Bush Rebukes Muslim Violence, Chides Press

[Kerrytravelers]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060209/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_prophet_drawings


By TERENCE HUNT, AP White House Correspondent
2 hours, 27 minutes ago



WASHINGTON - President Bush condemned the deadly rioting sparked by cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad on Wednesday, and his secretary of state accused Iran and Syria of trying "to inflame sentiments" across the Muslim world.

Bush urged foreign leaders to halt the spreading violence and to protect diplomats in besieged embassies.


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"We reject violence as a way to express discontent with what may be printed in a free press," Bush said.

At the same time, he admonished the press that its freedom comes with "the responsibility to be thoughtful about others."

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And ironically, as the story continues...

In Afghanistan, meanwhile, police killed four people as protesters marched on a U.S. military base.

[HuffleClaw]

1. "he admonished the press that its freedom comes...

...with "the responsibility to be thoughtful about others."

the press? it was them who engineered this disgrace.

[Army]

2. Bush is one to talk, but...the police were right

"Wednesday's violence began when hundreds of protesters tried to storm the U.S. base, said Ghulam Nabi Malakhail, a provincial police chief. When warning shots failed to deter them, police shot into the crowd, killing four and wounding 11, he said.

Protesters also burned three fuel tankers waiting to deliver gasoline to the base, said Malakhail. He said U.S. troops fired warning shots into the air."


Those protesters weren't trying to get in to sing Kumbaya.

[MakeItSo]

3. ALL REPORTED DEATHS AND INJURIES have been due to POLICE, NOT PROTESTERS

No one was in the torched embassies -- they were vacant and no one was injured. I challenge ANYONE to link to a SINGLE REPORT OF VIOLENCE by a protester that resulted in the deliberate death or injury of an individual!

[Army]

4. Sure they were Vacant

Would you stick around with that trouble brewing? Do you think the protesters said "Wait, let's make sure the building is empty before we destroy it?"

And they didn't kill anyone at the base because they didn't have the chance to. Warning shots were fired and they kept coming. The police did what they should have done.

[Behind the Aegis]

5. Single report

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In Bagram district, a peaceful protest in the morning turned violent when around 300 "bandits and gangsters" tried to enter the US base, local police chief Mawlana Sayed Khel told the BBC.

A shoot-out with police left two protesters dead, and six police officers injured, he said.

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source

[MakeItSo]

6. DING DING DING: 2 dead protesters vs. 6 injured policemen

Hmmm....I think I'd rather be one of the policemen. How about you?

[Behind the Aegis]

7. But that was not the 'quest' was it?

Changing the game because you were proved wrong is dishonest.

[Army]

11. So people were shooting at the policemen

So they tried to kill the cops then, they were just too stupid to aim straight. The herd has a way of thinning itself out.

[Behind the Aegis]

13. And you would rather be who in this story?

Turkey detains student over killing of priest
07 Feb 2006 11:32:30 GMT

Source: Reuters

(Adds TV reports of confession, motive, Italian PM)

By Gareth Jones

ANKARA, Feb 7 (Reuters) - Turkish security forces arrested a high school student on Tuesday over the killing of an Italian Catholic priest and Turkish television said the teenager had confessed to a crime which has shocked this Muslim nation.

The student told police he was influenced by cartoons lampooning the Prophet Mohammad, NTV commercial television said. The report could not be immediately confirmed.

more

[Gullvann]

12. The one guy in Lebanon who started torching the floors,

and then went up. Painted himself into a corner so to speak, before he had to jump to his death to escape his own arson.

Then you had the priest in Turkey who was killed by a youngster claiming revenge because some Italian newspapers had reprinted the cartoons.

Sadly.

[Kerrytravelers]

18. Not excusing the protesters, just pointing out the ironies in life.

[TaleWgnDg]

8. What did Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes say in his dissent?

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What did U.S. Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes say in his famous dissent? Oh. Yes. Tis far better to have more information published than it is to have information suppressed/censored. Indeed. Something about our first amendment's freedom of speech infers that it is better to have a "marketplace of ideas" thus a free flow of ideas, information, publications.

With that in mind. Has anyone wondered what the hell all this extremist Islamic behavior is in reaction of? In other words, have you seen these editorial cartoons?




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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_cartoons_controversy
(as last visited, Thursday, February 9, 2006 at 3:30 AM EST)

See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_cartoons_controversy
(as last visited Thursday, February 9, 2006 at 3:50 AM EST)
"This is the timeline of the 2006 Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy. The cartoons were first published by Jyllands-Posten in late September 2005; approximately two weeks later, nearly 3,500 people demonstrated peacefully in Copenhagen. In November, several European newspapers re-published the images, triggering more protests. Labour strikes began in Pakistan the following month, and several organizations criticized the Danish government. More protests occurred in January 2006, and later that month a boycott of Danish goods began. Several countries withdrew their ambassadors to Denmark, and widespread protests, some of them violent, began. The protests continued in February. In Damascus, Syria, both the Norwegian embassy and a building containing the Danish, Swedish, and Chilean embassies were stormed and set afire by protesters. The Danish General Consulate in Beirut was burned down by more than 10,000 protesters." (further list of violent acts)
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[Behind the Aegis]

9. Do you know what cartoon #9 means?

I haven't found a translation and I sure don't get the symbolism. Do you? (this is a honest request)

[TaleWgnDg]

10. I'm with you. Meaning that I, too, do not know. Sorry . . .

Hhmmmmm . . . wait a minute. It has a star crescent (Islamic) and a star of David (Hebrew), and the Danish (language) seems to say something about chastising the prophet (Mohammad) for condoning the killing of innocent under-aged children. That's my guess. But it's only a guess.

[Bushy Being Born]

14. It symbolizes veiled women

And the text reads something along the lines of "Prophet, you crazy bloke, keeping women under yoke"

[rodeodance]

17. The cartoons seem to be the straw that broke the camels back-There

have been wide spread discontent--simmering for years. And yes we have know this for years. Invading Irag was one of the straws also.

But seems to me--the publication of the cartoons was just one instance too many.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

15. Bush condemns violence, reserves right to bomb foreign

nations at will. Hypocritical twit.

[Kerrytravelers]

19. Thank you. You get the irony.

Rolling my eyes at "our leader" doesn't mean I excuse violence from others.

[rodeodance]

16. I have read that the Koran itself does not forbid depictions of the

Prophet--. Thoughts?



....Islam is interpreted to forbid any illustrations of Prophet Muhammad for fear they could lead to idolatry.

[rodeodance]

20. Bush Shifts on Muslim Protests--but says Dems are 'undecided"

.......Some Democrats said Bush is missing an opportunity to highlight U.S. respect for Muslims and Islam in not explicitly condemning the publication of the cartoons, especially one portraying Muhammad with a bomb atop his turban. Since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, Bush has invested a lot of money and staff resources in trying to improve the U.S. image in Muslim nations.

"These and other inflammatory images deserve our scorn, just as the violence against embassies and military installations are an unacceptable and intolerable form of protest," said Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.).

"We have done precious little to effectively communicate to the hearts and minds and win that long-term war," said former Democratic congressman Timothy J. Roemer (Ind.), a member of the Sept. 11 commission. "This seems to be an opportunity to condemn the cartoons and communicate directly with the Muslim people on a host of issues."

But Democrats appear divided over the issue. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) agrees with Bush's position and fears censoring the press, according to her spokesman, Brendan Daly........


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/08/AR2006020801062_pf.html
Bush Shifts on Muslim Protests
Violence Is Criticized, Not the Cartoons

By Jim VandeHei
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, February 9, 2006; A01