Times Online: Global warming 'bigger threat' than previously thought

[PhilipShore]

Times Online
Global warming 'bigger threat' than previously thought
Britain
January 30, 2006

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2016727,00.html

In a foreward to the new book Avoiding Dangerous Climate Change, Tony Blair warns that the world faces more serious challenges than previously thought:

"Climate change is the world’s greatest environmental challenge. It is now plain that the emission of greenhouse gases, associated with industrialisation and economic growth from a world population that has increased six-fold in 200 years, is causing global warming at a rate that is unsustainable.

"That is why I set climate change as one of the top priorities for the UK’s Presidency of the G8 and the European Union in 2005.

"Early in the year, to enhance understanding and appreciation of the science of climate change, we hosted an international meeting at the Hadley Centre in Exeter to address the big questions on which we need to pool the best available answers:

[Gato Moteado]

1. junk science!

that's what the freepers and other deranged repukes say.

blair should stick to real science, like intelligent design.

[shadowknows69]

2. Hello,

This is the kind of thing some of have been trying to tell the world for like 20+ years now. Leave it to humankind to procrastinate until its too late. You won't see the cockroaches lying down on the job when we're gone.

[hatrack]

3. Know what you can do, Tony? Go pound sand. Pound it with a mallet.

Pound it right up your ass, fucking bush-kissing WHORE!

It was YOU, Tony, who after years of dressing in green drag, came out at the latest climate conference slamming mandatory targets and going on and on and on how "voluntary" measures would be just fine and dandy.

FUCK YOU, BLAIR.

[Dogmudgeon]

6. The advantage whores have

He can convince the other whores.

When it comes down to survival, anything is better than dying, and if Tony Blair's faithless heart and rentable ass are capable of getting the news out, that's fine by me.

History will have the last word. It will either tell us how much of a two-faced cacchinator Tony was, or ... or none of us will be around to read it.

--p!

[mcscajun]

17. Cacchinator?

'Splain, please.

[Dogmudgeon]

20. Nasty, vile laughter

Sort of like loud, caffeine-driven cackling. Vultures are said to (figuratively) cacchinate.

The word itself has an evil quality to it.

--p!

[mcscajun]

23. Thanks. Nice mental image there.

:)

[hatrack]

24. Or harpies - which is kind of how I always imagine Blair

Squawking, flapping, shitting on the dinner table.

Oh, and cacchinating!

:toast:

[SpiralHawk]

4. "There is no mention of global climate change in the bible, therefore...

all of these reports of change must be fabricated by evil science. We all know science is whacko because Rush says so. Soon we will eliminate these dangerous scientists, and the liberals, and all of those schools where people are encourage to make observations and to think (another evil liberal plot)." - your benevolent and worshipful Republican Elite

[Auntie Bush]

14. Don't look for help from the Supreme Court! We're screwed!

Bush/corporations will pollute-someone will sue- courts will rule against corp - corp. takes to higher court - repeat, repeat, repeat- ends up in SC and corp wins...we/world loses! Simple!

[AnneD]

5. We have a NASA climate scientist...

that gave a speech about global warming and stated the this years long, active hurricane season is directly related to this. He was told by NASA media office (the department of free speech :sarcasm:) that from now on his and all NASA employee presentations have to go through their office. His objection...in a democracy, you need to make informed choices. Guess it is hard to listen when your fingers are in your ears and you are singing). They hate us for our freedoms.

[Massachusetts]

7. Adapt and get used to the climate change

The Genie is already out of the bottle.

[Kelvin Mace]

8. Didn't Blair reverse himself recently

and start siding with him Master on global warming?

[hatrack]

9. Yep - and here's some links

EDIT

Opening the meeting, UK environment secretary Margaret Beckett said the timetable on climate change was being dictated by nature, not politics. The two-day meeting brings the G8 group of industrialised countries alongside developing world nations. "Technology is essential to make the transition to a low-carbon economy and targets...have a vital role to play in driving forward that progress," Environment Secretary Margaret Beckett told delegates.

"There is more evidence that the oceans are warming, that a long-term reduction in arctic ice cover is accelerating and that the strength of hurricanes has increased in the last 30 years," she said. The discussions follow the climate agreement drawn up at July's G8 summit in Gleneagles, which emphasised the importance of climate-friendly technologies such as clean coal, nuclear power and renewables. "We face a timetable that is driven by nature, science and by the predicted effect of climate change on our world, not by our own negotiating processes," Mrs Beckett added.

At the weekend, Prime Minister Tony Blair called in a newspaper article for a new international consensus on tackling climate change built around "sound, rational science". While describing the United Nations as the "only forum in which formal negotiations on future international commitments take place", he has in recent weeks downplayed the impact of the Kyoto Protocol.

Mr Blair has expressed doubts that there will ever be another treaty which sets mandatory, binding targets on greenhouse gas emissions.

EDIT

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4394634.stm


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=115&topic_id=34182

"Tony Blair said science held the key to climate change as he urged caution over the belief that global warming could be beaten simply by setting targets. Addressing a summit of energy and environment ministers in London yesterday, he acknowledged there were divisions among world leaders over the Kyoto climate agreement.

He said targets to cut greenhouse gas emissions made some people "very nervous and very worried" because they feared their economies would suffer. Mr Blair said the world faced a "very important moment" over climate change and needed to work towards "a better, more sensitive set of mechanisms to deal with this problem".

He said the evidence of climate change was getting stronger and even those who doubted it accepted there were concerns over energy security and supply. (emphasis added)

Mr Blair added: "The solutions will come in the end, in part at least, through the private sector in developing the technology and science." But he said the issue would never be dealt with properly unless the world was able to combine the need for growth with "a proper and responsible attitude" towards the environment.

EDIT

http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/article324095...

"You scientists will come up with some shiny machine which will overthrow physical laws." Yeah, whatever, Tony.




http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=115&topic_id=34264

[RamboLiberal]

10. (Tony) Blair: Global Warming Is Advancing

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/01/30/D8FF7DR01.html

The threat posed by climate change may be greater than previously thought, and global warming is advancing at an unsustainable rate, Prime Minister Tony Blair said in a report published Monday.

The government-commissioned report collates evidence presented at a conference on climate change hosted by Britain's Meteorological Office last year. It says scientists now have "greater clarity and reduced uncertainty" about the impacts of climate change.

In a foreword, Blair said it was clear that "the risks of climate change may well be greater than we thought."

"It is now plain that the emission of greenhouse gases, associated with industrialization and economic growth from a world population that has increased six-fold in 200 years, is causing global warming at a rate that is unsustainable," he wrote.

[hatrack]

11. And what do you propose to do about it, Tony?

Oh, yeah, just as I thought - nothing.

Maybe we could do some more studies - wouldn't that be fun?

[mcscajun]

18. The global warming is sustainable. WE'RE Unsustainable.

I always go with George on this, George Carlin:

"The Planet isn't going anywhere. We are!"

[Lisa]

12. gee, Tony -- your "best friend" is still recommending adaptation

... rather than greenhouse gas abatement measures?

(The White House declared that the US would be pursuing an "adaptive" strategy to global warming. Basically -- they'll sit back and let it happen, then respond to any potential problems. Which worked really well with Katrina, of course.)

[Amonester]

15. Guess we can't count on little brother to start planning for levee

buildings all around the Florida peninsula.

Unless Helliburton's Execs request them... (and do zits, as usual)

[Amonester]

13. I guess Poodle Bliar wants to change the subject (maybe...

the news about his upcoming golden "retreat" at The Carlyle Group to thank him for his late years whorying to Big Oil is spreading too fast?)

Warming hits 'tipping point'

Siberia feels the heat It's a frozen peat bog the size of France and Germany combined, contains billions of tonnes of greenhouse gas and, for the first time since the ice age, it is melting

Ian Sample, science correspondent
Thursday August 11, 2005
The Guardian

A vast expanse of western Sibera is undergoing an unprecedented thaw that could dramatically increase the rate of global warming, climate scientists warn today.

Researchers who have recently returned from the region found that an area of permafrost spanning a million square kilometres - the size of France and Germany combined - has started to melt for the first time since it formed 11,000 years ago at the end of the last ice age.

The area, which covers the entire sub-Arctic region of western Siberia, is the world's largest frozen peat bog and scientists fear that as it thaws, it will release billions of tonnes of methane, a greenhouse gas 20 times more potent than carbon dioxide, into the atmosphere.

More:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/climatechange/story/0,12374,1546824,00.html

Edit: 'thank' instead of typo 'yjank'+

F*** you Bliar: I don't believe one word you say (and I'm not the only one).

[nolabels]

16. methane gas burns clean, maybe there would be a market for it if........

bottle it up and sell it :hurts:

First it gets hot, then comes the next Ice Age, we will all be gone by then anyway so why worry :shrug:

[mcscajun]

19. There'll be a big market for all that peat when the oil's gone.

Unfortunately, we may be gone, too.

[orleans]

21. how much money is blair guarenteed with the book contract

he wrote the forward he's getting a cut somewhere.

[this_side_up]

22. This Day In History (what a difference a party makes)

*Today's Quotes:*

We don't have to protect the environment - the Second Coming is at hand.

~James G. Watt, Secretary of the Interior (Reagan)~


Plans to protect air and water, wilderness and wildlife are in fact plans to protect man.

~Stewart L. Udall, Secretary of the Interior (Kennedy)~