Google, US seek showdown over search data - (AFP)

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Google, US seek showdown over search data Fri Jan 27, 9:33 PM ET - Yahoo News (AFP)

SAN FRANCISCO (AFP)- "Google and US government lawyers asked for a February courtroom showdown to settle whether the Internet search giant should be forced to hand over records of search inquiries.

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In what has sparked a fiery controversy about the privacy rights of Internet users, Google refused to comply last week with a subpoena ordering it to give the US Department of Justice a week's worth of records about online searches.

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Within days of being hailed a champion of online rights for standing up to the US government, Google was demonized for slipping into bed with Chinese government censors.

Google agreed to censor websites and content banned by China's propaganda chiefs in order to launch its Internet search service there on Wednesday."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060128/ts_afp/uscompanyjusticeit_060128010230

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1. You know every single corporations that does business with China

is guilty of supporting the human rights abuses of the regime.

That list is endless.

[applegrove]

2. More on Search Engines who ban in China.

http://news.com.com/No+booze+or+jokes+for+Googlers+in+China/2100-1030_3-6031727.html

[KainNero]

3. The USA

At least has a Bill of Rights and a Constitution (it's still there unless the Bush Admin somehow manages to destroy it) The Chinese don't have such a thing with their govt.

[applegrove]

5. Exactly. And all nations are trading with China. The Chinese know they

can be slow on human rights and have downright kidnapped and politically executed people - and the world will willingly invest. Google is just one of a 100,000 muli-national corporations in China.

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4. China Trade Surplus: Gusher Profits for U.S. Corporations -

China Trade Surplus: Gusher Profits for U.S. Corporations August 13, 2005

Charles Hugh Smith - Weblog


"Alarmist headlines blare the "bad news": China's trade surplus with the U.S. is at record highs. But if this is so bad for the U.S., why are U.S. corporate profits at record highs? Could the two facts be related? Of course they are. U.S. companies' manufacturing of goods in China is creating enormous profits, not for the Chinese but for American corporations.


As every American shopper knows, American companies are having just about everything made in China these days-- to the tune of about $230 billion a year. In doing so, they have slashed manufacturing costs in half or more, even including the cost of shipping. But have you ever noticed the price of these items dropping in half as a result of these cost savings? Of course not. The companies have been retaining the savings as corporate profits.

Just how big are corporate profits nowadays? Try $1.1 trillion--fully 10% of the entire U.S. GDP. As a result, U.S. corporations are sitting on a cash horde of some $634 billion, which is rising by tens of billions each year.

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But the elephant in the room no one talks about is the enormous U.S corporate profits being made by moving manufacturing to China. John Q. Citizen naively assumes China is making huge profits selling stuff to American consumers, but this is simply incorrect; how many items do we buy made by Chinese corporations? Virtually nothing; maybe a few million dollars' worth of Haier dorm-room fridges and some foodstuffs, but everything else is made in China either by or for American corporations.

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http://www.oftwominds.com/blogs/China-trade.html

[teryang]

6. The last two paragraphs are "legally irrevelant"

...but make for a good smear campaign by the hypocritical advocates of dictatorship and totalitarianism.

[applegrove]

7. Exactly. Why I posted the whole thing. And did much research on

trade with China this morn. I think we can thank the reporter (I'm serious here) for being honest about all the parameters about the story. Didn't seem to take sides - but sometimes just the raw info is important.

[Ian David]

8. Tell Google: Publish all Web Searches originating from The White House

Tell Google: Publish all Web Searches originating from The White House
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2406394&mesg_id=2406394