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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 09:44 PM
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Gingrich Cheers Frustrated Conservatives
WASHINGTON - Newt Gingrich, who led the Republican Party to power a dozen years ago, told cheering conservatives Saturday it is time to overhaul a balky, slow-moving government locked in the last century.

Citing multiple government failures after Hurricane Katrina, the former House speaker said the government meltdown at all levels illustrated how badly government needs to be updated in all of its operations.

"The system failed, the city of New Orleans failed, the state of Louisiana failed and the government of the United States failed," Gingrich said. "When you see an American body on an American street sitting there for three days on television because the government can't collect the dead, something has failed.

"Where are the proposals for dramatic, bold, large change that everytime something fails in New Orleans during the reconstruction, we don't defend it ... we fix it?"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060212/ap_on_el_ge/conservatives
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 09:46 PM
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1. You can use the Gingrich method. Just divorce it. n/t
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 09:48 PM
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2. While it's in a hospital bed. n/t
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 09:49 PM
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3. Or at your mother's house.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 09:49 PM
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4. Following cancer surgery. nt
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 09:52 PM
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5. And this is they guy the other Repubs look UP to.
Sheesh.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 12:32 PM
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21. LOL!!!....Great analogy!!!
I never thought in a million years I would support anything
this guy would say, but under these circumstances, all the
power to his voice!!!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 09:55 PM
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6. I just don't see ol' Newt carrying the ball for the GOP in 08.
He's too downtown for the rural Republicans and he's damaged goods in a year when the Rethugs can least afford reinforcing their image as corrupt assholes.

Maybe he's angling for a cabinet post.
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 10:31 PM
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9. I think the GOP is still testing the waters
Would not surprise me in the least if they run him.
If the elections were held next month I think he would beat Hillary
hands down.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 08:43 AM
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14. Agree that Newt would do pretty well against Sen. Clinton
but still don't see him winning over the good-ol-boy Republican state party chairfolks.

But who knows? Politics is a wayward thing. Newt could surprise me.
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 01:51 PM
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25. They are having him distance himself on purpose
He will be the clean new look of republican leadership.
He is still evil and ruthless as can be. In their hearts they love him
because they know he will deliver.
Hill would have no chance at all.
If we are stupid enough to run her
we deserve to get our asses handed to
us.
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 02:22 PM
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28. Dump Hillary. We need a strongman, like Clark. He KNOWS nat'l security.


And has some really good ideas. I didn't support him last time, but he looks now to be our best bet to beat the reichwingers.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 11:17 AM
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19. Sounds like you watch to much TV
Newt would not stand a chance. There are more women now in America than men and they tend to vote for other women no matter what Party.. I think Hillary would absolutely trounce Newt or any Republican for that matter with the possible exception of McCain and even he may be found out to be the truly repugnant Republican that he is.....Don't underestimate the Clintons. Remember Bill would be out there on every channel using sound logic and reasoning and offering hope and optimism that he is so very very good at. Hillary is no slouch when it comes to campaigning either.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 12:39 PM
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22. That may not be quite it. Plenty of women are drinking the Koolaid,
still, and most unfortunately. Not all the mothers with their beloved ones lost in Iraq are Gold Star Mothers. Some are still rationalizing and in denial.

But what they WILL resonate AGAINST - is what dear little ol' newty did to his then-WIFE, who was still in the HOSPITAL, stricken with, and trying to recover from, CANCER - when he served her with divorce papers. Women, when reminded of that, will very likely not feel like voting for it.

All we have to do is remind people of THAT horrible, sinful abomination, and suggest that we'll be no better off than his stricken, jilted wife was. YES. Let's do it the newty way! Betray and abandon it when it's sick. Just kick it when it's down. And make sure you've kicked it WAY off to the side where it won't bother your beautiful mind... (oops - mixing miserable metaphors again - my bad!)
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 02:01 PM
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27. Newtster will ask for forgiveness in the name of The Almighty!
And it shall be granted. There is not one asshole who voted
for bush that will not vote The Newtster.
We better have someone better than Hillary up our sleeve
or we are going to get spanked by the Newtster.

I don't want to have to leave the US, but that would be the last straw for me.
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 01:58 PM
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26. Hillary has BAGGAGE and plenty of it.
That is not real world thinking.
Hill has BAGGAGE. And plenty of it.
She is pro war which takes away our best
weapon.

Hillary will activate the right like you have never seen.
Hillary will turn away anti-war voters.

Pukes will say 'we can't have a woman sailing the ship
during a time of WAR!!!'
Americans are dumb enough to believe shit like that.
By foolishly endorsing 'staying the course in Iraq' Hillary has check-mated herself before the first salvo.

Hillary cannot win. It is impossible.
With her new republican friendly agenda
even I would have a hard time voting for her.



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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:11 AM
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13. Allen, maybe and/or Romney in 08
Giuliani, McCain, and Hagel will never survive the GOP primary, and I don't think Republicans want to crash and burn by nominating someone like Brownback or Huckabee.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 08:45 AM
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15. Allen is the nominee I would fear the most. Giuliani is burnt toast
and you're dead right on Brownback, too. Sam Brownback is a MAJOR tyrant. What IS the matter with Kansas for sending him to the U.S. Senate?
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CAG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 10:02 PM
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7. Typical Newt strategy; starve govt, put cronies in charge to make sure
nothing labelled "federal govt" works, then tell the american people "See, look, govt doesn't work"

Bush is just being a good Newt soldier
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 10:12 PM
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8. Bingo. eom
Edited on Sat Feb-11-06 10:12 PM by Wordie
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 01:48 AM
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10. Sounds like Newt never got the memo
that NOLA is now a right wing social experiment.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 02:27 AM
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11. Updated, Newt? Or ELIMINATED?
Let me guess--PRIVITIZATION is the answer!!! No, cancel that--I forgot you were a dead pundit walking?

:eyes:
rocknation
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:03 AM
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12. The Republican Corruptocracy failed
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 09:31 AM
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16. Baloney
Just another harangue to seize power from the Bushes. "I can do compassionate conservatism better!" Oh yeah, what a demagogue. In the tone note well that fascist glory of the "big change, large bold change" which means destroying civil government and huge business projects, maybe monumentalism and a chicken in every pot sort of thing.

We've been hearing Gingrich's teeth grinding for years as Bush has slapped people in the face with lazy incompetence while promulgating EXACTLY the same things Gingrich lusts for.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 11:11 AM
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17. Er...Newt, we were doing just fine before the Republicans took over.
Your idiot party's idea of upgrading the government is to get rid of the National Weather station and put AccuWeather in charge. No thanks. Your party's ideas have killed enough people in this country.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 11:12 AM
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18.  the former House speaker said the government meltdown at all levels
An acknowledgment of total incompetence if I ever heard one...All levels includes the Congress.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 12:41 PM
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23. Uh, yeah, newt. Is that the government currently being run by YOUR
friends and cronies? That the same one we're talkin' about, here?
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 12:27 PM
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20. was watching The Fortune Cookie last night,the lying con man in that is
named Gingrich too.except in the movie he's likeable.
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michiganbuckeye1970 Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 12:51 PM
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24. Newt an alternative to the Religious Right
I think Newt is too intelligent to be embraced by the Religious Right...I'm not sure he is traveling in the right circles.

The Rolling Stone article about Sen. Brownback shows, I think, how the Republican party will be split. The fundamentalist right portion of the party is never going to be satisfied until it gets everything that it wants...I think the larger portion of the party, the fiscally conservative, socially moderate (maybe even to left of moderate)is not going to stick around as the far right continues to dig the talons in deeper and deeper.

I just wonder if somewhere, somehow, the dems realize this, which is why the core of the party continues playing it right down the middle. It's not done so much to force the Repubs to the right (those gaining the power in that party are going to do that on their own) but to gain the trust of the fiscally conservative/socially moderate crowd.

I say this as a Democrat who is still very disappointed that Alito was not filibustered.

In any case, I see Newt as maybe an conservative opportunist, who thinks he can also appeal to this group of voters. McCain, having been spanked by the right, is now willing to part with his soul, if it means gaining their blessing.

Next few years are going to be interesting. Just hope the Dems have the right personalities in place to capitalize.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:41 PM
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29. Things are bad when they're relying on ol' Jiffy Pop for a pick-me-up n/t
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Sgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 05:56 PM
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30. This is sad....
but I actually wish Newt was in power rather than the current idiots.

I disagreed with Newt on a lot of things -- but still think he has a better head on his shoulders than Bush, Frist, and Delay.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 11:07 PM
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31. is it good for us?
all these things are happening because Republicans simply can't govern! Newt does have a better head on his shoulders than Hastert or Bush, that is why he hopes to blame this on big government..not those who have the power to change this. If they can blame Democrats, terrorists, and trial lawyers for the inaction experienced during this hurricane...maybe Republicans can keep power! :puke:

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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 11:20 PM
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32. He actually looks good compared to
the maggots in power.
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