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Mon Jan-23-06 03:05 AM
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BBC World: Explosion in Baghdad ... Two dead ... breaking |
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Mon Jan-23-06 03:16 AM
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1. Reuters:Suicide car bomber kills 2 at Baghdad checkpoint |
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BAGHDAD (Reuters) - A suicide car bomber attacked a security checkpoint in central Baghdad on Monday, killing at least two people and wounding six others close to the Green Zone government compound, police said. Police said the wounded included three civilians and three policemen. Witnesses told al-Iraqiya state television that three people had been killed. Reuters reporters in the area heard two more blasts a few minutes afterwards. Police said a roadside bomb had exploded in the al-Waziriya area but they had no information on casualties. The suicide bombing took place near the Iranian embassy but a spokeswoman said the mission was not damaged. more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/iraq_bomb_dc;_
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Mon Jan-23-06 03:23 AM
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2. The bushbots will yawn |
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and praise W. I expressed my concern to a Japanese American friend on why we are not disgusted with innocent Iraqis deaths. He responded because they are brown tinged. How very sad the bushbots remain so silent.
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Mon Jan-23-06 08:30 AM
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Mon Jan-23-06 10:42 AM
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11. "BRING EM ON" shouted the AWOL CHIMPANZEE |
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More death and destruction
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Mon Jan-23-06 03:24 AM
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3. Good thing the insurgency is in its last throes. |
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Mon Jan-23-06 03:31 AM
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4. I am just sick. All we have is sarcasm and its not our fualt. I wonder |
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if this cynical reaction to evrything is the way it was as the Nazis were rising to power.
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Mon Jan-23-06 03:48 AM
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5. It's not as though you can complain to someone, |
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and get results. Essentially, all you can do is comment. When your comments are "worthless," what's the difference if they are sarcastic?
What happens when you write to politicians? Do they stop the killing? No. It all seems so futile.
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Mon Jan-23-06 03:52 AM
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6. The cynicism was there to begin with.... |
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The loss of the Great War... The collapse of the economy... and a sense that the individual didn't matter any more really set the stage for the NAZI's....
We are far from that here....
But if this sense of floundering continues, the country could go either way... A demagogue such as Hitler, or an inspiring leader on the lines of a Kennedy....
It's all a matter if the country thinks it's best days are behind us....
Or if we feel that the future's so bright.... We gotta wear shades.....
Right now....
We are in the middle....
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Mon Jan-23-06 08:26 AM
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7. "We are far from that here...." |
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That is because here is not there. We are not going to repeat the german experience. However rather than that being a comfort, thinking that just because we haven't replicated the decade long economic and political crisis that led to the installation of Hitler as chancellor and the overthrow of the republic, 'we aren't there yet' is a misreading of current events.
We are now in a one party tyranny. That fact became official when the executive announced on two separate occasions that legislative and constitutional law no longer applied to the executive branch, using as justification the constitutional role of commander in chief and a permanent although unofficial state of war. The tyranny uses corrupt elections and nearly complete control over mass media to retain formal control over all three branches of government, but it is an open question as to what actions it would take were it to actually lose an election. The form of the tyranny is a typical deformed republic one party government, where through corruption and manipulation the ruling party has more or less guaranteed continuous rule. Our neighbor to the south, Mexico, had a similar experience with its PRI that lasted from the late 20's to the early 90's. Hopefully we will not see such longevity from our rulers.
Is it fascism yet? Who knows. We will figure that out when it is all over. The ruling party certainly uses many of the traditional elements of fascism: extreme nationalism, disdain for human rights, identification of a scapegoat enemy as a unifying cause, supremacy of the military, control of the mass media, intertwining of religion and government, collusion of corporate power and government (kleptocracy), are certainly descernible in our new order. We do not have the strutting militarism of Hitler or Mussolini - not to that degree, but that is more a matter of style rather than substance. This is certainly not your 1930's fascism. It is, as the saying goes, a kindler gentler fascism.
Is it totalitarian? Not yet, but the mechanisms for totalitarian control are in place. There are two key elements that have been fostered by The Cabal that could in fact lead directly to totalitarian rule if they decide to go this route. First, they have in place a system of monitoring that is far beyond the capabilities of the totalitarian regimes of the left and right in the 30's and 40's. The monitoring capabilities of the NSA and similar organizations are universal. They can listen in to everyone on a continuous basis. Secondly, the regime has developed a separate armed force outside of the institutional armed forces, a mercenary army, controlled directly by the administration without any oversight and without a long tradition of obedience to constitution and law rather than to office holders. Alongside that mercenary army they have developed a secret prison system and its complement of obedient jailers ready and willing to perform their tasks without question. The ingredients are all there. Will we even know when they have been turned against us?
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Mon Jan-23-06 09:00 AM
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9. A growing number of people, including myself, no longer ask ourselves.... |
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...if we are being ruled by a Fascist government. We know that we are, and some of us knew it from the day that the NeoCon Junta seized power in December 2000.
I find your comment about a "a kindler gentler fascism" to be rather extraordinary in light of the deaths of 40,000 Afghans and 100,000 Iraqis, a number which continues to grow with reach passing day. And what of the tens of millions of Americans who have been put in jeopardy because they no longer have health insurance and/or are incapable of buying the prescriptions they need to make their lives better? What about the massive shift of the nation's wealth to the very wealthy top 1%?
And your last paragraph is rather interesting in regards to the electronic surveillance systems we ALREADY know are being used on Americans nationwise.
Additionally, what do you know about REX 84, the 800 detainmant camps built nationwide under the Regan presidency that FEMA currently owns and operates? What's the real purpose of those camps? You might want to do a Google search on REX 84 and find out for yourself.
You still have questions about the NeoCon Junta and whether or not they're inherently Fascist? The facts are there...you may not be looking far enough past what you believe to be the "kindler gentler" surface.
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Mon Jan-23-06 10:35 AM
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10. a kindler gentler fascism - vs Iraq and Afghanistan |
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I did not mean to diminish the brutality of our military adventures. What I meant was specifically the form of government we have here within the United States. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Fallujah, for example, exists within a totalitarian regime imposed by our military forces. My focus here is strictly on an analysis of the form of the government that the ruling party is in the process of creating within the US.
Do I have any questions that what we have is fascism? No, so to that extent my question is rhetorical.
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Mon Jan-23-06 12:32 PM
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12. Three U.S. Servicemen, Three Iraqis Killed |
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Three U.S. Servicemen, Three Iraqis Killed By SINAN SALAHEDDIN, Associated Press Writer 2 minutes ago http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060123/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_060123123025;_ylt=AnFiMB2GSBexNrZ5bI7pjklX6GMA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUlTwo civilians and a policeman were killed and six Iraqis were wounded, including five policemen, al-Samarie said. A roadside bomb killed a U.S. soldier Monday during a patrol in southwestern Baghdad, the military said in a statement. The soldier was attached to the Multi-National Division-Baghdad. Two U.S. airmen were killed and a third was wounded in an attack on a convoy Sunday near Taji, where a U.S. air base is located 12 miles north of Baghdad, the military said.
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Mon Jan-23-06 12:32 PM
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13. There is simply nothing to say that hasn't been said. We are powerless. |
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Mon Jan-23-06 12:33 PM
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14. HOW MANY MORE GEORGIE, HOW MANY MORE? |
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Long Time Gone Lyrics
It's been a long time comin' It's goin' to be a long time gone. And it appears to be a long, Appears to be a long, Appears to be a long time, Yes, a long, long, long, long time, Before the dawn.
Turn, turn any corner. Hear, you must hear what the people say, You know there's something that's goin' on around here, That surely, surely, surely won't stand the light of day. And it appears to be a long, (yes it does) Appears to be a long, Appears to be a long time, Such a long, long, time, Before the dawn.
Speak out, you got to speak out against the madness You got to speak your mind, If you dare. But don't, no don't no try to get yourself elected. If you do you had better cut your hair. And it appears to be a long, (yes it does) Appears to be a long Appears to be a long time, Such a long, long, long, long time, Before the dawn.
It's been a long time comin', It's going to be a long time gone. But you know, the darkest hour, Is always, always just before the dawn. And it appears to be a long, Appears to be a long, Appears to be a long time, Such a long, long, long, long time before the dawn
- Crosby Stills Nash Young :hi: saigon68 I've missed ya
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Mon Jan-23-06 12:35 PM
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15. just some assorted dead-enders and Saddam Loyalists |
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American Idol is on tomorrow night.
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