Chavez right hand Man, tells Mccain to go to HELL.

[sarcasmo]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060124/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/venezuela_mccain


Jose Vicente Rangel was responding to McCain's statement on Sunday that America must explore alternative energy sources to avoid depending on Iran or "wackos" in Venezuela — apparently a reference to Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.

[Tom Joad]

1. Can we suggest McCain take most of congress with him on his journey?

[donheld]

40. And most of the * administration with him as well nt

[tatertop]

2. I also tell Mccain to go to hell

[sasha031]

3. good for him

ya mccain go to hell

[sarcasmo]

4. I do like the fact that Hugo and his followers are not backing down.

Which is more than I can say for some Dem's in name only like Lieberman.

[MODemocrat]

39. I'd like to add Diane Feinstein to the list of DINO

Unrelated, possibly in this instance, but she's as bad as Lieberman when it comes to kissing "up".:argh:

[farmbo]

5. "Wackos" who are channeling below market heating oil to America's poor...

eom

[K-W]

7. Youd have to be crazy not to exploit the powerless.

Helping them? Thats wacko.

[killbotfactory]

35. Psst. They are only powerless if they don't join forces and rise up...

so don't ever tell them that!

[NIGHT TRIPPER]

46. if it feels good ......"exploit" it !!------ the GOP wisdom at work

I hate those damn powerless ones-
they dee serve what's commin' to'em


.



:sarcasm:

[pinniped]

6. Tell the kook know we also rely on Iraq for that evil oil.

.

[HuffleClaw]

8. "It looks like they have nothing else to do in the United States,"

except whine and wail about other nations so that the public won't pay attention to the huge list of their own wrongdoings. they are due for a real fall.

[northofdenali]

9. So true. Unfortunately, the sheeple don't get it. n/t

[oasis]

10. Kiss my ass John McCain, you're the whacko.

[Moochy]

11. Here's the wacko

You can almost smell the shame cant you?

[IndianaGreen]

16. Brokenback Mountain

That's one sick photo of those two, second only to the one of Bush kissing Holy Joe.

[0007]

18. It is a classic......the facial expressions of the people in

the background show the true effect of the kool aid.

[nolabels]

17. No, he is just checking to see if chimpy is using underarm deodorant

Must suck to go from being a prisoner of war to a political whore.

Lesson to be learned, setting yourself up to be abused is no way to run your life :shrug:

[leftchick]

12. he is absolutely right on! Full quote....

<snip>

"It looks like they have nothing else to do in the United States," Rangel said, adding that the Americans have "so many problems, 40 million poor people, 30 million drug users, and an American senator is paying attention to us. He can go to hell."

:applause:

[bdot]

13. So does this mean you do not want alternative energy sources?

[oneoftheboys]

14. Rangel wants McCain join him in the HELL that Chavez has created

in Venezuela, eh?

Cool.

[Judi Lynn]

20. It would be good to see your links to material supporting you charge

Chavez has made Venezuela into a "living hell." Should be very educational.

[Tempest]

26. You're wasting your time, Judi

This poster has been making inflamatory remarks about Chavez all over the place and has yet to provide any evidence he knows what he's talking about.

You're better off dumping him under some bridge where he belongs.

[Judi Lynn]

30. Pity! Who welcomes visitors like this, anyway?

Horrific waste of time. Maybe they get lonely.

[Tempest]

32. "Maybe they get lonely"

It gets lonely down in the basement with only a computer for company while mom's at work.

[Ignis]

43. They just recycle names every so often.

...But you can still smell the wind and the sea on them. :)

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

36. Watch out everybody! He's got mediocre Photoshop skills. n/t

[killbotfactory]

28. he's busy defending the confederate south in another thread

just fyi

[Name removed]

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[Bridget Burke]

47. Please, post some facts!

Surely, you have time to waste.

[Mika]

24. Its HELL for the ex oligarchy when poor people are empowered and educated.

Gotta love that photoshoped Dr evil/Mini me.. its dripping with oligarchal class fear.

[Judi Lynn]

31. One feels embarrassed for the poster. n/t

[Tempest]

33. More like disgust

With the Internet at their fingertips, they choose to stay ignorant.

[Name removed]

44. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Bridget Burke]

50. Where's the element of truth?

Of course, your source is the Cuban-American National Foundation, a right-wing group of professional Cuban "exiles." So what if they have links to terrorists?

[Judi Lynn]

51. Luis Posada Carriles said, in a NY Times interview, that they have

financed his various bombing attacks. Not much to be proud of, is it?

The ability of CANF to play its high level political lobbying role depends heavily on its continuing denial of any involvement in terrorist activities. However, CANF has, on more than one occasion, been caught with traces of explosives on its hands.

Cuban agent, Percy Francisco Alvarado, infiltrated CANF and testified during the trial of the Miami Five that he had been offered more than $15,000 by the Foundation to set off two large bombs in Havana tourist centres in the mid 1990s. The Cuban agent went along with the plan long enough to pick up the explosives in Guatemala from Luis Posada Carriles, a CIA-trained Cuban exile who'd spent nine years in a Venezuelan prison for his involvement in bombing a Cuban passenger plane in 1976. Seventy three people died.

In 1997 a series of bombs were planted in hotels and restaurants in Cuba in an attempt to ruin the island's tourist trade. A bomb set off in the Copacabana Hotel in Havana killed an Italian tourist. Two Salvadoran and three Guatemalan mercenaries were convicted of the bombings, and Posada Carriles admitted publicly he had supplied explosives to the men. One of the Salvadoran mercenaries, Raul Ernesto Cruz Leon, confessed he was paid $3000 by CANF for each bomb he planted. At one point Posada Carriles also said publicly that the bombings were supported by CANF, though he hastily retracted his statement after CANF issued vehement denials. Cuban intelligence then discovered that Carriles was planning another assassination attempt on Castro during the Cuban president's visit to the 10th Ibero-American Conference in Panama in November 2000. Panamanian police subsequently apprehended four men, including Carriles, and discovered their hire car was packed with explosives. Carriles is presently in a Panamanian prison awaiting trial.

The clearest evidence that CANF are heavily involved in terrorism came in November 1997 when US coast guards came across a boat called El Esperanza floundering with mechanical problems off the coast of Puerto Rico. The four men on board gave unconvincing stories of what they were up to and the boat was searched. In a false bottom US Customs found two .50-calibre long-range military sniper rifles, 70 rounds of ammunition, night scopes, three fatigue uniforms and communications equipment.

US Customs Agent Marco Rocco testified that one of the men admitted they were on their way to assassinate Castro in Venezuela. The boat was registered to Nautical Sports, a Florida based company of which CANF director, Jose Antonio Llama, is president, director, secretary and treasurer. The vessel had left Florida from a private dock owned by Llama's friend, Marco Antonio Sainz, a business partner of CANF's treasurer, Feliciano Foyo.

According to an FBI document, one of the sniper rifles found on board La Esperanza was licensed to none other than Francisco Hernandez, CANF's president.
(snip/...)

http://www.redpepper.org.uk/inv-archive/April2002.html

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It definitely identifies people when they would use CANF material on a message board. Anyone sensible would have nothing but contempt for these monstrosities.

[Shakespeare]

54. Mmmmmmmmmmm, propaganda.

Tastes like chicken!

[Name removed]

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[Bridget Burke]

25. Thanks for pointing us to this blog!

Weak ass old bitches like Howard Dean, Mike(BJ)Farell and Jack Murtha make me sick. Luckily we have dedicated men and women that are willing to stand up to thugs like Bin Laden and they don't care what these old coots think.

Let Allah sort them out.

It is doubtful but i could be wrong. If someone out there has some other reason that the opinions of the Liberals and the Terrorists are so close then I invite your reply right here.

www.disposablewisdom.com/nucleus/

It explains a lot.

[Judi Lynn]

27. Can you imagine anyone goes there ON PURPOSE?

Typical drool:
From Howard Deans Lips to Bin Ladin's Ear.
Liberals are philosophically akin to Al Qaeda

Yeah, we don't got us a Democrat, here, do we?

On edit:

That site actually has a recording of F.D.R. claiming "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." Too bad they had to lower themselves for a quote from a Democrat.

The best one they could get from a Republican is "I am not a crook," or "It seems there's rumors on the internets" or ""There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."

[Tempest]

34. If the rabid Bushies aren't there

They're in the newsgroups polluting Usenet.

I'd prefer they stayed on that web site.

[gulfcoastliberal]

58. ..

[ZapaPaine]

59. Idiot and Ignorant Poster

There's millions of working poor in Venezuela whose idea of hell is slowly dissipating thanks to Chavez. The same can be said for the tens of millions throughout Latin America who no longer are captive to US neoliberal market colonialism. Like dominoes right wing puppets continue to fall throughout the region. The big one, Mexico, is next...

Show us the proof to your accusations, oneofthedildos.

[apple_ridge]

63. Are there any freepers who graduated from high school?

[manic expression]

70. Are you serious?

Yeah, helping the poor is really "hell"? :eyes:

Do you have any idea of what you are talking about? Chavez has been pursuing policies for the people and NOT for Uncle Sam and exploitation. It's called JUSTICE; get used to it, because Chile, Bolivia and possibly Mexico and Peru are doing the same.

[Cha]

72. I see you disrupted and

ya did it poorly.

[Don Claybrook]

15. Can you excerpt some more? it's from Yahoo

I've blocked Yahoo from coming through my firewall. They can't be trusted.

Did the guy actually tell McCain to go to hell?

[Judi Lynn]

19. The AP writer, Christopher Toothaker, got an entire article out of this

paragraph by throwing in additional pre-digested "news:"

"It looks like they have nothing else to do in the United States," Rangel said, adding that the Americans have "so many problems, 40 million poor people, 30 million drug users, and an American senator is paying attention to us. He can go to hell."

[Don Claybrook]

21. thanks very much

I wasn't sure if McCain was literally told to go to hell.

Isn't it strange that we always hear about a dictatorship, and dangerous leftists and wackos and so on, about Venezuela. And yet they never, never, ever tell us why an elected leader is a dictator, or why being a leftist is bad, or why Chavez is dangerous or wacked or anything else. And of course that's because there's not an ounce, not a jot or tittle of evidence to support any of this crap.

And yet, that's how our mainstream media reports it, dutifully. Odd how you never hear that Chavez is a follower of liberation theology, and his understanding of Jesus' teachings tells him to favor the poor over the rich. Funny how we never hear that this is apparently his driving motivation.

[ROakes1019]

23. leftist

So many of the problems created in our country by the righties goes back, I believe, to the extreme hatred of communism of McCarthyism and Reagonism. No, I don't support communism but what they really hate is any kind of socialism. Socialism stands against capitalism and capitalism is the hallmark of the authoritarian, big-business righties. They hate Social Security and any semblance of welfare. In essense, they hate the common man, especially if he threatens to get any of their ill-gotten gain. In the end, I believe, there are two kinds of political orientation--authoritarian and humanitarian. And, of course, authoritarians love the wrathful God of the Old Testament, who smites all enemies and publishes a list of ultimate commandments for the sheeple, demands that women submit to their husbands and children yield to the father at all times. This is patriarchy, supported by the all-powerful white man, who punishes any dissent.

[DemonFighterLives]

22. I second it

Go to Hell John! You could've been somebody! You could have been a contender!- until you decided to crawl under the b*sh table.

[wordpix]

29. McCain thinks nukes are answer to energy independence, what a joke

Get back to me, John, when you've solved the issues of storage, transportation and security of nukes and waste that is toxic in the environment for thousands of years.

snip:
"We've got to get quickly on a track to energy independence from foreign oil, and that means, among other things, going back to nuclear power," the Arizona senator said on Fox News Sunday. "We better understand the vulnerabilities that our economy, and our very lives, have when we're dependent on Iranian mullahs and wackos in Venezuela."

[Solo_in_MD]

66. He is not the only one thinking that nuclear power is a better solution

than coal and oil. There is some merit to that apporach. It assumes that we can not realistically reverse demand, a position that has considerable merit. Nuclear may be the lesser of several evils.

[DiverDave]

37. John Mccain is

a war hero, to go through what he did, I don't know if I could do it.
THAT being said, how in the HELL does he embrace a person that smeared and LIED about his adopted daughter?
I'll tell ya what, he is pond scum, to let that go by.
Yes, he was a stand up guy as a POW, and I admire that.
But now?
Another fascist that the phrase "the ends justifies the means"
Guess who else said that?
The god damned NAZI'S, thats WHO.
Up yours, john.

[MODemocrat]

38. What in the world has happened to John McCain?

He swings just like a pendlum these days. He's even to the point where he sounds unstable. Is he taking a chapter out of George W. Bush's book? ;( :shrug:

[Tippy]

41. Nothing happened to John McCain he is the same person

he was all along..For years I have preached here and in other discussions, we can not and should not trust McCain, I wish I had a nickle for every time I was told I was wrong...I was sick physicaly durring 2004 when folks though Kerry should pick him for a running mate.

The only dam difference between Bush and McCain is McCain served and Bush went AWOL....If people had really listened to McCain you all would have seen what I saw.

[MODemocrat]

67. I didn't want Kerry to pick him for his running mate either

In a way, I think his status as a war hero sort of clouded my thinking. Lately, though, he's more than I can tolerate. He just has to brag on der Bush no matter what show he's on. ;( x(

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

42. He's the same overpriced street walker he always was. n/t

[MODemocrat]

68. There's already enough of those on the air every day

It looks pretty stupid of McCain to kiss up to Bush after the way he wss treated by him during the primaries. If someone treated me this way, I'd find it difficult to ever speak to that person again.:thumbsdown:

[the5thmusketeer]

69. It's politics and all play that game.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

74. That's because he's got 0 integrity. n/t

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

48. Why call him "right hand man"? He's the VICE PRESIDENT ffs!

That's like calling Chavez "leader" or "strong man" instead of "president" -- don't fall for it -- this is subtle RW spin to deny legitimacy in the public's minds for people they don't like.

[Judi Lynn]

49. It's slimey and way underhanded. I wonder if they think no one notices.

No doubt they do. It's treating the reading public with total contempt.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

52. Keep in mind the OP used that term -- NOT the Yahoo article.

[Judi Lynn]

53. Heh, heh. Well, why didn't you tell me sooner?

Actually, you do see that "style" of writing a lot in the U.S. press. (gulp)

[sarcasmo]

55. It's what came to mind when I posted the article. Man this place is a trip

[sarcasmo]

56. Oops I used Man, maybe that means I am making Women less superior.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

65. No, it means you probably took the time to read my profile. -nt

[rinsd]

57. LOL.

This kills me.

Idol worship has gotten to the point that if you don't show ENOUGH respect as determined by his admirers you should be attacked for it.

Strong man I could see a problem with but leader?

Perhaps he should always be refered to as his excellency from now on to clear up any confusion.

[Megahurtz]

60. Fuck Off McCain.n/t

[cpamomfromtexas]

61. SOMEONE NEEDS TO FIND OUT WHY HIS SON DOESN'T SPEAK TO HIM

BEFORE HE RUNS.

[redqueen]

64. And take the rest of the GOPranos and your repuke trolls with you!

[Cha]

71. mccain is the WHACKO..

he's like the charred pot calling the tea kettle "black".

[Voltaire99]

73. Go to hell, McCain!

Here where we languish under the misrule of a duopoly bought and sold by corporations, we can only dream of having a leader as fine as Chavez.

I'd trade 9/10 of seated Democratics for him in a heartbeat. Problem is, nobody'd take 'em.