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American liberal Donating Member (915 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 11:02 AM
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Activists Seek End to Poverty, Iraq War
Edited on Thu Jan-26-06 11:20 AM by American liberal
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/venezuela_social_forum

A leftist economic forum (World Social Forum) is taking place in Venezuala this week. Cindy Sheehan is speaking as is Chavez. Yahoo provided decent coverage. Too bad we won't hear about it in MSM.

On edit: Trying to get a link that works.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 11:22 AM
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1. That's focus for you
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American liberal Donating Member (915 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 11:37 AM
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2. whadda you mean? n/t
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American liberal Donating Member (915 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 11:08 PM
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3. updated link
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 05:46 AM
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4. the media is so full of crap sometimes
"Activists sang a communist hymn with fists raised"

I am sure they are referring to the song, the Internationale - also known as, Arise ye wretched of the Earth. This song is sung at socialist and social-democratic gatherings all over the world including the very moderate social-democratic parties of Western Europe. It is not explicitly a "communist hymn". The Internationale was written to celebrate the Paris Commune of March-May 1871: the first time workers took state power into their own hands. They established in the Commune a form of government more democratic than the world had ever seen before.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 06:00 AM
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5. Could you humm a few bars? I don't quite remember it...
surely I could name that tune in- oh, eight notes!
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 06:37 AM
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6. well since you asked
here is a link to here the music:

http://home.planet.nl/~elder180/internationale/engels.htm

The Internationale

Arise, you prisoners of starvation!
Arise, you wretched of the earth!
For justice thunders condemnation:
A better world's in birth!
No more tradition's chains shall bind us,
Arise, you slaves, no more in thrall!
The earth shall rise on new foundations:
We have been naught, we shall be all!

and in the final conflict;
Let each stand in their place!
The international working class
Shall be the human race.

We want no condescending saviors
To rule us from their judgment hall,
We workers ask not for their favors
Let us consult for all:
To make the thief disgorge his booty,
To free the spirit from its cell,
We must ourselves decide our duty,
We must decide and do it well.

and in the final conflict;
Let each stand in their place!
The international working class
Shall be the human race.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 11:20 AM
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7. Thanks, but oddly enough- i don't recognise it still...
guess i never heard it before. the lyrics are great. the tune could be catchier...

Thanks for the informative reply!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 11:52 AM
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11. Try the MP3 version sung in German by Hannes Wader
Edited on Sat Jan-28-06 12:33 PM by IndianaGreen
It beats the slow midi version you heard earlier.

Hannes Wader MP3

http://www.angelfire.com/pq/svechka/mp3.html

Internationale MP3 (2.3MB, 2:27, 128kbps) — first verse of Internationale sung in Russian, followed by the US anthem; by Metropolitan Opera Chorus & National Broadcasting Company Symphony Orchestra, conducted by Arturo Toscanini (New York, 1941(?); during the Cold War, the footage with Internationale was censored from the film made in 1943 of Toscanini conducting Verdi’s Hymn of the Nations with Internationale and Star Spangled Banner added at the and of Verdi’s score)

http://www.hymn.ru/internationale/index-en.html
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 11:39 AM
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10. Here is the Latin American version of The Internationale
La Internacional

Latin American version


Arriba, los pobres del mundo,
En pie, los esclavos sin pan,
Alcémonos todos al grito,
¡Viva la Internacional!
Del pasado hay que hacer añicos
Legión esclava en pie a vencer,
El mundo va a cambiar de base,
Los nada de hoy todo han de ser.

Agrupémonos todos
En la lucha final,
Se alzan los pueblos
¡Por la Internacional!
Agrupémonos todos
En la lucha final,
Y se alzan los pueblos
Por la Internacional.

El día que el triunfo alcancemos
Ni esclavos ni dueños habrá,
Los odios que al mundo envenenan
Al punto se extinguirán.
El hombre del hombre es hermano,
Derechos iguales tendrán,
La tierra será paraíso
Patria de la Humanidad.

Agrupémonos todos
En la lucha final,
Se alzan los pueblos
¡Por la Internacional!
Agrupémonos todos
En la lucha final,
Y se alzan los pueblos
Por la Internacional.

La Internacional

Cuban version


Arriba los pobres del mundo,
de pie los esclavos sin pan.
Y gritemos todos unidos:
Viva la Internacional!
Removamos todas las trabas
que oprimen al proletario.
Cambiemos al mundo de fase
hundiendo al imperio burgués.

Agrupémonos todos,
en la lucha final
y se alcen los pueblos
por la Internacional.

El día que el triunfo alcancemos
ni esclavos, ni hambrientos habrá.
La tierra será el paraíso
de toda la humanidad.
Que la tierra de todos sus frutos
y la dicha en nuestro hogar
el trabajo es el sostén de todos
que la abundancia hará gozar.

Agrupémonos todos,
en la lucha final
y se alcen los pueblos
por la Internacional.

http://home.planet.nl/~elder180/internationale/spaans.htm
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 11:25 AM
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8. It is the international workers anthem
It is played on May Day, International Workers Day, a holiday that is celebrated in every country of the world except the USA. Americans prefer to grill hot dogs on Labor Day, to celebrate their getting reamed by the capitalists during the prior year.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 11:35 AM
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9. 100,000 people at WSF in Caracas this week and next. Coverage:
Edited on Sat Jan-28-06 11:44 AM by Peace Patriot
1/27/06
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060124/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/venezuela_social_forum
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4645660.stm
http://news.ft.com/cms/s/e11b7406-8f86-11da-b430-0000779e2340.html (Financial Times--their coverage is a riot!)
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/world/3616793.html
http://www.granma.cu/ingles/2006/enero/vier27/06cinco.html

1/26/06
http://internacional.radiobras.gov.br/ingles/materia_i_2004.php?materia=253914&q=1&editoria=
http://internacional.radiobras.gov.br/ingles/materia_i_2004.php?materia=253787&q=1&editoria=
http://internacional.radiobras.gov.br/ingles/materia_i_2004.php?materia=253800&q=1&editoria=PO
http://internacional.radiobras.gov.br/ingles/materia_i_2004.php?materia=253804&q=1&editoria=
http://english.eluniversal.com/2006/01/25/en_pol_art_25A661599.shtml
http://english.eluniversal.com/2006/01/25/en_pol_art_25A661607.shtml
http://www.noriegaville.com/latam.php?subaction=showfull&id=1138165417&archive=&start_from=&ucat=18
http://www.politicalaffairs.net/article/articleview/2615/1/146/
http://news.pacificnews.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=8186833685553bbfcc643a15a2e47f56
http://www.noticias.info/asp/aspComunicados.asp?nid=139777&src=0
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4646022.stm
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle.asp?xfile=data/theworld/2006/January/theworld_January514.xml§ion=theworld
http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/?feed=TopNews&article=UPI-1-20060124-21574900-bc-venezuela-socialforum.xml
http://internacional.radiobras.gov.br/ingles/materia_i_2004.php?materia=254031&q=1&editoria=
http://washingtontimes.com/upi/20060124-094104-1666r.htm

Some excellent articles: http://venezuelanalysis.com/
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 12:22 PM
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12. Here's a superb article on South America--one of the best I've read:
http://venezuelanalysis.com/articles.php?artno=1654

"Latin America Shifts Left: It's the Economy," by Mark Weisbrot, Alternet

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It's not about the WSF but it sets the context.
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