US Comments on Alleged New Abu Ghraib Photos

[sabra]

http://en.chinabroadcast.cn/706/2006/02/16/[e-mail]

US Comments on Alleged New Abu Ghraib Photos

US officials have given their reaction to the release by an Australian television network of photographs and video clips it said were previously unpublished images of the alleged abuse of Iraqis held in US military custody at Abu Ghraib prison.

US State Department legal advisor John Bellinger told reporters on Wednesday that the decision had been made not to release further photographs from the prison in Iraq.

"The US government felt that it was better that the photographs not be released, not because that there was anything to hide,¡­ but simply, that one, that we felt that it was an invasion of the detainees themselves to have these photographs come out and in addition it would simply fan the flames around the world and cause potentially further violence. "

[benburch]

1. In spite of a fully legal court order to do so! nt

[saigon68]

7. COURT ORDERS DON'T STOP THESE CLOWNS

They do whatever the fuck they want to

[malaise]

43. Yep

but someone needs to tell Bushco that they don't control the world.

These criminals know they have a lot to hide.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

2. Baloney

The reason the photos weren't released was because the whole myth that this was caused by a few "bad apples" would fall apart.

[alarcojon]

21. Bingo!

A handful of photos is one thing. An ever-expanding pile of them is another.

[saigon68]

42. an invasion of the detainees themselves to have these photographs come ou

what a crock of shit

[niyad]

3. not to mention the fact that there will be proof that we are war criminals

and really disgusting, horrid people.

[Punkingal]

4. What a completely stupid statement.....

"The US government felt that it was better that the photographs not be released, not because that there was anything to hide,­ but simply, that one, that we felt that it was an invasion of the detainees themselves to have these photographs come out and in addition it would simply fan the flames around the world and cause potentially further violence. "

He doesn't think there was anything to hide? If there is nothing to hide, why would they fan the flames around the world and cause further violence?

[PurpleChez]

17. At least we're courteous torturers,

concerned with our victims' privacy and all that. Huzzah.

[powwowdancer]

31. Indeed...

Concern for the Victims should begin BEFORE lit cigars are pressed into their buttocks, cyalume stick are shoved up their asses and grinning ghouls pull thier teeth. We've become the evil empire.

:dem:
powwowdancer out

[Jazzgirl]

40. They didn't care about the detainees when they were tortured.

n/t

[hippiechick]

5. 'Alleged' Abu Ghraib photos ?

Where the hell else would they be from ? A Super Bowl party ???

:shrug:

[Karenina]

15. A-FUCKING-LLEGED???

:shrug:

[tridim]

16. A frat house?

[0rganism]

30. Do they have frat houses in Hell?

Thanks to South Park, I know they've got condos. :silly:

[alarcojon]

22. Propaganda is a powerful thing

I didn't even notice the word at first.

[Bassic]

49. Yeah, that term get on my nerves too

But of course the media uses it like the fucking propaganda tools they are.

[arcane1]

6. "we felt that it was an invasion of the detainees themselves"

um, ok, we won't release pictures of us torturing people, because it's not fair to the people we tortured??

:wtf:

my head just spun completely off my neck, out the window, and into the wild blue yonder

[Plaid Adder]

11. I know.

I think the boat has already sailed in terms of violating their dignity.

Anyway, the SMH has blacked out the faces, so they are not immediately identifiable.

C ya,

The Plaid Adder

[wtmusic]

13. They argue that releasing the photos would violate Geneva

because it would humiliate the prisoners.

I shit you not. In filed court papers. :wtf: :grr:

[arcane1]

18. this must be their master plan for getting rid of all the liberals:

by blowing all of our minds with the sheer insanity of their words

[NanceGreggs]

8. "We felt that it was an invasion of the detainees themselves ..."

Of all the contemptable spin that come out of this government, THAT is the all-time low ...

[arcane1]

10. GMTA

:toast:

[tridim]

20. No, shoving light sticks up their ass is an invasion of the detainees

"nothing to hide" except light sticks shoved up their ass.

[wtmusic]

26. Yeah, but see, if no one finds out about it

they can still maintain their self-respect. Kind of like Cheney. Just make sure no one finds out.

:silly:

[MadMaddie]

9. It was an invasion of privacy of the detainee's....

Are you frickin kidding me....This is the best excuse they could come up with?
It wasn't because illegal torturing was occurring and that might fan the flames around the world?


They didn't release the photos because
<snip>
that we felt that it was an invasion of the detainees themselves to have these photographs come out and in addition it would simply fan the flames around the world and cause potentially further violence. "
<snip>

Just when you think it can't any more bizzare!!

:grr:

[Burried News]

12. Protecting the victims' privacy? Tell it to Dilawar.

http://bodyandsoul.typepad.com/blog/2005/05/most_of_whats_i.html
The death of Dilawar

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

14. Hmmm...how to choose the best form of "invasion"...

1). Have the photos released so that the international community can see what's going on behind closed doors and STOP IT, or...

2). Be "invaded" with fluorescent light tubes crammed into any available orifice while genetically challenged mutants like Lynndie England and her boneheaded squeeze snap some candids...

I'm guessing "1"...

:grr:

[uppityperson]

19. pshaw. nt

[NanceGreggs]

23. Look at these photos ...

... and tell me these people aren't NAZIS!!!!!

You'd swear you were seeing photos from Auschwitz - only worse!

[neweurope]

29. No. Not worse. Not even as bad yet. But you're getting there.

:cry:

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Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!

[saigon68]

44. AH YES FALLUJAH

A stray dog feeds on an Iraqi corpse. Marines are now hunting down stray animals grown fat on the flesh from corpses and which could harbor rabies Photo AFP/Cris Bouroncle.



December 9, 2004

FALLUJAH, Iraq - US troops fire off another volley of shots amid the trashed houses of Fallujah, hunting down new adversaries carrying a potentially deadly weapon that threatens to plague reconstruction efforts.

But this time the marines are not chasing down the insurgents who they defeated in a devastating assault on the city last month. Their quarry is stray animals grown fat on the flesh from corpses and who could harbor rabies.

[neweurope]

45. Always remember.

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Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!

[mike923]

24. Can somebody answer.....

Were these additional photos from the events that took place two or so years ago, or are these new photos of abuses that are happening right now?

I was very upset about the whole incident back then, and if there are recent photos that the abuse is still occuring, there is no way that the current administration could survive this.

Or, if this is just additional photos from back then, the story wouldn't pack as much punch. It would still incite rioting of much of the Arab world, but wouldn't near the political impact here.

[area51]

47. To my knowledge...

these new photos are from the same time period as the 1st set.

"Or if this is just additional photos from back then, the story wouldn't pack as much punch. It would still incite rioting of much of the Arab world, but wouldn't near the political impact here."

But how do we know torture isn't still going on? Because this nazi administration says so?

[Jacobin]

25. "not that there's anything to hide..."

Oh, so now they are publicly PROUD of this shit?

These 'people' are beyond amazing

[Judi Lynn]

27. We already knew the Bush admin. is famous for its humanity. n/t

[neweurope]

28. We haven't seen the worst yet by a damn sight. There are

pictures of children being mistreated, remember? That's what I want on the table.

The bad thing is: It would show the worst war crimes to all the world. And it's true it would fan the flames around the world even higher. But still: Those war criminals must be punished. More, it must be avoided that the European countries side with the USA in further wars.

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Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!

[BooScout]

32. Rummy cancelled his press conference scheduled.....

for today. He's a chicken shitted, lilly livered slime ball. JFC when the hell is America going to wake up and stop supporting this admisistration? This is not an isolated incident. Keep supporting the troops? Fuck no. Not when I keep seeing over and over again proof of abuse.

[VegasWolf]

33. "Just a few bad apples!" Nothing to see here, move along!

:puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke:

[pinniped]

34. Alleged, alleged, alleged.

BS.BS.BS.

Of course there wouldn't be any FN violence in the first place if * didn't rig the (s)elections and cheat the Merkans.

--it would simply fan the flames around the world and cause potentially further violence." --

[Up2Late]

35. Alleged? WTF?

Oh brother! :eyes:

[Rex]

36. But that is the idea...larger profits with larger wars.

nt

[Bucky]

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[OnyxCollie]

39. Wouldn't that be two things?

Support the troops, 'cause torture is hard work.:sarcasm:

[xchrom]

38. i think the explanation of not releasing the photos is as offensive as

the photos themselves.

alleged?

invasion of the detainees themselves to have these photographs come out -- what in the fuckin world does that MEAN?

and you're damn right it will fan the flames of violence -- if you hide with bullshit reasoning you countries acts of horror and cowardice it most certainly will fan the flames of violence and you sir are something worse than vile with that explanantion.

[Judi Lynn]

41. Here are three more which don't appear with the others.

The middle one is a thumbnail which will appear larger if you click it. Do you think this is the man who was bitten by the guard dog? We saw one man with a badly ripped thigh in the original set of photos.

http://www.newsgd.com/news/World1/200602160033.htm

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

46. Oh yeah sure, now we care about the detainees...

We don't want to embarass them with photos but hell strip them naked, humilate and beat them, well, that's just a-okay.

[NorthernSpy]

48. "this trial is a terrible invasion of my victim's privacy!"...

... declared the defendant, who conscientiously urged that the evidence be destroyed and the charges dropped.

:eyes:

[truthisfreedom]

50. secrets=good. truth=bad. secrets=good. truth=bad. secrets=good.

truth=bad.

oh, sorry, got caught up in the republican mantra.

[Tight_rope]

51. These comments are total BULLSHIT...It needs to be blown back

up their asses. We do they think they are fooling with this comment "we felt that it was an invasion of the detainees themselves to have these photographs come out and in addition it would simply fan the flames around the world and cause potentially further violence.".

I say "BULLSHIT" to that comment. I saw those pictures yesterday and it made me sick to my stomach. I was ashamed to be an American yesterday but today I'm disgusted of being an American. To think "OUR" government/military did this to other human beings, try to cover it up, and now turning around and saying "IT's NO BIG DEAL...MOVE ALONG PEOPLE NOTHING TO SEE HERE"...Fuck that. I'm going to e-mail these new photo's to everyone I know.