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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 07:00 PM
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Bush Plan Would Trim Survivor Benefits
WASHINGTON - President Bush's budget calls for elimination of a $255 lump-sum death payment that has been part of Social Security for more than 50 years and urges Congress to cut off monthly survivor benefits to 16- and 17-year-old high school dropouts.

If approved, the two proposals would save a combined $3.4 billion over the next decade, according to administration estimates.

Any attempt to reduce Social Security benefits — no matter how small — could face intense opposition in Congress in an election year.

"There they go again," Sen. Chuck Schumer, the New York Democrat who chairs his party's campaign committee, said Tuesday of the administration. "They can't resist trying to cut Social Security and to cut a survivor's, a widow or widower's benefits; it just shows how warped the priorities are in this budget."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060207/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_social_security
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 07:02 PM
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1. Congress should increase the lump-sum benefit.
It's way too low for even the simplest of funerals. Send that assh0le a message.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 07:03 PM
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2. Frankly, the $255 death settlement is a slap inthe face
It should be 2,555.00....and kids who drop out should continue to receive money unless they leave the family home..checks are made out to the parent anyway..It's bad enough that they dropped out..cutting out what little they get will only make things worse for the family.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 07:06 PM
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3. The burden would fall on the States to enforce the dropout clause.
No telling how much that would cost, or is Homeland Security going to hire caseworkers with M-16's to police the recipients.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 09:11 PM
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11. Thats the only way Bushco knows how to create jobs nt
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 09:19 PM
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14. hey gotta get those drop outs in the army some how
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 08:11 PM
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4. of course, just business as usual for bushco.
but i doubt it'll be actually implemented. as the story notes, its an election year.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 08:25 PM
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5. Thank Reagan for starting to pick on the widows and children
and now Bush will try and carry on that legacy.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 09:00 PM
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9. well, Reagan IS jr's hero.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 08:25 PM
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6. Let's just keep that vicious cycle of poverty going, folks.
Not to worry about those dropouts. In a couple years, they can join the Army and be all that they can be in Iran. :eyes:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 08:58 PM
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7. oh, my gawd!!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 09:00 PM
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8. $3.4 billion over the next decade,--this is loose change in Congress and
yet the Wh has no shame.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 08:36 AM
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19. The invasion of Iraq costs more than that every month nt
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 09:02 PM
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10. I was 11 when my dad died
and at that time you could receive Survivors Benefits until you were 22 as long as you stayed in school. I wouldn't have gotton through college without it.

Bastards.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 09:16 PM
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12. I was 10 when my father died
but while I was a child Reagan changed the law and...no more benefits during college and also...my mother's stipend was cut when the youngest child (my brother) turned 16.

My mother was working 4 jobs while I was in college...not only to help me, but to provide income for herself and my brother...

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 11:22 PM
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18. To prepare for the boomer retirement
If all the working people today understood they have been sacrificing since the 80's to pay for the boomer retirement, and those sacrifices and our increased FICA taxes are what's been given away in those tax cuts, maybe people would rise up and reject this shit.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 10:24 AM
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27. Same here, I was a kid when my father died.
I wouldn't have gotten through college without it either.

Ray-gun put a stop to that.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 09:18 PM
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13. Snip snip, trim cut.
Killing us slowly with his greed.
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 09:22 PM
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15. They must have teams who seek out the weakest and most needy
"Hey, Joe, what were we thinking? While we've been concentrating on the kids and the old and the sick, there were the widows and orphans right under our noses!"
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 09:38 PM
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16. The very fact that Bush would submit a budget like this should cost all
Republicans their Congressional seats in 2006 if they are up for election. OR, this is a political strategy to throw something out there for the Rethugs to vote AGAINST to make them look caring and compassionate to their constituencies.
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 11:09 PM
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17. This is just obscene
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 10:19 AM
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20. Kick
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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 10:19 AM
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21. Bush plan would cut survivor benefits (social security again)
WASHINGTON (AP) - If President Bush gets his way, the venerable $255 Social Security death benefit will fade into history.
"There they go again," said New York Sen. Chuck Schumer, who heads the party's Senate campaign effort. "They can't resist trying to cut Social Security, and to cut a survivor, a widow or widower's benefits, it just shows how warped the priorities are in this budget."
http://www.sacbee.com/24hour/front/story/3146053p-11853574c.html
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 10:19 AM
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22. They also want to kill payments for children ages 16 & 17 who
are not enrolled in school...although I'll bet my butt there'll be a clause excepting "homeschoolers".
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 10:19 AM
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23. Cut those paltry widow benefits and sell all our
national and state land to corporate lobbyists for nothing. That should help turn this sinking economy around. :sarcasm:
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 10:19 AM
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26. And shovel off hundreds of billions to"Iraq"
where the accounting is "iffy" at best :banghead:
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Trevelyan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 10:19 AM
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24. K & R -- I have no words but FireDogLake does - on the massive cuts for
poor, children and elderly and bush still wasn't satisfied and sent the budget back to cut even more benefits for those living on the edge and barely making it. The survivors' benefit must have been ONE of the things the Congress came up with to screw the poor even more...are the Dems standing as ONE against the majority repukes? We really need to get rid of these DINOs and support the Band of Brother...the Iraq and Afghanistan veterans who are running as Democrats... they won't be afraid of bush's threats.

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Iraq & Afghanistan Veterans of America PAC

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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 10:19 AM
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25. But bush wants 400 billion for iraq and to give more tax cuts to the rich
Edited on Wed Feb-08-06 09:51 AM by superconnected
and make the previous ones permanent. How can he cut these little social programs... :sarcasm:

I think mr "I won't touch medicare and medicad", who cut them both the most, and now wants to get rid of windows benefits and survior checks for kids has just proven he didn't sell his soul to corporations after all. He sold it to lucifer.
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