Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Bush Proposes Cutting Dairy Programs

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 04:35 AM
Original message
Bush Proposes Cutting Dairy Programs
Bush Proposes Cutting Dairy Programs
By FREDERIC J. FROMMER, Associated Press Writer
Tuesday, February 7, 2006
(02-07) 00:32 PST WASHINGTON (AP) --

President Bush's budget proposal includes a new tax on dairy farmers along with reductions to two dairy price support programs.

The budget calls for a 3-cent tax per hundredweight of milk, which translates into about $720 a year for an average-sized dairy farm.

It calls for changes in the way the Department of Agriculture sets dairy support prices, aimed at minimizing payments to farmers. And it also proposes a 5 percent cut to all crop payments, including the Milk Income Loss Contract program, known as MILC.

The proposed changes unveiled Monday would have to be approved by Congress, which is far from a certainty. They would take effect for the fiscal year that begins Oct. 1.
(snip/...)

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/02/07/financial/f003242S16.DTL
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 04:40 AM
Response to Original message
1. IMHO this is all about blaming Congress for the Red Ink
He knows this is DOA in Congress, like a lot of his other cuts. When these are not made, he will try to blame Dems and Congress for spending too much. :grr:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 05:30 AM
Response to Original message
2. well, if he wants to drive out more small dairy farmers. this is a good
plan.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 06:40 AM
Response to Reply #2
5. Not Necessarily
Edited on Tue Feb-07-06 06:41 AM by Crisco
Unless they manage to lobby themselves a loophole, this could help smaller farmers - or at least hurt them far less - than the factory farms who get the bulk of subsidies.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 06:32 PM
Response to Reply #2
24. Like hell it is! Are you being sarcastic?
We have a local dairy in Northern Cal...Clover-Stornetta who makes quality dairy products and here and there are small cow farms from whom the milk comes from and not a factory farm where the cows are miserable, packed in and standing in mud instead of a nice green pasture.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 05:32 AM
Response to Original message
3. These nimrod criminal bastards have to be sitting around all night
thinking up new ways to drum up money to feed their habits. They're addicted to spending on lost causes, criminal enterprises, and giving money to the rich. They're running out now so they have to try to find new sources.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 07:10 AM
Response to Reply #3
9. Like taxing the shit out of items like toilet paper, condoms, and tooth
paste
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
phaseolus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 06:19 AM
Response to Original message
4. Why pick on dairy farms? Why not sugar?
Many good jobs in some industries (like candymaking) are fleeing the country because sugar costs so damned much. Eliminating those supports would keep those jobs in the U.S., and maybe soft drink producers wouldn't use HFCS so much anymore which makes you fatter than sugar does...

Is it because sugar cane growers are in red states, and Wisconsin and California are blue states?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 07:03 AM
Response to Reply #4
7. From the article
The dairy cuts are part of an agriculture budget aimed at reducing spending on commodity programs by $1 billion. The budget also proposes that sugar producers pay a 1.2 percent tax, but an identical proposal was scrapped by Congress last year.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 07:49 AM
Response to Reply #4
11. Sugar is an interesting example
Edited on Tue Feb-07-06 07:51 AM by Jose Diablo
When I think of sugar, I think about some capitalist from England or Spain coming to the 'new' world. Burning all the vegetation on an island, say the Cayman Island, thus killing everything including the indigenous people. Then having some buddies come in from Africa bringing slaves to grow sugar cane. Taking the sugar to England to satisfy a sweet tooth and profit from a charter granted by a King giving the sugar importer exclusive 'rights' to supply that market with sugar.

I don't see how much has changed for these capitalists. Probably the same families, except now they are called an 'industry'.

Edit: Come on everybody, let's link arms and sing America like we are at an Amway convention.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 11:42 AM
Response to Reply #4
17. yeah or why not cancer causing JUNK FOODS?
oops can't do that, Monsanto might not like! :grr:

:kick:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 06:49 AM
Response to Original message
6. "... Bush's budget proposal includes a new tax... "
Republinazis = more taxes, along with an economic recession or Depression.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 07:05 AM
Response to Original message
8. Oh my the Heartland Farmers ...what will they do...their man Bush
is proposing taxes upon them....gasp!

Here in PA (a big dairy state) the farmers are predominately republican...wonder how this will sit with them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 07:42 AM
Response to Reply #8
10. You know the answer.
In unison and three-part harmony:

"9/11......CHANGED.......EV-ERY-THINNNNNNGGGGG!!!"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 08:58 AM
Response to Original message
12. Farmers vote Republican almost always

Hope they're happy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 12:32 PM
Response to Reply #12
21. i'm not so sure about that
i thought it was the opposite. do you have any links to back that statement up? (you could be right, i don't know. i always thought that farmers were predominantly democrats. maybe depends which state?)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 09:01 AM
Response to Original message
13. "Guns, not milk . . . " n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 09:40 AM
Response to Original message
14. Take milk from American babies! WAR is more important!
RAH RAH RAH! Ain't America grand!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 09:47 AM
Response to Original message
15. dairy subsidies are pure welfare for farmers, get rid of them.
let the people who want dairy products pay for them. the human body has no need for cow milk. same goes for sugar, a product devoid of nutritional value.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 12:31 PM
Response to Reply #15
20. sorry, you don't know what you're talking about.
land taxes for farms are absurdly high - they need to be offset in SOME way.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 10:02 AM
Response to Original message
16. I think it is disgraceful that we try to keep milk prices high.
The milk price supports should be eliminated.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 12:30 PM
Response to Original message
18. I hate this fucker
but halliburtan, et al get their stinking tax breaks. like farmers can afford this.

My cousin has almost lost the farm that's been in family for GENERATIONS due to high taxes. He's ready to give up. He wants lease the land for natural gas wells, which will probably destroy the land.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 12:30 PM
Response to Original message
19. wow, who'd a thunk it, moron* and PETA agree on the same thing...
it was reported on here yesterday that PETA is trying to an anti-milk campaign.

go figure.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 06:46 PM
Response to Reply #19
25. For different reasons, though.
Unfair comparison. It's like me saying that you probably want to make more money each year, but then so does Bush.

Go figure.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 09:56 AM
Response to Reply #25
26. It was an Ironic comparison...PETA and moron* are worlds apart. nt
Edited on Wed Feb-08-06 09:56 AM by Javaman
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 05:24 PM
Response to Original message
22. Cut This, Cut That.
Well how about cutting the STUPID WAR???:grr:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 05:28 PM
Response to Original message
23. DOA. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 04:56 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC