Iraq war did not create wave of terrorism: Rumsfeld

[DoYouEverWonder]

MUNICH (Reuters) - U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said on Saturday terrorists had made Iraq the "central front" in their fight against the West but denied the U.S. invasion of the country had been a catalyst for terrorism.

"Iraq is the central front of the current war. And they have announced it. The terrorists have announced it," Rumsfeld told an annual security conference in Munich.

Eventually "they will move it elsewhere," he added.

Rumsfeld said radical Islamic terrorists were using Iraq as a training and recruiting ground, in the same way as they operated in
Afghanistan when the Taliban were in charge.

But he vehemently rejected any suggestion that Iraq had been a catalyst for a global wave of terrorist acts.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060204/pl_nm/security_rumsfeld_dc


Just more of Rummie's insanity. Don't even try to make sense of what he's saying because crazy people don't make sense.

[leftchick]

1. They are all insane

and imagine what the rest of the world thinks of us when they listen to condi, rummy, cheney and dipshit spew this nonsensical horseshit?

[sweetheart]

3. Bonkers wonkers konkers

These guys are really kooks,
Some silly men afraid of spooks,
Under their beds, over their heads,
Around behind, the 'known unknown' kind,
Saddam did it, magic voodoo
they've lost the plot, more war we need not.

[LynnTheDem]

8. That's what's so frigging EMBARRASSING! I don't want the world

to think *I* believe this total bullshit the US gov spews on a daily basis...I don't want the world to think *I* am that STUPID!

I don't want the world to think the majority of Americans are that stupid. The rest of the world makes jokes about Idiot Americans.

It's bloody embarrassing.

[leftchick]

19. Do they make fun of us in Canada?

wait, I think I know the answer. :(

[calimary]

41. Well, I do remember some story I read in which one Canadian described

life in his country as "living next door to Godzilla."

[TheBaldyMan]

2. Eventually the front-line will move to the next 'liberated' country

I gave up on the nutty boy making sense in the Reagan days.

[Disturbed]

4. Rumsfailed is a loon and a War Criminal.

If the USA was still Representative Democratic Republic Rummy would be serving life minus parole in Leavensworth.



Rumsfailed Admitted to Violating Geneva Convention

Rumsfailed admitted in public on TV that when CIA Director Tenet requested that an Iraqi prisoner be sent to a secret Afghan/US Prison that Rumsfailed did so. After four months a DOD Attorney stated that this was an illegal act. Rumsfailed then ordered that this prisoner be sent back to Abu Graihib but the prisoner was purposefully not listed at that location, also an illegal act. Rumsfeld also admitted to signing orders for tougher interogation methods which violated the Geneva Conventions.

Rumfailed has commited at least three violations of the Geneva Convention thereby also violations of The Constitution of the USA. Recently it has been found out that even more detainees were "ghost detainees". The fact that Rumsfailed and Tenet have not been charged speaks volumes. If Congress wishes to garner any respect they should move forward with Rep. Rangle's Impeachment Declaration of Rumsfailed and also prosecute Ex. CIA Tenet.

The US, Govt., Congress, and the Justice Dept no longer abide by the Geneva Convention or the Constitution of the USA.

[LynnTheDem]

5. Rummy; WRONG again.

US Figures Show Sharp Global Rise In Terrorism
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/04/26/AR2005042601623.html

United States: Losing the War on Terror
http://www.globalpolicy.org/empire/terrorwar/analysis/2004/aprilharder.htm

Evidence that the US May Be Losing the Global War on Terror
http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=1501

US: Three Years On, War on Terrorism Looks Like a Loser
http://ipsnews.net/interna.asp?idnews=25437

”We have a stronger jihadi presence in Iraq today than in March 2003,” noted Roger Cressey, the former director for Transnational Threats in Bush's National Security Council at a briefing at the libertarian Cato Institute earlier this week.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0911-01.htm

The 'War on Terrorism': Winning or Losing? Losing.
http://www.oxfordresearchgroup.org.uk/publications/briefings/winningorlosing.htm

Terror threat to US called 'significant' - Apr 27, 2005
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/04/27/terror.report /

Global terror attacks triple in 2004
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0428/dailyUpdate.html

Worldwide terrorism-related deaths on the rise
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5889435%20 /

US Losing the War on Terror in Iraq; The invasion of Iraq has increased, not decreased, the threat of terrorist attack
http://www.intellectualconservative.com/article2629.html

Occupation Made World Less Safe, Pro-War Institute Says
http://www.globalpolicy.org/empire/terrorwar/analysis/2004/0526iissreport.htm

Iraq Invasion Hurt War on Terror
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0719-10.htm

Musharraf: World more dangerous because of Iraq War
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/9/25/03544/7945

Blix Says Iraq War May Have Worsened Terror Threat
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0319-02.htm

Poll: Aussies, Brits, Italians say Iraq war increased terrorism
http://www.startribune.com/stories/1576/5027215.html

Iraq intervention increased threat of terrorism
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/archive/scoop/stories/c7/9d/200409100845.68f9c878.html

UK Government; Iraq war 'increased terror threat'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3451239.stm

Iraq war has swollen ranks of al Qaeda
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1063717,00.html

US State Department Corrects Report to Show Rise in Terrorism
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5264512 /

Iraq has become a terrorist spawning ground, CIA admits
http://www.smh.com.au/news/After-Saddam/Iraq-a-terrorist-spawning-ground-CIA-admits/2005/02/17/1108609349394.html?oneclick=true

Iraq Conflict Feeds International Terror Threat
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/location/story.cfm?l_id=8&ObjectID=10111455

[TheGunslinger]

7. Neocons: 0-for-infinity

[lebkuchen]

48. kick for Lynnthedem

[rodeodance]

6. and the professionals he is lecturing to---KNOW he belongs in the attic.

[maddezmom]

9. what a loon

I can't keep up with all the lies and propaganda from this fool.

[DoYouEverWonder]

10. I think they need to readjust his meds

He was spewing all over the place yesterday.

Here's another one:

Rumsfeld Compares Venezuela's Chavez to Hitler

(02.03.06 - AP) — Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld likened Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez to Adolf Hitler, reflecting continuing tension in relations between the United States and the Latin American government.

Rumsfeld, asked during a National Press Club appearance Thursday about indications of a deteriorating general relationship between Washington and parts of Latin America, said he believes such a characterization "misses the mark."

"We saw dictatorships there. And then we saw most of those countries, with the exception of Cuba, for the most part move towards democracies," he said. "We also saw corruption in that part of the world. And corruption is something that is corrosive of democracy."

The secretary acknowledged that "we've seen some populist leadership appealing to masses of people in those countries. And elections like Evo Morales in Bolivia take place that clearly are worrisome."

"I mean, we've got Chavez in Venezuela with a lot of oil money," Rumsfeld added. "He's a person who was elected legally — just as Adolf Hitler was elected legally — and then consolidated power and now is, of course, working closely with Fidel Castro and Mr. Morales and others."

http://www.fox5dc.com/_ezpost/data/35052.shtml


Okay, isn't it time for the men in white coats to come with straight jacket?

[maddezmom]

11. perhaps they need to adjust Gen Pace's as well

US `can beat' North Korea (Gen'l Pace)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2083772

[ovidsen]

12. Here's the problem with idiots like Rummy and his supporters

If you want to even try to debate them, you have to sink to their level of idiocy.

And then you're in real trouble, because they have more experience down there.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

13. Why is it I think that this is Rummy's theme....

http://www.mwscomp.com/sounds/mp3/brghtsd.mp3

[fshrink]

14. It just created 50,000 human time-bombs.

[calimary]

42. Frankly, we're lucky if 50,000 is all there is.

It's probably more like 50 MILLION.

[truthisfreedom]

15. total the terror attacks worldwide per day before the war. compare with

the total before the war.

no, that would be scientific... and the thugs have a war on science going on... so there is no way to know the truth.

end of story.

[WearyOne2]

16. this guy is as mad as meat axe..totally nuts

[tocqueville]

17. facts talk otherwise

anybody can run that graph on the MIPT database (international terrorism database)

http://www.tkb.org/Home.jsp

note the tremendous increase of terrorist incidents in the ME and Asia after 2003

[DinahMoeHum]

18. Did RummyDummy eat a big bowl of stupid for breakfast today?

Sheesh. Dumber than a bag of bricks.

:grr:

[fakeshemp]

20. Yeah...the terrorists just happened to RANDOMLY pick Iraq to focus their

operations--just by sticking a pin in a map blindfolded, perhaps? Rumsfeld is so full of shit it's almost hard to believe.

[wordpix2]

21. "they will move it elsewhere" & we'll have to follow the terror forever

to make the world safe for democracy. Nutjob

[DoYouEverWonder]

22. Even back in the 70's

You could see this asshole was nuts -

[Ohio Joe]

23. tap tap tap

Hello.... McFly... sheesh. Does this guy even listen to what he says.

[tabasco]

24. Hey we have to respect Rumsfeld's judgment!

I mean, he's been right about everything:

1. WMDs north, south, east and west of Tikrit. :dunce:
2. US forces greeted as liberators. :dunce:
3. Iraqi oil paying for the war. :dunce:
4. General Shinseki's plan has too many troops. :dunce:
5. Wave of democracy will transform Middle East. :dunce:

I mean, a man of such obvious ability and brilliance - who are we to question this man's judgment?? :crazy:

Just a bunch of anti-murkan libruls I suppose. :hi:

[grytpype]

37. 6. The war will last maybe six weeks, probably not six months.

Try six years. Or sixty years.

[norml]

25. Iraq war did not create wave of terrorism-Rumsfeld

Iraq war did not create wave of terrorism-Rumsfeld
04 Feb 2006 11:25:22 GMT

Source: Reuters

Background CRISIS PROFILE: Afghanistan still the ‘sick man’ of Asia


MORE
By Louis Charbonneau



MUNICH, Feb 4 (Reuters) - U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said on Saturday terrorists had made Iraq the "central front" in their fight against the West but denied the U.S. invasion of the country had been a catalyst for terrorism.

"Iraq is the central front of the current war. And they have announced it. The terrorists have announced it," Rumsfeld told an annual security conference in Munich.

Eventually "they will move it elsewhere", he added.

Rumsfeld said radical Islamic terrorists were using Iraq as a training and recruiting ground, in the same way as they operated in Afghanistan when the Taliban were in charge.

But he vehemently rejected any suggestion that Iraq had been a catalyst for a global wave of terrorist acts.

"Any argument that Iraq might have been a trigger is inconsistent with the facts," he said.


snip


http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L0461714.htm

[Selatius]

26. Talk to the people of Madrid, Rumsfeld

It is because of their government's entry into the Iraq War, a move that was widely unpopular with Spanish people, that led to their version of 9/11: The 3/11 bombings. Eventually, it was the Spanish people who removed their own government and replaced it with one that did obey the will of the people.

[applegrove]

27. Talk the the people of Iraq - Rumsfield.

[alarcojon]

28. Incredible chutzpah

Up is down. War is peace. Black is white.

[Mark E. Smith]

29. Rummy, now there's a credible source

I think his mother must have told him when he was just a lad that if he were to tell the truth about something his teeth would crack.

He's been lying ever since.

[Demeter]

30. Sure, Don, Whatever You Say

We'll get the duct tape and plastic sheeting out now, just in case somebody didn't hear you.

[LynnTheDem]

31. Rummy's just WRONG again.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2085697&mesg_id=2085731

[jarnocan]

32. more bu**sh**

and I bet the Muslims is not at all unhappy with the potential substantial nuclear threat by the United States- but really worried that Iran could make a weapon in 10 years or so.

[norml]

34. I like this part. (Eventually "they will move it elsewhere", he added.)

I wonder if he has any place (Iran/Venezuela) in mind for the "terrorists" to move to?

[alarcojon]

43. or Bolivia, perhaps?

The war on terra would blend right into the war on drugs. How convenient for Rummy and company.

[buddysmellgood]

33. He doesn't understand what a "fact" is. You can't make them up.

[cliss]

35. This man has been give FAR too much airtime.

The fact is, Rumsfailed has gotten used to publicity. They shove a microphone in front of his face, and off we go.

He opens his big mouth, and the lies just come pouring out. What REALLY surprises me, is that he's been able to get away with it for so long.

[gratuitous]

36. We used to intitutionalize a person when he got this delusional

Now, I'm not saying those were the good old days by any means, but wouldn't you like to see Rummy chased down by a couple of white-uniformed orderlies with butterfly nets?

[fujiyama]

38. Fuck you Rummy

I also find it funny that ththee State Dept condemns the comic in inciting violence, ignoring thee fact thhat the bombing and invading countries is inciting a lot more haatred.

[abex]

39. bushco brings terror everywhere it goes nt

[calimary]

40. Whatever he's smoking, he sure hasn't shared with any of us!

Must be POWERFULLY good stuff. Probably got it from the Oval Office.

Delusions of grandeur. On the rocks. And up in smoke.

[daleo]

44. So, Rumsfeld is finally admitting it

By denying it.

[WhiteTara]

45. May he rot in hell

I am so sick of that cruel, devious, evil POS running our military. May all the hounds of hell chase him through eternity.

[MurrayDelph]

46. This just in: Word Missing from headline

It should read

"Iraq war did not create wave of Terrorism: Rumsfeld Did"

[classysassy]

47. "The Donald Duck"

Don no one believes your Bushit,so close your pie hole.

[Auntie Bush]

49. Tell me? Has Rummy the dummy ever been right about ANYTHING?

I honest and truly can't think of a single thing!!!!!!
Second thought...that goes for the WHOLE bush* cabal.
They sure suck when it comes to strategy (and everything else)