GOP Chairman: Hillary Shows Lot of Anger

[IDemo]

WASHINGTON - Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, a potential presidential contender in 2008, "seems to have a lot of anger" and voters usually do not send angry candidates to the White House, the Republican Party chairman said Sunday.

"When you think of the level of anger, I'm not sure it's what Americans want," said Ken Mehlman, head of the Republican National Committee.

Mehlman cited the New York senator's remarks on Martin Luther King Day in which she called the Bush administration "one of the worst" in history and compared the Republican-controlled House to a plantation where opposing voices are silenced.

"I don't think the American people, if you look historically, elect angry candidates. And whether it's the comments about the plantation or the worst administration in history, Hillary Clinton seems to have a lot of anger," Mehlman told ABC's "This Week."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-02-05-gop-chairman_x.htm

[Fovea]

1. As compared to the Buddah like serenity of

Tom Delay, Karl Rove, and Bill Frist.

[IDemo]

12. Myself, I enjoy listening to the lighthearted musings of Dick Cheney

:puke:

[Grateful for Hope]

33. such a way with words!

LOL!!

[CatWoman]

59. your cats are so exotic looking

exquisite, even.

they are simply beautiful.

[Grateful for Hope]

68. Thank you!

but, I think it may be the photos. BTW, your cats are also quite beautiful. Aren't cats the most amazing creatures? I feel very blessed having my little guys.

[raccoon]

101. Exactly, Cheney is the poster idiot of anger! nt

[ixion]

19. my response exactly

such paragons of enlightenment, those rethugs. :eyes:

[SpiralHawk]

28. Angry men are totally cool

It's angry women who must be put in their place.

[emulatorloo]

35. too simple -- you forget Howard Dean. Kerry also described as "angry"

anybody who is against the Repugs is mischaracterized as angry. it is "angry" Democrats who must be destroyed.

[trogdor]

98. Thank you.

Why must they always use this insultingly trite boilerplate bullshit? Even more important, why does it continue to work? Are we not smarter than that? Apparently not.

If I were HRC, I'd be hitting the "insultingly trite boilerplate" button like I was playing a videogame.

[bunkerbuster1]

103. Angry and shrill and, doggone it, UPPITY!

can't have uppity women, nosir.

[LiberalFighter]

66. I despise people who are smug about themselves toward others!!

[yurbud]

84. Frist gets mad? He always looks like he's about to cry

I saw George Stephenopolis almost reduce him to tears by pressing him about a lie about AIDS being transmitted through tears in an abstinence only program he supports. Frist would not commit one way or another on whether he agreed it could be transmitted that way, and Stephenopolis reminded him he was a doctor.

He got that "deer in the headlights" look Quayle used to get, only more like a whipped dog that saw another beating coming.

I hope that guy runs for president.

[wordpix]

108. don't forget that paragon of serenity now, McCain, LOL

[GOPNotForMe]

2. Ha ha is this the new anti-Hillary GOP talking point?

You so stupid, Ken.

[msongs]

21. republican "framing" has a great track record. ask kerry.

once the frame is fixed, it is difficult to undo it.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm

[Jawja]

63. If it is, the Dems should quickly respond:

"you're DAMN RIGHT we're angry! We believe that the RULE OF LAW applies to EVERYONE, not to just a DEM President, but to George W. Bush, a Repug Pres, as WELL! We're very angry with the hypocricy of the GOP on this issue."

I think that point ought to be drummed home. If they want to play the "Dems or ______ is ANGRY," the response should clarify that there is something for every American to be angry about.

[bluedeminredstate]

3. Is he blind?

Has he missed his chimp master beating and pounding the podium as he defends himself in front of his prescreenedd audiences? What an ass!

[raysr]

57. I heard he got

his "anus bleached" (not really, but it could have happened). It's a new porn thing I read in a "Morford" column.

[silvermachine]

95. Not blind...

...just a hypocrite. Although I suppose that could be looked at as a sort of blindness.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

4. The only person who pisses me off faster than Pat Robertson is this

slimy piece of filth. He has a great memory and knows all the post-polling talking points. He interrupts, he lies, he is a smug, arrogant prostitute.

[Cocoa]

5. he's calling her a bitch

of course he can't say the word, but that's what he's doing, and that's how they're going to fight Hillary.

[meegbear]

16. BINGO!!

[Gormy Cuss]

26. Absolutely. Watch for the part two assault on her lacking the femininity

to keep the Clenis in check.

[mother earth]

6. Mehlman needs a reality check!

Hillary is merely echoing the feelings of the real moral majority in this country. I wish more in the Senate and Congress would join her and speak up and out every opportunity they get! The only ones who aren't angry these days have their head in the sand or elsewhere.

[raysr]

58. Hillary needs to blindside

him with "And YOU represent the party with moral values?"

[BlueManDude]

7. and causing worldwide chaos and misery displays what qualities?

lord knows what caused w to be rotten.

[atommom]

8. There are many, many angry politicians out there. That isn't unusual.

I think he's trying, in an oblique way, to paint Hillary as an angry, strident woman ... which, sadly, might still turn off a number of voters.

[Wilms]

9. Oh man. I'm gonna get it.

Here goes. He's right. That, or she fakes outrage.

[atommom]

11. Is she that much angrier than other politicians? I'm not convinced that

she is.

[Wilms]

14. I agree with you, there.

I don't like to listen to many of them.

[William769]

13. Speaking of hatred...

[Wilms]

17. Oh, I clearly expressed HATRED in my post.

:eyes:

[Webster Green]

10. She ain't alone Ken, you fucking asshole!

Lots of us are angry.

Our numbers are growing daily.

Watch our motherfucker!:mad:

[raysr]

61. I'm sure she has more composure

than I would. I'm so angry it's consuming my life.

[atommom]

15. Just to throw one more thing into the mix, I do have a lot of problems w/

Hillary's politics. But I think this is a ridiculous weapon to use against her. Especially given the level of grandstanding and tantrum-throwing we've seen from the other party.

[sallyseven]

18. Isn't Mehlman just too sweet. So helpful. that is the line she

is full of anger. So are we all. What an ass.

[IDemo]

20. Dr. Phil, move over. Meet Dr. Mehlman n/t

[Cocoa]

22. she's angry at Bill

and she's going to take it out on US.

That's the way Mehlman is trying to get us to see Hillary.

[IDemo]

25. She just needs to buy some books, listen to a few tapes,

maybe take up yoga...

Oh, and she needs to forget everything that has happened to this country over the past 5 years. That too.

[Wilms]

27. Which Bill is she angry about.

Surely not the Bankruptcy Bill. :shrug:

[wordpix]

109. she ought to be angry about the budget bill---an outrage!

[cali]

23. Sexism rears its ugly head

in the form of the repulsive Mehlman. That's clearly what this is. Angry women=unstable women who are unfit to be commander in chief.

[emulatorloo]

36. it is not sexism - they mischaracterize all who oppose them as "angry"

Kerry, Dean, Harry Reid, etc are not women. But GOOP has called them all angry

[wordpix2]

76. another repuke name-calling ploy and we should continue to call them

what they are: crooks, liars, corrupt, and engaged in impeachable offenses including the Selling of America, corporate cronyism, illegal spying and starting a war under false pretenses.

[wordpix]

107. especially if they're women---women are supposed to be sweet, smiley

and offer homebaked cookies when they're senators, or anything else

[TankLV]

24. The framing has begun.

But she won't be the candidate - too many negatives for us and she's needed in NY as the effective senator she has become.

And once they discover we have picked another choice, they will shift their BS spin to that candidate.

I could care less what any repuke, let alone that lying asswipe has to say.

[SillyGoose]

29. Wow. They must be really scared of Hillary if they're starting this crap

already. Can you imagine what a sleazy, nasty campaign they would run against her if she did run in '08?

Memo to Mehlman: Hillary is not alone her anger...there's a lot of really POed people out there right now.

[cap]

30. anger is not an inappropriate response

it's not pretty; but it is not inappropriate for what has happened to people.

I guess the seniors being jerked about on Medicare have no reason to be angry.
Nor the folks who've been downsized;
Nor the folks down in New Orleans and the Gulf Coast;
Nor the women who are losing the rights to abortion and potentially the rights to be independent people;
Nor the government workers being made to lie on behalf of this administration;
Nor the folks in the security services who dont want to spy on their fellow Americans;
Nor the folks who are losing their pension and health care;
Nor the overstretched military, etc.
No reason to be upset whatsovever.

Let's take anger and own it -- it's righteous indignation!

[mitchum]

31. Who cares what that dishonest CLOSETED mouthpiece thinks?

Fuck you, Kenny (just a figure of speech)
She's not angry enough

[Kierkegaard]

32. This is an empty argument, and a stupid one.

First, I don't see any evidence to support his assumptions. Where is this 'historical' evidence on angry candidates? What is considered angry? How often do you have to show anger to deserve this label? She, along with every other reasonable American, has every right to be pissed off at these fascist *&#$^#*$#&'s. If she was complacent about their reign of terror, I would be even LESS inclined to support her.

I know the Punks try really hard to label their opponents with baseless, empty arguments that are dizzying in their stupidity to prevent them from being completely debunked, thereby hanging an albatross around that person's neck. This one is just too far off the planet. Maybe they'll drag out that playful puppy campaign ad again?

[Canuckistanian]

A gay man spouting extreme misogyny

Never thought I'd see that.

[Overseas]

34. RNC promotes TRANQUILIZERS -- he is calm so he is right

The RNC really does push the notion that absence of passion equals correctness. He is calm so he is right. As long as you take enough Valium-- you win! Haldol for President !!

Have you noticed that whole simplistic approach they take ? He calm-- he like parent-- he right. Other guy shouty--- other guy angry-- other guy wrong.

[dave29]

37. Ken Mehlman, freelance Psychologist

The GOP is so compassionate, helping us to see our own foibles.

[madrchsod]

38. they really want her to run for president

she would be one of the worse democratic canidates ever to run and that is what they are hoping for.

[Cocoa]

39. there go Condi's chances...

"I don't think the American people, if you look historically, elect angry candidates."




Many more angry Condi photos here

[Auntie Bush]

40. Hypocrites! Now they are jumping on the McCain bandwagon

and they complained he wasn't fit for office in 2000 because he was soooooo angry and had no control of his temper. But now he is an example of self control. Besides...did they ever stop to think we Democrats have something to be angry about? No, I forgot...they don't think...they just obey orders like sheep.

[wysiwyg]

41. Republicans prefer a passive opposition

The Democrats have given them exactly that far too often. The GOP wants to run against Alan Colmes.

[Virginia Dare]

42. Okay, he's officially scraping the bottom of the cess pool

of GOP talking points. His ass should be fired.

[MODemocrat]

43. Yes Mehlman, and you have treated her with such high regard

I just might get angry if you dipwads kept calling me a bitch, (that is probably the nicest thing you've called her.) You love Ann Coulter and look at the violence she spews out. Hell, she even received awards for her trash.
What's the matter with you swift boat lovers; can't you take a little bit of what you dish out? Your side were first to use the comments about the plantation against the democrats!!!!!!
:+ :puke: :nopity:

[BlueStater]

44. Since she isn't going to be our nominee it doesn't matter what he thinks

Not that it would even if she was. I'm just sick of the friggin' media and their certainty that Hillary is going to win the nomination.

[kayice]

45. Ken needs to come spend a few days with this angry woman....

I'll show him what anger really is--- hope the bastard doesn't eat much or well, want to stay very warm, need medical attention, expect to drive around in anything but a clunker or expect the 'Ritz'.

(Then I'll introduce him to my sister who just lost her job after 27 years to Mexico.)

[Lefty48197]

46. You're right Ken, American's prefer idiots for President

:crazy:

[dysfunctional press]

47. the whole puke takeover of congress in '94 was based on anger-

voters want to see passion in their representatives

[LynnTheDem]

48. "A dictatorship would be a lot easier, as long as I was the dictator."

Yeah, a fascist yellowbelly fuckwad like bush is SOOO much better than anger.

Rightwingnuts; stupidest MFe3rs on the planet.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

49. Hmmm...same "anger management" bullshit they pulled on Howard Dean.

Take out EVERY reference to Hillary, SUBSTITUTE Dean, and it's the SAME KEN MEHLMAN TALKING ACTION FIGURE BULLSHIT.



:grr:

[JudyM]

67. Yes, and similar to their cries that we're 'obstructionist.' Always

trying to focus the public on appearances rather than on the substantive content of what we're about.

[aquart]

50. Riiiight. Unseemly Dems are mad about something.

Whatever could it be?

[951-Riverside]

51. Other than making faces she isnt nearly angry enough IMO

[xxqqqzme]

52. Hey, Ken you want 2 see angry???

stop by sometime.


Oh, and whats "Go fuck yourself, Leahy" a love note?

[brentspeak]

53. We already know Hillary won't be getting the nomination

This is just the GOP trying to rally the troops behind Hillary, hoping to accomplish the impossible and make her the nominee. Nice try, though.

[Jersey Ginny]

89. Amen-no Hillary

I don't really believe Hillary support the Iraq war, but she says that she does. I don't really believe that she is against marriage equality or "gay marriage" but she says she is. She is a typical spineless donkey that panders to the polls. There, of course, is a inkling of truth to this statement, which makes it difficult to combat. Hillary is not easy going on the public stage. She appears uptight and on guard and measured all the time. There are other women politicians who don't come off that way, like Ann Richards (yes, they smeared her too, but she was personable and electable). Someone with downhome charm is electable. Kerry had the same problem as Hillary, IMO. Good guy but not someone you'd have a burger with, like Bubba Clinton.

[niallmac]

94. Fair thumb nail IMHO

So by my read of these posts am I too understand that most here accept that Hillary is an angry progressive? I mean my impression is that her every action is the result of having determined the most common denominator via poll watching of her voting pool be it word or action that will result in the most votes.(was that a sentence?)
Hill is calculating maybe but not exactly fulminating as I see it.

[applegrove]

54. We should all be as smilie as Rove, as Sunny as Bush, as impish

as Rummy, as half-smiling as Cheney - and then the world will be fine.

Wait a second! They are in power. That is why we are mad. They refuse to govern. And play the geopolitics like some mad piano maestro where smashing every note - comes with a little peddle actions under the table.. to extend the pain of each action as long as possible. When they play flats - fires erupt in the middle east; sharpes, bombs explode civilians.

And Mehlman stands at the entryway to this disastrous and says - tickets - see a great show -tickets. Come on - it's fun!

[chelsea0011]

55. This is code for PMS. The war begins.

[alarimer]

56. The GOP is going to feel the anger of the American people

Come November, bet on it. People are pissed off at this group of incompetent, corrupt clowns. We're mad as hell and not going to take it anymore. If Sen. Clinton is angry, it is a righteous anger, fully justified by the machinations of this administration.

[raysr]

60. How could ANYONE NOT be

angry? If the "American" people can't handle anger, I guess they can't handle fear either. Are we really perceived as such fools?

[cornermouse]

62. And the point he's attempting to make is?????????

When it comes to what the republicans have and are still doing to My Country, I feel a lot of anger too. More than Hillary, I suspect.

Mehlman can stick it.

[Tom Joad]

64. Is it because anti-war people can't stand her too?

[applegrove]

65. The old sociopath's trick. Attack someone till they are wounded and

angry & lash out - and then get people to judge them on it.

Anger is an adult reaction to injustice and manipulation.

Apparently, according to the GOP, the only valid anger in the world is the anger Xtians on the right feel towards to gay people who they don't know.. getting married.

[pinniped]

69. Funny, * is part of the biggest sociopathic families in Merka.

He sure lived up the the name.

Rule #1:

Accuse others of the shit you do.

[HuffleClaw]

70. "a lot of anger" ?

hmmm. usually when its a woman involved, isn't the usual adjective something like 'shrill'?

[buddysmellgood]

71. Think again Mehlman. People want someone to reflect their anger. It won't

be Hillary, but you'll feel it all right.

[Vogon_Glory]

72. Republicans Have Reason To Fear Angry Democrats

Considering the crap that the right wing and its tools in the Republcian Party have pulled for more than the last decade or so, Republicans have reason to fear angry Democrats. A reckoning with these (people) is long overdue.

I hope that enough voters have noticed that they've been given the short end of the stick by the faction in power and give into their anger, too.

[KingFlorez]

73. No, No, He has her confused with his ugly mother

Who had him by some sort of animal

[Triana]

74. And this is a problem....WHY?

http://www.infoshop.org/inews/article.php?story=04/12/30/0474464

[Lorien]

75. He said the same thing about Dean

another "talking point" that I'm sure the MSM will begin parroting. :eyes:

[Justice Is Comin]

77. Mehlman shouldn't you

be looking for a trouser snake you can gum ?

[NVMojo]

78. oh, the angry woman stereotype coming from a corrupt Repuke

[demgrrrll]

79. Interesting projection. nt

.

[6000eliot]

80. I wonder how much hidden resentment results

from having to hide your homosexuality in the closet, Ken.

[jsamuel]

81. trying to psyche us out - when your opponent says that what you are doing

to oppose them is wrong, chances are your doing a really good job at it!

[BenDavid]

82. Oh really! The problem

those on the right have with Hillary is she will fight back. She will not stand and take their shit. She will respond to them unlike the last two candidates we had. The problem the gopists has, they do not understand that about 60 to 65% of Americans are mad as hell too...Give me hell Hillary and win reelection and then you can decide whether you want to be President....One thing about it, and this is to all dems, if she wins the nomination at least we will have a candidate that will speak up and speak out often. I would really like to see this fight between her and any right wing they throw out there.....

[yurbud]

83. I'm not a fan of Hillary's but the GOP is playing anger card too often

They used it here in California on the secretary of state who called diebold the liars and crooks that they are, they used it on Howard Dean, they are trying to use it on Elliot Spitzer, and now Hillary.

Someone should ask him if President Bush ever loses his temper, but hook his nuts up to a lie detector before you let him answer.

[karynnj]

97. Don't forget Al Gore - he wasn't running for anything, but they

very successfully changed the perception of a long term public servant, who was criticised for things like being wooden, very wonky, serious and someone who delves deeply into issues (uhm, shouldn't most of these have been positives?) inot someone so sngry he was nearly insane. (obviously not true.)

They've had trouble capturing any anger that looks over the top with Kerry, so they simply portray him as ridiculous. Kerry has given plenty of angry Senate speeches, but as in 1971, he still looks and sounds in control.

The point is diminishing ALL possible Democratic leaders.

[truthisfreedom]

85. how about this angry candidate?

[JCMach1]

86. GOP talking point: "Hillary is a bitch"

You will see more of this as time goes on!

[OKthatsIT]

90. yup...SPIN away. CROOKS and LIARS tell us what we're thinking.

GIVE I A BREAK.

[SHRED]

87. An old trick:

Call it "anger" and then question a person's stability next.

Talk about anger; what about all those RW'ers who justified the Iraq invasion as blood letting for 9/11?
Even though they weren't involved you still looked at the region, ignorantly, as all the same, you know, "just a bunch of ragheads".
Admit it you RW rascist nutjobs who read this (lurkers).

[leesa]

88. Funny. Kenny always trots this one out when he's desperate

[CBHagman]

91. Oh, no, not that old chestnut.

:eyes: More than two decades ago, I listened to some pasty-faced South Carolina man kvetch about how angry and unhappy feminists were. :eyes:

As usual, this is a case of projection. The GOP leadership attributes all virtues to itself and projects all its sins, evil, foibles, stupidity, etc., onto other people, preferably opponents. Remember, this is the party that gets what it wants and then seeks revenge. :shrug: Most recent case in point: Senator Jon Kyl (R-AZ) threatening vengeance against Democrats following Alito being confirmed to the Supreme Court. SAY WHAT?????

[superconnected]

92. 1st dose of extreme right wing hypocrisy for the day.

[DeepModem Mom]

93. DeepModem Mom Shows Lot of Anger --

And Ken might be surprised how many voters are showing anger.

[Beausoir]

96. How could he see anything through that closet door?

[Roland99]

100. Zing!

:D

[Roland99]

99. More reframing from Meelyman. And Hillary represents the far-left????

AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!

[baldguy]

102. Mehlman & the necrocons don't get angry.

They're the type that chuckle at the misfortune of others. And they've caused SO MUCH misfortune lately...

[regnaD kciN]

104. I assume they'll be calling her "hysterical" next...

:eyes:

[bleedingheart]

105. Truman wasn't exactly Mr. Happy...

so I don't know what the hell they are talking about...he would spit the word Republican.

[truthisfreedom]

106. we're mad as hell, and we're not going to fucking take it anymore. right?

who's with me?

[QC]

110. Mehlman shows a lot of bitter closetqueen characteristics. n/t