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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 09:18 AM
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Russian Ultranationalist Leader Expects U.S. to Attack Iran in Late March
http://www.mosnews.com/news/2006/02/07/vzhiriran.shtml

Russian Ultranationalist Leader Expects U.S. to Attack Iran in Late March

A senior Russian parliamentary official and leader of the ultranationalist Liberal Democratic Vladimir Zhirinovsky believes that a US attack on Iran is inevitable, he has told Ekho Moskvy radio station.

“The war is inevitable because the Americans want this war,” he said. “Any country claiming a leading position in the world will need to wage wars. Otherwise it will simply not be able to retain its leading position. The date for the strike is already known — it is the election day in Israel (March 28). It is also known how much that war will cost,” Zhirinovsky said.

He went on to add that the publication of Prophet Muhammad cartoons in the European press was a planned action by the U.S. whose aim is “to provoke a row between Europe and the Islamic world”. “It will all end with European countries thanking the United States and paying, and giving soldiers,” he said. Russia should “choose a position of non-interference and express minimal solidarity with the Islamic world”, Zhirinovsky added.

For his part, the head of the Centre for Strategic Studies of Religions and Modern World Politics, Maxim Shevchenko, also believes that a U.S. attack on Iran is very likely although he sees no preconditions for this war. “Iran does not threaten anyone, is not pointing its missiles at anyone. No Iranian leader has ever threatened to carry out a strike against the U.S. Therefore preparations for a war against Iran appear to be a global act of provocation,” he said.

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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 09:29 AM
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1. "global act of provocation"
Yes, exactly. And that's how the world will see it.

America, you were great once.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 07:49 PM
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19. and PNAC has been blatant about their more than provactive
position on america first and no challengers.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 09:33 AM
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2. Once Progressives (including DUers) realize they have been played,
there will already be troops on the ground in yet another illegal war. The cries for freedom of the press and contrived indignance at the Muslims will be just a distant memory.

And who knows what other horrors the Administration has in store, conducted under the guise of endless war. Not even the most hardened skeptic believed it would have its Attorney General brazenly defending illegal warrantless wiretaps before Congress.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 09:53 AM
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4. we could use the Cliff notes on Iran right about now....
Iran for Dummies.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 07:50 PM
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20. yup-and AG NOT under oath - why bother to show up
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 09:53 AM
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3. Time to take ALL the war mongers and send them to the sun.
You're not a leader unless you invade. You're not a man unless you invade. Let's let the women rule the world and see what we get. Can't be worse, that's for sure.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 09:54 AM
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5. Removing this administration would be more cost effective.
or at least removing their power in the meantime.
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 10:36 AM
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6. Can't we stop giving far-right arseholes publicity?
There's far too many fundamentalist muslim nutjob getting spouting bollocks in the media & we don't need to add to this by the likes of Zhirinovsky.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 10:39 AM
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7. Let's just ignore them.
Maybe they'll go away.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 11:00 AM
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8. "Far-right fundamentalist arsehole muslim nutjobs" or Bush Inc.?
look the same to me. Since we can't get any
truthful information from our own leaders,
I don't see any reason not to listen to other
voices.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 11:12 AM
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9. Well, now I know this guy doesn't know much. "It is also known how much
the war will cost"????

CLEARLY he hasn't spent much time observing Washington lately, or understanding the jackasses in charge there. They don't even know - and haven't EVER gotten a handle on - how much the Iraq war is costing, no less being able to project accurately what ANOTHER war, in Iran this time, will cost. Looks like Zhirinovsky is giving rummy and friends a lot more credit for war planning/budgeting than they deserve. He may be correct about war being inevitable between the US and Iran. But he isn't on the money about the money. Our "valiant" armchair warriors in the White House and the Pentago have their heads firmly up their asses when it comes to knowing what a war will cost. In ANY form of currency you name.
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plasticsundance Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 11:15 AM
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10. Here's what Wikipedia has to say about Zhirinovsky
According to unconfirmed reports, Zhirinovsky was a long-time KGB operative and had a Jewish father. His last name was 'Eidelstein' (Эйдельште́йн), which he changed to Zhirinovsky when he received his official Soviet passport at the age of 18. Zhirinovsky denies he worked for the KGB, but has admitted that his father was Jewish.

Some critics say that Zhirinovsky's party has very little in common with what Westerners call liberalism.

He advocates alliances between the former Soviet republics leading up to re-incorporation of the Soviet Union. Zhirinovsky also made statements regarding re-acquisition of Alaska through the use of military force, invading and occupying Iran, and constructing large fans to blow Russia's nuclear waste into Germany. He has also praised Adolf Hitler's rule and encouraged the use of nuclear weapons against possible adversaries. He has been known to make public anti-Semitic remarks.

Zhirinovsky allegedly praised the success of American presidential candidate Pat Buchanan during Buchanan's 1992 Presidential bid. Buchanan refused Zhirinovsky's endorsement.

Vladimir Volfovich Zhirinovsky



Well ... you all decide.
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JuniorPlankton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 11:29 AM
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12. I remember the guy speaking before the first time he got some power
In the early nineties. Well, as much as we all hate *, this guy is much worse. (I think it was the Baltic states he wanted to blow radioactive dust to, to make them go back to a SU type of setup.)
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nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 07:37 PM
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15. zhirinovsky is crazy as can be...but I guess even a broken clock is right
twice a day
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 11:18 AM
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11. With What? Spitballs?
Or will Herr Bush release the worst nightmare - tactical nukes?
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 04:14 PM
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13. No, my birthday is the end of March, and my
wedding anniversary is near the date we attacked Iraq. I don't want us to attack Iran.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 04:43 PM
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14. Sure, it's our exit strategy for Iraq
Hey, they've had their elections, we've built our airbases, it's time to move on.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 07:46 PM
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16. This is not the first time March 06 was given as the time when
the US would attack Iran. Way back, not long after the invasion of Iraq, there were comments, Scott Ritter may have been one, stating that Iran was next and it would be in March. Remember, March was chosen for Iraq because of the weather, etc, and I would assume that would be the same for Iran.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 07:47 PM
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17. russia called it right before iraq invasion as well
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 07:48 PM
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18. us/israel/uk have their operatives stirring the cauldron everywhere
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 07:54 PM
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21. this guy seems like he knows whats what
he's likely right about both the war and the cartoon thing.
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 07:56 PM
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22. Even if Zhiranovsky is correct on the date, he's still a turd
Edited on Tue Feb-07-06 07:57 PM by AlienGirl
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 01:04 PM
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23. kick
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PhilipShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 01:04 PM
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24. UPI: Russian MP gives date of U.S. Iran attack
United Press International
Russian MP gives date of U.S. Iran attack
2/8/2006

http://www.upi.com/SecurityTerrorism/view.php?StoryID=20060208-104811-5127r

MOSCOW, Feb. 8 (UPI) -- Russian Duma member Vladimir Zhirinovsky said that a U.S. attack on Iraq is "inevitable" and will occur on March 28.

Zhirinovsky is vice-chairman of Russia's Duma and founder and leader of the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia.

During an interview with Ekho Moskvy radio station, Zhirinovsky said, "The war is inevitable because the Americans want this war. Any country claiming a leading position in the world will need to wage wars. Otherwise it will simply not be able to retain its leading position.

Zhirinovsky also told his listeners that the Danish publication of cartoons offensive to Muslims was a deliberate psychological operation by the Bush administration intended to "provoke a row between Europe and the Islamic world. It will all end with European countries thanking the United States and paying, and giving soldiers."
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 01:04 PM
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25. Scary (yet not surprising) stuff...
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 01:04 PM
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26. Well, I was called irrational because I asked if Bush had a hand
in the offensive cartoons. So I guess Vladimir is irrational, too.

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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 06:33 PM
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35. I'm sure you're far more rational than that right wing loon
His fiery ultra-nationalist rhetoric, which caused huge international anxiety when his party came first in the 1993 parliamentary election, is now more widely seen as a form of political theatre.

Mr Zhirinovsky enjoys nothing more than shocking liberal opinion at home and abroad with outrageous threats and warnings.
...
Mr Zhirinovsky is famous for acknowledging that he dreams of a day "when Russian soldiers can wash their boots in the warm waters of the Indian Ocean".

He has also threatened to seize Alaska from the United States, to launch a nuclear strike on Japan, to flood Germany with radioactive waste, and to occupy the Baltic states.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/667745.stm
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DakotaDemocrat Donating Member (330 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 01:04 PM
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27. Let's look again...
MOSCOW, Feb. 8 (UPI) -- Russian Duma member Vladimir Zhirinovsky said that a U.S. attack on Iraq is "inevitable" and will occur on March 28.

Iraq? I know the title says Iran, but let's look again to make sure.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 01:04 PM
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28. given the context, I'd say that's an obvious typo....
eom
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 01:04 PM
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29. Please don't say Americans want this war - it's only a few of the
better placed ones who have a hard on for it (and their never logical cult) The rest of us don't
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 01:04 PM
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30. Zhirinovsky is a loony
just remember that, when reading his comments.
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 01:04 PM
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31. Another source article -- new info
Edited on Wed Feb-08-06 12:47 PM by BadgerKid
Russian MP Says US To Attack Iran Late March
Muslim riots a US psyop aimed at getting EU support for war

Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | February 7 2006

A top Russian parliamentary leader has told Ekho Moskvy radio station that an attack on Iran is inevitable and that it will occur on March 28th. The leader of the Liberal Democrats Vladimir Zhirinovsky also believes that the Muslim riots were orchestrated by the US to garner European backing for the military strike.

...

"The date for the strike is already known — it is the election day in Israel (March 28). It is also known how much that war will cost,” said Zhirinovsky.

...
The window of opportunity seems to be forming for the US and Israel. The White House meeting memo proves that UN consultations and possible sanctions are mere window dressing for a plan of action that has already been decided upon. What remains to be seen is if the US or Israel will attempt to manufacture a staged war provocation to goad the Iranians into signing their own death warrant.

...

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2006/070206attackiran.htm
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 01:04 PM
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32. Zhirinovsky is an anti-semetic right-wing wildly anti-US twat / nutter
and Prison Planet is hardly an appropriate source for anything. Frankly you might as well just ask David Duke or Abu Hamza their opinion on the matter.
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 01:04 PM
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33. Thanks. Didn't know. n/t
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PhilipShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 01:26 PM
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34. The Bush Co.--are secretly anti-Semitic right-wing wildly and anti-US
Publicly Bush and Co. say they are for Israel, but in reality, they have a history of secretly-- supporting pro Palestinian rights movements -- and the PL0 and anti-Semitism.

The right wing in the former Soviet Union -- created the PLO, so even if he is in the right wing -- he would know-- because he would have been one of the ones to have info about it.

It was originally Republican politicians in the USA whom took NAZI gold money from NAZI officers, which escaped to South America after the war, for the specific purpose of making Palestian rights a -- mainstream issue -- in the US public.

The average American -- could care less about what goes on in the Middle East, when they turn on the TV news. The main ones interested in Middle East News is the mainstream news organizations, etc. and the militarists, whom control the news in the USA via the PNAC and the military-industrial-complex.

Bush knew that Hamas would win, in fact – that is why they funded the elections.
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