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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 08:32 PM
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US attacks Iraq abuse images leak
The US has said images broadcast on Australian TV showing the apparent abuse of Iraqi detainees by US soldiers should not have been released. A US defence department official said the images could "further inflame and cause unnecessary violence".

The official said action had already been taken against US soldiers guilty of abuse at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib jail.
Australian TV has now aired previously unseen images of the apparent abuse of prisoners in Abu Ghraib in 2003.
The images on SBS TV are thought to be from the same source as those that caused an outcry around the world and led to several US troops being jailed.

The new images show "homicide, torture and sexual humiliation", SBS said.
The SBS' Mike Carey told the BBC the images screened by his network on Wednesday mark a "leap in seriousness" from previously released images of abuse at Abu Ghraib.

"We thought we had a responsibility first and foremost once we had obtained these photographs to broadcast them," he said.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4718328.stm
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 08:34 PM
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1. How dare they expose our tyranny!
We do our dirt on the Q.T. and we're supposed to get away with it!


My country 'tis of thee... :(
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 08:35 PM
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2. simple solution: don't torture people and promote those authorizing it
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 08:47 PM
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It hurts when mommy slaps your hand for being in the
cookie jar, huh shrub.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 08:47 PM
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3. How many more leaks are needed to sink this ship? n/t
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 08:52 PM
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4. But if it was the same "bad apples" who did this,
why weren't the photographs used in evidence at their trials? If it shows worse atrocities, then shouldn't their sentences be longer? Or could it be that said photos show different people-and don't they make one wonder why higher ups haven't been prosecuted?
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:33 PM
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9. They weren't honest when it first broke, and did nothing to remedy the
situation, all the did was lie, cover up and excuse. Of course this sort of stuff is going to continue to crop up and bite them in the ass. Yet the claim it was irresponsible to broadcast them. Had they dealt with this properly from the beginning (or better yet, never allowed for these atrocities from the start) there would be nothing to be broadcast. But no, they will blame the Aussie press when things escalate in the ME, just like they blamed Whittington for getting in Cheney's line of fire, just like they blamed....and blamed, and blamed. When the hell are we kicking these secretive, irresponsible a-holes outta the WH anyway?
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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 08:59 PM
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5. Should not have been released? How about ...
The things depicted in the images should never have happened in the first place!
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:15 PM
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6. So, now these are no longer ALLEGED photos??
:rofl:

DC torture Fuck ups! What assholes.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:20 PM
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7. no but it's 'apparent abuse' .
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:25 PM
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8. Abu Ghraib has come back to haunt the US government.
The latest pictures from the prison are another disaster for the image of the US presence in Iraq(formally an occupation at the time the photos were probably taken, in 2003). They could hardly have come out at a worse time, amid the furore over the Danish cartoons and immediately after the emergence of a video showing British troops beating up Iraqi protesters.

The US government is taking refuge in declaring that these are images from some time ago, refer to isolated incidents which have been investigated and which are no longer taking place. The pictures appear genuine in that some are very similar to the ones upon which convictions have already taken place. Some, though, are even worse and show several dead bodies, one with its heart removed, perhaps after a post-mortem.

There are no proper explanations for how the victims died, though the Australian channel that showed them said they did die at the prison, apparently during a riot.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4717486.stm
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:44 PM
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10. maybe if the U.S. military stops torturing people...
...that will do more to avoid inflaming and causing violence. Pigs.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 10:48 PM
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11. It's not the TORTURE...it's the RELEASE!
DON'T INVADE INNOCENT NATIONS, DON'T TORTURE, RAPE & MURDER INNOCENT PEOPLE and gee, there won't be any "UNNECESSARY VIOLENCE" ...stupid MFers.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 12:09 AM
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13. Exactly
I was so angry earlier when I first saw a report on the USs reaction to the photos. I said something similar in GD.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=435301&mesg_id=435301

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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:51 PM
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12. "...further inflame and cause unnecessary violence".

Can you imagine if the entire truth about

*the 2000 and 2004 "elections"
*Katrina
*the Iraq invasion
*the special relationship between Dumbyass, Foulwell, and RobberSon

was leaked?
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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 12:27 AM
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14. I'm sick of conservative hypocrisy
Many Bush Bots and Neo Cons are quick to support this illegal and immoral war as being necessary to free the people of Iraq from Saddam. But then they have been going into a general hate all Muslims mode and actually like the deaths and torture because they feel Islam a 'devil' religion whose adherents should be wiped out or forcibly converted from their faith,

Their hypocrisy is ugly.

Their stupidity and maliciousness appalling.

And their continued slouch toward fascism inexcusable.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 12:27 AM
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15. the images could "further inflame and cause unnecessary violence".
the IMAGES ???!!!

what kind of spin is that? good lord, they simply have no shame. and to pretend the issue is an issue from the past? this is really wretched.
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