McCain flames Obama

[Algorem]

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/news_theswamp/2006/02/mccain_flames_o.html
Posted by Frank James at 4:42 pm CST

Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) has apparently just been introduced the infamous temper of Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.)

In a flaming letter, McCain accuses Obama of “disingenuousness” for allegedly backing out of a commitment he made to McCain to participate in a bipartisan effort at lobbying reform.


My colleague Jeff Zeleny is working on a story for tomorrow’s Chicago Tribune and is trying to nail down the details of what exactly happened between McCain and Obama. We are also working to get a response from Obama's office.

But whatever the details, it’s clear that one of the Senate’s biggest celebrities has gotten on the wrong side of another high-wattage senator...



(Gloria Borger was reporting this to Bob Schieffer on CBS Evening News tonight,but I can't find that. I think she said Obama sent a letter back to McCain saying he had no idea what prompted McCain's response.)

[fooj]

1. Maybe it'll shake some sense into him.

Peace.

[Charlie Brown]

2. McCain smash! n/t

[zbdent]

16. Nope - Stevens

AK . . .

[blm]

3. McCain has some nerve spouting off like that - he's a hypocrite when it

comes to sticking by his word.

[RobertSeattle]

4. BrokeMcCain Mountain

[Auntie Bush]

15. LOL n/t

[Judi Lynn]

20. That's possibly the most embarrassing photo every published of a

politician. It very nearly triggers a gag reflex.

[wordpix2]

29. "nice deal, George, first you're Pres and then I am"

[spotbird]

33. He knows by now that Obama

will apologize for offending him.

Obama is served double strength spiked Koolaide for breakfast to keep him in line.

[Beausoir]

43. "I wish I could quit you!"

[w13rd0]

5. Any measures...

...McCain tries to push regarding lobbying reform, as demonstrated by his recent actions, is complete bullshit.

[biscotti]

6. For some unknown

reason I got a mailer from McCain last week. It immediately was torn in bits and pieces and filed in #13.
That picture of him hugging * is so disturbing. :puke:

[hlthe2b]

7. I'm willing to bet, Barack did agree to work with McCain...

in his idealistic naivete'. It is likely that Reid put the kabash on that, knowing that it would be a set up to diffuse the potent scandal effect hitting home for the Repugs. I'm betting...

Barack needs to learn these lessons and fast... Does he not see what has become of Joe Lieber(liar)man?

[LynneSin]

8. You know what, McCain's last attempt at reform made it even worse

I think the McCain/Feingold campaign reform looked really great on paper but basically made it easier for money to come in through other sources. Sure, now we know which campaign ads are coming from the candidate as oppose to special interest groups. But the money is just flooding into these special interest groups making the whole purpose of the bill pretty much moot.

I hardly trust anyone with Lobbying reform but I think it's best that democrats put together their own bill and if it doesn't get passed then Reid & Pelosi should have every democrat sign an agreement to uphold the rules within that bill.

[mourningdove92]

9. If Senator Obama agreed to support it and has now

changed his mind, he must have a good reason. Blast away McCain, you will be giving Obama a platform to say exactly why he disagrees with your so called reform.

[MasonJar]

10. McCain is just another war-mongering hypocrite

[emulatorloo]

11. in my dictionary, “disingenuousness” is a synonym for "Republican"

ok, a little rough, but you get my drift.

These slime -- including McCain -- will do and say ANYTHING in an attempt to bamboozle people.

[kayice]

12. I seen that....McCain sounds as stupid as he did clapping madly

during Chimp's State of the Union speech. :applause: You cannot believe a word of outta McCain's mouth anymore either.

[Fleshdancer]

13. According to news, Obama's response was: What are you talking about?

I can't remember if it was on CNN or MSNBC and I can't find a link to save my life, but the woman reporting the letter exchange said she just received Obama's response. For the most part, it said he had no idea what McCain was talking about.

:rofl:

[wordpix2]

30. if that's true, forget my question: Why did Obama back out?

[Mithras61]

14. After having read both letters, it appears to ME that...

the posturing, bloviating blow hard is McCain! Obama agreed in private & in his letter that reform was important, and listened while McCain told him what he thought was needed, and then went and listened to his paty's leadership (such as it is) and discovered that the Dems actually DO have a plan, and that surprisingly enough, it includes everything that McCain wants adn more! Now McCain is peeved because Obama chose to support his own party's measures instead of McCain's.

How many other politicians support McCain's measure? The story doesn't say, but I'd bet it isn't 60. Obama's supporting one that 40 other Dems support. It isn't a majority, but it's a damn sight better than what we could muster on Alito!

[orleans]

48. agree! and i think the part that tweaked mccain was when obama

wrote: "i know you have expressed an interest in creating a task force to further study and discuss these matters..."

and that really pissed off mccain because he played it back:
"You commented in your letter about my "interest in creating a task force to further study" this issue, as if to suggest i support delaying the consideration of much-needed reforms..." blablaBLA

let this be a lesson: stay away from psycho mccain.

someone further down on the thread said he's probably pissed because he was counting on having his name connected with obama's in 2008 and i believe that could also be true.

so basically mccain is pissed because obama decided to stick with dems (good move obama!) and mccain feels snubbed. too bad. and the bipartisan support mccain brags about is lieberman and bill nelson? sure, real bipartisan there.

[zbdent]

17. Maybe Obama backed out of the bipartisan effort

when McCain backed out of really reforming lobbying . . .

[EFerrari]

18. And why would Obama want to be part of the

McCain fakery?

[AX10]

19. Shut up McCain! You are a ZERO.

Barack Obama is the bright future of America.

[kurth]

21. McCain is no patriot

He's no different than every Bush ass licker in the GOP. Everything he does is for "McCain for President - 2008".

[Psephos]

28. I'm not a McCain fan, but POWs get patriot status in my book

As for what he does as a politician - heh. Might as well get mad at a dog because it barks and growls. Umm, that's what dogs *do*.

So let's call him a dog (like the rest of the Senate) and move on.

Peace.

[wordpix2]

31. he's one of the better repugs

[spotbird]

35. Mad dogs are insane all the time

McCain worships at the God Republican. He is no longer a patriot.

[speedoo]

39. Anybody who licks the Coward's ass is no patriot.

I'll grant him former patriot status but that's it.

He is licking the ass of the man who has sent thousands to their death in Iraq including nearly 2,300 US soldiers. By lying.

McCain, like Powell, has sold his soul, and his patriotism.

[wordpix2]

40. ewww, what a graphic image-yuck

[speedoo]

44. yuck is an apt word for McCain.

and that's being kind.

[Garbo 2004]

22. And McCain's public release of his letter was an act not of self promotion

and partisanship, but only in the interests of good government? Oh yeah. Right.

Anyone else recall that McCain many years ago was one of the "Keating Five?" Here's one account: http://www.azcentral.com/specials/special39/articles/1003mccainbook5.html

[pinniped]

23. When is that GOP punk going to call this chump angry?

?

[brentspeak]

24. The same McCain who always badmouths Bush's legislation, but then

invariably votes for it, anyway?

[rodeodance]

25. Hil is emotional, now McCain is emotional--and both are 08 runners. guess

this cancels out attachs?

[wordpix2]

32. McCain is so rabidly angry in this letter I would not like to see him pres

[still_one]

26. I will tell you what prompted McCain's response

the same thing that prompted him to vote against making Martin Luther King a national holiday

MACAIN IS A RACIST!!!

[0007]

27. That's pretty lame....The day will come when McCain will be

hugging Obama. The more John is abused the more he loves it!


[sadiesworld]

34. Poor McCain...

I'm sure visions of '08 speeches linking his name to Obama's had been dancing is his head.

[applegrove]

36. Will McCain swiftboat Obama. Maybe say he fathered a black child?

:rofl:

McCain needs to shut up.

He got over being switboated (he claims) in three weeks. That was before Bush had officially gotten the nomination.

I think Obama should just not talk to McCain for three weeks. And then - he'll be over it.

[humbled_opinion]

37. WoW...

"McCain accuses Obama of “disingenuousness"

Now I would have to say that that is like the "Pot calling the Kettle Black"...

[JI7]

38. media whoring for McCain again

McCain is probably jealous of Obama and is trying to spread some nasty shit about him as he did with Kerry.

[Cocoa]

41. McCain forgot his sarcasm smiley

:sarcasm:

[KittyWampus]

42. WAIT! I thought is was Dems Like Hillary & Dean Who Were ANGRY!

:rofl:

Will the mediawhores do shows about how Angry McCain is and if his Anger will hurt his run for POTUS?

[Rex]

45. McCain = Mini MeBush

"I wuv u daddy!"

[Roland99]

46. Text of McCain letter to Obama >>>>>>>>

Text of the letter from Sen. McCain to Sen. Obama
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-060206mcainlettertext,1,7970470.story?coll=chi-news-hed

Dear Senator Obama:

I would like to apologize to you for assuming that your private assurances to me regarding your desire to cooperate in our efforts to negotiate bipartisan lobbying reform legislation were sincere. When you approached me and insisted that despite your leadership's preference to use the issue to gain a political advantage in the 2006 elections, you were personally committed to achieving a result that would reflect credit on the entire Senate and offer the country a better example of political leadership, I concluded your professed concern for the institution and the public interest was genuine and admirable. Thank you for disabusing me of such notions with your letter to me dated February 2, 2006, which explained your decision to withdraw from our bipartisan discussions. I'm embarrassed to admit that after all these years in politics I failed to interpret your previous assurances as typical rhetorical gloss routinely used in politics to make self-interested partisan posturing appear more noble. Again, sorry for the confusion, but please be assured I won't make the same mistake again.

As you know, the Majority Leader has asked Chairman Collins to hold hearings and mark up a bill for floor consideration in early March. I fully support such timely action and I am confident that, together with Senator Lieberman, the Committee on Governmental Affairs will report out a meaningful, bipartisan bill.

You commented in your letter about my "interest in creating a task force to further study" this issue, as if to suggest I support delaying the consideration of much-needed reforms rather than allowing the committees of jurisdiction to hold hearings on the matter. Nothing could be further from the truth. The timely findings of a bipartisan working group could be very helpful to the committee in formulating legislation that will be reported to the full Senate. Since you are new to the Senate, you may not be aware of the fact that I have always supported fully the regular committee and legislative process in the Senate, and routinely urge Committee Chairmen to hold hearings on important issues. In fact, I urged Senator Collins to schedule a hearing upon the Senate's return in January.

Furthermore, I have consistently maintained that any lobbying reform proposal be bipartisan. The bill Senators Joe Lieberman and Bill Nelson and I have introduced is evidence of that commitment as is my insistence that members of both parties be included in meetings to develop the legislation that will ultimately be considered on the Senate floor. As I explained in a recent letter to Senator Reid, and have publicly said many times, the American people do not see this as just a Republican problem or just a Democratic problem. They see it as yet another run-of-the-mill Washington scandal, and they expect it will generate just another round of partisan gamesmanship and posturing. Senator Lieberman and I, and many other members of this body, hope to exceed t{gt} he public's low expectations. We view this as an opportunity to bring transparency and accountability to the Congress, and, most importantly, to show the public that both parties will work together to address our failings.

As I noted, I initially believed you shared that goal. But I understand how important the opportunity to lead your party's effort to exploit this issue must seem to a freshman Senator, and I hold no hard feelings over your earlier disingenuousness. Again, I have been around long enough to appreciate that in politics the public interest isn't always a priority for every one of us. Good luck to you, Senator.

Sincerely,

John McCain United States Senate

[gauguin57]

47. Senator McCain, just stay in your warm little nest inside Bush's ass.

And don't bother us anymore. Your integrity was your calling card. You lost that calling card when you climbed into Bush's ass after holding him so close, so close.

So Shaddap!

[orleans]

49. headlines on google (obama better kick back because these

"liberal" media outlets are giving him headlines that make him look like a major assh*le:

(googled mccain obama & clicked on 110 related):


Text of the letter from Sen. McCain to Sen. Obama
Chicago Tribune, United States - 6 hours ago
WASHINGTON -- Following is the text of the letter from US Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) to US Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), as released ...

McCain Criticizes Obama on Lobbying Ethics
Houston Chronicle, United States - 6 hours ago
By JIM ABRAMS Associated Press Writer. WASHINGTON — Republican Sen. John McCain on Monday accused his Democratic colleague Barack ...

Sen. Obama's office responds
Chicago Tribune, United States - 6 hours ago
Fellow Chicago Tribune reporter Jeff Zeleny talked with Robert Gibbs, a spokesman for Sen. Barack Obama who, as reported in an earlier ...

McCain flames Obama
Chicago Tribune, United States - 7 hours ago
Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) has apparently just been introduced the infamous temper of Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.). In a flaming letter ...

McCain accuses Obama of 'posturing'
Athens Banner-Herald (subscription), GA - 2 hours ago
WASHINGTON - Republican Sen. John McCain on Monday accused his Democratic colleague Barack Obama of "partisan posturing" on the ...

John McCain -- Jerk Extraordinaire
Political Cortex, NY - 3 hours ago
Remember when John McCain was considered to be one of the cool not-so-partisan Republicans? Well those days are over. He is not ...

McCain counters Obama with sharp rebuttal on lobbying reform
The Hill, DC - 5 hours ago
The burgeoning bipartisanship surrounding the Senate’s efforts to craft lobbying reform legislation shattered yesterday, as Sen. ...

McCain criticizes Obama on Lobbying Ethics
WQAD, IL - 5 hours ago
WASHINGTON Republican Senator John McCain accused his Democratic colleague Barack Obama (ber-AHK' oh-BAH'-muh) today of "partisan posturing" on the issue of ...

McCain Blasts -- And We Mean Blasts -- Obama
National Journal, DC - 7 hours ago
An outraged Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) today called Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) insincere and partisan, suggesting the Illinois freshman ...

McCain Criticizes Obama on Lobbying Ethics
CBS News - 4 hours ago
(AP) Republican Sen. John McCain on Monday accused his Democratic colleague Barack Obama of "partisan posturing" on the issue of ...

McCain criticizes Obama on lobbying ethics
Seattle Post Intelligencer - 5 hours ago
By JIM ABRAMS. WASHINGTON -- Republican Sen. John McCain on Monday accused his Democratic colleague Barack Obama of "partisan posturing ...

McCain Criticizes Obama on Lobbying Ethics
ABC News - 5 hours ago
By JIM ABRAMS. WASHINGTON Feb 6, 2006 (AP)— Republican Sen. John McCain on Monday accused his Democratic colleague Barack Obama ...

Update 2: McCain Criticizes Obama on Lobbying Ethics
Forbes - 5 hours ago
By JIM ABRAMS , 02.06.2006, 08:24 PM. Republican Sen. John McCain on Monday accused his Democratic colleague Barack Obama of "partisan ...

McCain criticizes Obama on Lobbying Ethics
San Diego Union Tribune, United States - 5 hours ago
By Jim Abrams. WASHINGTON – Republican Sen. John McCain on Monday accused his Democratic colleague Barack Obama of “partisan ...

McCain Criticizes Obama on Lobbying Ethics
ABC News - 6 hours ago
Bavarian State Governor Edmund Stoiber, right, talks to US Senator John McCain, prior to a dinner near the venue of the 42nd Munich Conference on Security ...

McCain criticizes Obama on lobbying ethics reform
USA Today - 5 hours ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican Sen. John McCain on Monday accused his Democratic colleague Barack Obama of "partisan posturing" on ...

McCain criticizes Obama on lobbying ethics
Chicago Sun-Times, United States - 6 hours ago
BY JIM ABRAMS ASSOCIATED PRESS. WASHINGTON-- Republican Sen. John McCain on Monday accused his Democratic colleague Barack Obama ...

McCain Criticizes Obama on Lobbying Ethics
Salon - 6 hours ago
By JIM ABRAMS Associated Press Writer. February 06,2006 | WASHINGTON -- Republican Sen. John McCain on Monday accused his Democratic ...

McCain tears into Obama on lobbying
Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, PA - 1 hour ago
By The Associated Press. Republican Sen. John McCain on Monday accused his Democratic colleague Barack Obama of "partisan posturing ...

John McCain's Letter Bomba To Obama
The Moderate Voice - 3 hours ago
by Joe Gandelman. A clearly seething Senator John McCain wrote a scathing personal letter to Senator Barack Obama and stuck it on his website. ...

John McCain Slams Barack Obama for Placing Politics over Reform
National Ledger, AZ - 6 hours ago
By CK Rairden. Arizona Senator John McCain took Democrat Senator Barack Obama to task on Monday, ripping the junior senator from ...

McCain Criticizes Obama on Lobbying Ethics
Ely Times, USA - 6 hours ago
By JIM ABRAMS, 8 minutes ago. WASHINGTON - Republic, , ) on Monday accused his Democratic colleague Barack Obama of "partisan posturing ...

McCain to Obama: I won't make the same mistake twice (of trusting ...
Town Hall, DC - 7 hours ago
Arizona Senator John McCain today made public a scathing letter to Senator Barack Obama in which he takes Obama to task for going back on his word. ...

[Pachamama]

50. Sounds like McCain is warming up for '08 showdown...

I've often thought that Obama would be a great Dem candidate in '08 (w/ Russ Feingold) and maybe McCain is getting ready to fight since we all know how badly poor John thinks the Presidency shoulda been his...