy this story because the media spreads the message and nobody talks about the connection between Bush and Abramoff again; at least not anyone that matters to the Bush Administration (DUers).

I know... :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:

[gardenista]

59. Crossed my mind...

you know, sometimes I just wonder what we have become.

God damn them.

[MisterP]

105. or even try and defuse real pictures by "revealing" they're fake:

nobody will ever believe what's true because it had been superseded by something with enough "truthiness" ('05 word of the year)

[Botany]

32. I am shocked, shocked I tell you.

So that means Puffy McMoonface was lying? Wow!

[iamahaingttta]

33. "The President does not know him...

...nor does the President recall ever meeting him," McClellan said.

Any time ANY of these bastards says ANYTHING they are lying.
Therefore, Bush knows him, and recalls meeting him.

It's really just that simple with these people!

[Bigmack]

35. Shrub didn't even KNOW ....

"Kenny Boy" Lay when the Enron scandal broke. Same shit here. Nobody cares about this shit....except real Patriots who don't want their country bought and sold by slime like BushCo.

[Maestro]

37. Oh boy, let's see Scottie spin this.

I wonder if these are the same five photos that the Washingtonian said it had? I wonder when the photos will be published. Either way, more lies from the Admin. This admin is worse than Nixon's.

[Evergreen Emerald]

39. What a Pansy-assed wimpy story

And what about the "transition team" that met at Crawford? They made is sound as if it is plausible that Bush did not know him. It is a load of crap. What a way to not do a story.

[creeksneakers2]

41. It doesn't sound like the pictures prove much n/t

[sinkingfeeling]

42. What! I'm shocked, just shocked that this White House would lie about

anything!

[greiner3]

46. Good read!

Now the race will be on to publish those and other pictures of Abramoff with the prez. I can't wait!

[mzmolly]

47. Joy!!

Bush revealed beyond a doubt - finally? hmmmmmmm

[lovuian]

48. Again Scottie caught in a LIE

he has NO Credibility!!!

[Tight_rope]

98. Scottie has "ALWAYS" been a lying SOB!

[Vinca]

49. I can't wait for the photos! Bush to citizens:

who you gonna believe . . . me or your lyin' eyes? (Lyin' eyes, of course.)

[ClintonTyree]

51. A Presidency built on lies............

bush's entire presidency has been based on lies, distortions and voter fraud. There is nothing about his Presidency that is real. The house of cards is getting very, very shaky. It won't take much to bring the entire White House of lies down, and it can't happen a bit too soon for me.

If I were the person(s) with those photos, I'd be extremely cautious. People that have evidence against the BFEE or have openly opined of their lawlessness have met with some untimely "accidents". Airplane crashes, Anthrax attacks, car crashes and mysterious health problems are a common occurrences among the enemies of the BFEE.

[Imagevision]

52. With each passing week this continues to get better and better!

Now I know why Rove came back out of the woodwork Friday.

[morffin]

53. I cant believe this is even an issue

JackOff was a Bush pioneer and a member of the Bush Transition team....I dont care how many photos of the two together they get to shred.....they knew each other very well.

[PBass]

56. Yeah right!

"The White House has a different description of the event Garza attended. "The President stopped by a meeting with 21 state legislators and two tribal leaders," spokeswoman Erin Healy said."

Dumbya was just walking down the hall, he heard voices in one of the conference rooms, so he stopped by to find out what was going on.

21 state legislators and 2 tribal leaders held their meeting at the White House because every other room in Washington was booked.

See, it's all just a big coincidence.

Hey, how come TIME didn't mention that Abramoff allegedly sold two personal meetings with Bush to tribal leaders, for 25,000 dollars a pop?

And I wonder which Staff Meetings Abramoff "sat in on"? Who is his inside connection to the White House, because that person(s) need to be exposed.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

55. Herr Busch said that he didn't know Kenny Lay, too. Oops.

[savemefromdumbya]

57. Bush doesn't know Ken Lay either?

a source said that Bush and Abramoff were more than just acquaintances if you get my drift?

[proud2BlibKansan]

58. SHOW US THE DAMN PICTURES ALREADY!!

This is so ridiculous. They keep talking about these pictures. Everyone's brother in law's cousin's neighbor has actually seen them. But it's time to stop yakking about them and show them to us.

I find it amazing that no one on the intenet has actually posted these pictures yet.

This whole story just makes us look stupid. Fork over the pictures, damnit. Put up or shut up.

[Orsino]

108. "The photos are being kept safe."

But * is being kept safer.

[samhsarah]

61. Bwahahaha...Don't worry, chimpy.....

If the paparazzi are on the prowl for the pics, it's only a matter of time.:rofl: :popcorn: "I did not have relations with that lobbyist"..... Can we impeach him now?

[rodeodance]

68. hi jack--your doin' a heck of a job.

[W2Hague]

72. The infamous 6th Photo!

Ahh Fellow DUers, a very special treat!
I have come into possesion of the infamous 6th Photograph of Mr. Bush and Mr. Abramoff (through dark and nefarious channels). Despite threats both veiled and buck-nekked, I have taken the liberty to post said photograph on my website. Please view and disseminate as y'all see fit.

________________________ http://www.bruindesign.com ________________________________



Peace
D.L. Bruin

[JackORoses]

73. It is Incredibly interesting that one of the photos has Bush's sig

This makes it appear to be a Trophy of sorts

Who would collect such a trophy???

Why,
Jack Abramoff of course!

These photos are likely from his personal collection of 'Photos with Bigshots'.

His former 'bigshot' friends have now turned their collective backs on him...
Hung him out to dry.

The 'bigshots' now frantically race to remove all traces of ties,
But betrayal is a double-edged sword,
Jack is now cooperating with the Prosecution.
and
He's full of Information.
Words and Pictures

Perhaps we are witnessing the opening days of
Jack's Revenge

[NVMojo]

75. GW, Jack and the Chairman of the Coushattas Tribe met in DC in 2001

The Pimping of the Presidency

snip...

Since we first reported the White House ATR fundraiser and the $1 million contribution to the Capital Athletic Foundation (see “K Street Croupiers,” November 19, 2004), the Coushattas, speaking through Austin attorneys at Hance, Scarborough, Wright, Ginsburg & Brusilow, and through Louisiana political consultant Roy Fletcher, have vociferously denied that tribal Chairman Poncho visited the White House after contributing $25,000 to ATR. They also denied the $1 million contribution to Abramoff’s foundation. Recently the story has changed. Or at least the version told by the majority that controls the council has begun to change. Two minority members of the five-seat council have pointed to the pay-to-play meeting with President Bush and the $1 million contribution to Abramoff as examples of the council’s financial mismanagement. One of the two members of the minority faction, David Sickey, has regularly made himself available to the press. Normally, press inquiries to the council majority are answered by Hance Scarborough, by Roy Fletcher, or occasionally by sources close to the council majority.

According to a source close to the tribal majority, Chairman Poncho recently “revisited that issue” of his visit to the White House. He had previously denied it because he thought he was responding to press inquiries that implied he had a one-on-one meeting with Bush. He now recalls that he in fact did go to the White House on May 9, 2001. Tribal attorney Kathryn Fowler Van Hoof went with him, although she did not get into the meeting with the President. That meeting lasted for about 15 minutes and was not a one-on-one meeting. At the meeting, Bush made some general comments about Indian policy but did not discuss Indian gaming. Abramoff was at the meeting—for which he charged the Coushatta Tribe $25,000. The change in Poncho’s position is odd in light of the fact that he and his spokespersons have maintained for more than a year that he did not meet with President Bush in May 2001.

more...

http://www.texasobserver.org/showArticle_new.asp?ArticleID=13

[wordpix2]

91. "pay to play meeting with Pres. Bush and $1 million contribution to Abram

off..."

You have to pay a lot to get a 15 min. meeting with the dangerous moron *.

[thereismore]

76. I don't get this.

Another lie of Bushturd...but is it relevant? I mean, does tha fact that Bushturd knew Jackoff make Bushturd palpably guilty of something, like a crime? Something that could be used against him? I wonder, is this even important compared to the real crimes?

[HuffleClaw]

78. this whole 'jack who?' routine is soooo obviously a complete sham

and all it does is tell everyone that bush considers loyalty to his friends a liability when it suits him. not a flattering truth to be admitting.

[yorkiemommie1]

79. George jilts Jack

...Jack works his ass off for George and George says ' never heard of the guy'. talk about unrequited love !!!

:nopity:

[Humor_In_Cuneiform]

80. Seriously, lying is all these people know. sheesh. n/t

[Pryderi]

81. Karl Rove has them. It's another one of his nefarious plans.

j/k

[dysfunctional press]

83. when jack,*, and jeff gannon get together in the oval office

...for late-night "bull sessions"-

who do you suppose gets to be "lucky pierre"?

[deadparrot]

84. Can't wait to see the pics.

Hope they release them ASAP. :bounce:

[Dunvegan]

85. Morph of Abramoff Picture with Bush and Transition Team Picture

The original Bush Transition Team picture with Bush standing in the doorway with an "unnamed" man behind him is from this BBC report of Thursday, 30 November, 2000:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/world/americas/1046979.stm

(Scroll down to the bottom of the page for picture and article.)

What do you think? Is this a smoking gun picture?

[wordpix2]

92. this photo sure looks like Jackoff with *

[progressivebydesign]

94. THAT IS SO HIM!!!!! Here's more info from WP...

No mistaking the hairline, the downward point of his nose.. the coloring. It's him. And.. I found this piece in the WaPo from 1-6-06 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/05/AR2006010501903.html

Yes... Abramoff WAS part of the transition team, for the Interior Department. So yes, that is him in the photo. The story is a good read...

[Ice4Clark]

96. Here's another photo from the same event. NOT Abramoff

I can't get the image to show here, but click on this and it will take you there.

Caption:
382489 01: Texas Governor and Republican presidential candidate George W. Bush shakes hands with a young visitor November 28, 2000 as he leaves the state capitol in Austin, TX. (Photo by Joe Raedle/Newsmakers)

[savemefromdumbya]

86. WHEN CAN WE SEE THEM?

they should have them in the frontheadlines

[buddysmellgood]

93. They can't be published because they involve blowjobs.

[Raine]

95. The local NBC station

here in Los Angeles talked about this story, about how chimpy denied knowing Abramoff and how there are pictures that prove otherwise.

[Tight_rope]

99. What I find absolutely incredible is their plain stupidity!

To actually think that photo's of the Chimperor and Jack would not surface.:spank: Hell I would pay a buck to see the photo's myself and of course for my history book.

But until then I will wait patiently for the highest bidder to get the pictures and saw them to the world. What a glorious day that will be!:toast:

[hyphenate]

100. You know if it weren't so horrendous

This whole administration could be written off as what NOT to do when you are president and his regime.

I still have to wonder, truthfully, how ANYONE in their right mind still believes ANYTHING this fucked up administration says.

Come on! Pictures might be photoshoppable, but there comes a time when even idiots, morons and imbeciles can tell the difference between a lie and a truth, and this group has told SO MANY big ones, it's hard to keep track of them all.

[janetle]

102. Remember the Lincoln bedroom?

And how the Clintons were criticized so harshly? This needs to be turned around and thrown in Bush's face that not only has he sold out the Lincoln bedroom---he sold the entire government--Congress, the Supreme Court and all of the Excecutive branch to Jack.

[bush_is_wacko]

107. Unfortunately, I have seen the two by two lines that this article speaks o

This presznit and other presidents do INDEED take many photos with people they do not know. In Abramhoffs case I have NO DOUBT that Bush knew him and had MANY dealings with him but IMO unless Abramhoff has a death wish and decides to confess Bush will go scott free on this. I notice he (Abromhoff) now routinely wears a bullet proof vest when he appears in public.

Someone here mentioned that he looked like Dick Tracey in one photo but I thought the more telling thing in that photo was the very obvious bulge under his coat.

[car]

114. Butch Otter

I hope Abramoff get's what is coming to him. Did you know, he contributed to C.L. "Butch" Otter's campaign? Butch Otter is a Republican running for Governor in the state of Idaho. Butch is a US Representative right now.

[PhilipShore]

115. Truthdig: Guess Who Was Shopping Abramoff-Bush Pix? Abramoff!

Truthdig
Jan. 24, 2006

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/01/24/update-isikoff-confirms-abramoff-shopped-bush-photos/

Think Progress: Over the weekend, Time magazine and the Washingtonian both reported on five photos of President Bush with Jack Abramoff, but neither publication revealed its source.

Yesterday, ThinkProgress laid out the case for why the source for the photos was likely Abramoff himself. Last night, our hunch was confirmed.

Appearing on MSNBC, Newsweek correspondent Michael Isikoff reported that it was indeed Abramoff who floated the photographs to Washingtonian. Watch the video Story