McCain: U.S. Can't Be Held Hostage for Oil

[leftchick]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060122/ap_on_go_co/us_mccain_oil

WASHINGTON - A top Republican lawmaker said Sunday that America must explore alternate energy sources to avoid being held hostage by Iran or by "wackos" in Venezuela — an apparent reference to Hugo Chavez, Venezuela's populist president.

Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record), a potential presidential contender in 2008, said recent action by "Mr. Chavez" and by Iran's leaders make it clear that the United States will be vulnerable as long as it remains dependent on foreign energy.

"We've got to get quickly on a track to energy independence from foreign oil, and that means, among other things, going back to nuclear power," McCain said on Fox News Sunday.

"We better understand the vulnerabilities that our economy, and our very lives, have when we're dependent on Iranian mullahs and wackos in Venezuela," said McCain, who challenged President George W. Bush for the Republican presidential nomination in 2000.

[firefox]

1. Why only now, John? nt

[still_one]

4. I agree, and I detest mccain for other reasons

but where have the democrats been for the last 6 years, or technically since 1973

[lindisfarne]

15. Agreed. McCain has absolutely no integrity. n/t

[ConcernedCanuk]

16. Why now? - maybe they realize they CAN'T control the whole World

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with their threats and dollars

The biggest WarMachine the world has ever known is stretched so far that the USSA can't even take care of it's own people on it's own continent (which it stole by the way)

Homelessness, Unemployment, Tens of Millions without HealthCare -the list goes on and on - are all rife in the USA'

This is a created environment by the PNACers - one of the best (albeit sometimes very short) careers in the USSA is the Military - so millions flock to it out of necessity

But even that ploy is failing - so the USSA better get off this oil/slaughtering kick to support themselves -

Wake up USA!

A whole lot of the World don't like you much these days

and just like from days of old

The "peasants" will unite and bring you down . .

Every "Empire" always ends with "the fall of"

USSA is next

[daleo]

21. Probably because a nuclear advocate gave him a donation. n/t

[oblivious]

29. LOL. That was the first thing that hit me too.

Nuclear industry meeting: "Why don't we give that wacko McCain a bunch of dough to promote nuclear energy. He gets a lot of press attention."

[VegasWolf]

2. Sure it can John. What do you think has been happening the last 6 years?

:puke:

[FloridaPat]

3. I've been hearing that line for 40 years now. The US gov't is not

interested in reducing dependence on foreign oil. In the 60's we got 30% from overseas. Now we get 60-70%. Much easier just to send the military out and force the oil people to give us their oil.

[OKthatsIT]

13. Yeah, why should they change that propaganda

....they kill(or fatten) 2 birds with one stone

energy + war profiteering = create war

[msongs]

5. yep, let's put nuclear plants in phoenix and tucson pronto or even

better, wyoming, home of the dick cheney.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/dean2008.htm

[depakid]

6. So maybe consider doing something about demand?

Last I heard, people aren't driving around on nuclear power. For starters.

One nice thing about Republican rule, though. By bankrupting the economy and eroding our manufacturing base, they've pretty well assured that when America does finally find itself in dire energy straits, the country will be so weakened that its ability to wage large scale war will be substantially compromised.

[VegasWolf]

7. Yes, like all other empires before us, the Roman Empire, the Spanish

Empire, the English Empire, and now the American Empire. All rise for the new Chinese Empire!

[Coastie for Truth]

9. No we're not driving around on nuclear power

but if we had nuclear power we could drive these babies-->
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YES - I worked at DOE's Bruceton "Fischer Tropsch" Lab as a student, I worked at Bettis National Lab early in my career, and I worked for the prime vendor on the GM Electric Vehicle 1.

YES - I lived near Shippingport.

YES - I was a staffie for Assemblyman Ivan Itkin - who chaired the General Assembly's "Three Mile island" investigation"

[daleo]

22. But they don't have cup holders

And you can't haul 144 rolls of toilet paper and a 35 gallon drum of diet cola from the big box store.

[Coastie for Truth]

25. You could with Toyota's RAV4 "Electric" NT

[daleo]

27. I'm just kidding

They look like a good idea.

[TankLV]

23. And to think that insurance premiums are insane NOW.

Imagine what these babies would do in a collision.

Sometimes I think things can't get more insane, then I'm reminded.

[Coastie for Truth]

24. The batteries

(metal hydride and lithium ion) have no electrolyte - like conventional lead-acid batteries. They have immobilized solid polymer electrolyte.

In a Ni Metal hydride battery the electrodes are like sand paper grit. Wont do anything in a collision (compare that to 8-20 gallons of volatile gasoline)

In new Lithium batteries the lithium electrodes are particulate and "calendared" in a conductive polymer skin--which in turn is embedded in a solid polymer electrode. Ain't goin' nowhere in a collision - compared to to 8-20 gallons of volatile gasoline sloshing around.

I would prefer a pure electric or a hybrid or a plug-in hybrid (European market Prius) to gasoline.

No American kids have to die in Iraq, Iran, Nigeria, or Venezuela for me to get gasoline for an electric.

[Coastie for Truth]

8. I have no problems with nuclear power

This is the town where my Dad was born, this is where I was born -- and this is where we got our electricity after 1958 -- Shippingport

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I grew up in the "coal patch" of Southwestern Pennsylvania - Make mine nuke.

[wordpix2]

33. yeah, where you gonna put the nuke waste and keep it safe for thousands of

years?

[Coastie for Truth]

34. I grew up in Western Pennsylvania COAL Country

We had many 200+ death coal mine explosions in my county.

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"Coastie", PhD (from a state school of Engineering and Mines
Professional Engineer (From a Coal Mining State)

I grew up near in the , worked at Bruceton National Lab (Fischer-Tropsch Synthesis of Gasoline from Coal), Bettis National Lab (nuclear reactors), and later lived just up the river near the Shippingport Reactor. I'll take nuke ---= and read the Scientific American articles nd the references.

Ask me anything, my Steelers won yesterday.

[killbotfactory]

10. When oil becomes unprofitable, we will move away from it

It's profit uber alles in this country.

[Coastie for Truth]

14. Profitable only because the oil companies and/or

the motorists are not charged directly for the full costs of our aggressive wars to steal other peoples' oil.

We are funding the war - operations and maintenance, pay and allowances, future VA benefits, opportunity costs -- by debt - held by China and to be paid by our grand kids.

Bush is living on plastic.
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[stepnw1f]

11. McCain is another GOP Phoney

Fuck him!

[stepnw1f]

12. McCain is a Bush Mini-Me

Fuck him!

[cosmicdot]

17. "wackos" in Venezuela ???

who was that designed for, John, "top Republican lawmaker"?

doesn't sound very 'presidential' ... Pat Robertson probably dug it ...

why is it so few get so much air time?
does anyone keep official records/tabs of how much air time people get?

[thebigidea]

18. whereas we can hold other countries hostage for oil, eh?

[Art_from_Ark]

19. But it's OK to be held hostage by oil barons, right, John?

As long as they're from your party, that is. :banghead:

[Glidescube]

20. He will be Pres in 2008 if he runs

He is immensely popular with Democratic voters and Republican voters. If he and Hillary ran together they would take the ticket.

[dysfunctional press]

26. what about the dogs & devils from the house of saud?

oh...that's right- they pretend to be on our side- so their brand of evil is okey-dokey with us.

[IndianaGreen]

28. John McCain was a great Senator!

Until he went inside the alien spaceship and was replaced by an alien reptilian.

"Wackos in Venezuela"? I think I'll go and fill up at CITGO.

[leesa]

30. "wackos in Venezuela"...from the mouth of a true wacko...John McCain.

Right... WACKOS that refuse to be ripped off by American corporations any longer. That's just such an irrational thing to do!

[pinniped]

31. Hooray, more nuclear power plants and nuclear waste that no one wants.

[unkachuck]

32. sure we can....

....John, if we keep trying....wasn't it your boys about 5 years ago that started this lastest wacko round of intense global bull$hit?....if we couldn't be held hostage for oil, what would you, the boys and our global war machine do?....negotiate?....

....and I'll have to think about your idea on building more nuclear power plants....instead of a few thousand dead like 9/11, wouldn't it mean hundreds of thousands dead if OBL knocks one over or opens one up?....do you really need to be making more humanity threatening targets for terrorists before you at least secure our borders?....

....if we put the first new nuclear power plant next to your house in Arizona and the second in the heart of Washington DC, you and your repug friends could keep an eye on them for us when you weren't looting the treasury, stealing from working people and lieing....we need independence from repugs, YOU and 'domestic oil' first, then we can concentrate on independence from foreign oil....

[adigal]

35. We knew about this since the 70s

but the republicans, in homage to the oil companies, but the kabosh on any innovative way to run our cars.

So what is that John?? They CAN and WILL hold us hostage.

[Javaman]

36. Actually, john mclame, yes we can be held hostage by oil and ...

we have a prezzzzzzz* that actively pursues that option.

"We've got to get quickly on a track to energy independence from foreign oil". Dream on johnny boy, dream on. If you wanted that to happen you should have supported the investigation into election fraud in 2000, because, you know, Al Gore, the guy that's NOT beholden to the oil barons, actually had a plan, but hey that's all burning oil and gas under the bridge now, isn't it?

john mclame = colossal ass-sucking lackey.