America not interested in dominating Iraq: Clinton

[ECH1969]

Former US President Bill Clinton has said that America is not interested in dominating Iraq. Instead he has said the US would like to see a representative government ruling the country.

"Saddam was a bad man. He is gone. Now we want that the people of Iraq should have a decent future," Clinton said.

Pointing out the terrorist attack in Jordan, Clinton said these attacks were largely from Iraq. "If you had seen the condition of the victims of the attack, you would have realised its intensity," he added.

The President also said that America was not interested in dominating Iraq and instead wanted normalcy to prevail in the country. He added that as the process of restoring normalcy in Iraq progresses, "the US would draw down their forces."

http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1629155,0008.htm

[Demeter]

1. Talk About Wishful Thinking!

Don't be an ostrich, Bill.

[badgervan]

7. Bases

Explain the huge, expensive military bases being built around Iraq. Anyone think they are being built for the Iraqis? We are there long term, don't let anyone say different. Just one more example of Great Leader's lies.

[wtmusic]

2. ?

Someone please 'splain me WTF this is coming from...and why Clenis is associating the Bush administration with America.

[Buck Rabbit]

43. He wants the end seat at the table this Thanksgiving.

He is tired of sitting between Jeb and Babs and to wants to sit opposite of G "Daddy" B.

[grytpype]

3. I really wish Clinton would shut up.

Every time I see him quoted in the media he is defending the Bush administration in some way.

SHUT UP BILL

[chaumont58]

21. I'm with you

How the hell does he know to speak for what America wants? Right now, the god damn bushies speak for the American government, not Clinton. I realize there is little to choose between DLCers and the bushies, but I wish the god damn DLCers would not claim to speak for America. They don't speak for my America.

[Harper_is_Bush]

34. How is he defending Bush? Everything he's saying is absolutely correct.

Do you think America IS interested in dominating Iraq?

Maybe you're confusing "America" with "Bush administration". They are two very different things, and I think that's what Clinton is talking about.

Good for him.

[cornermouse]

4. Newspaper in India

That's the why.

[Benbow]

11. I don't think so - India is reported to be cosying up to Iran n/t

[cornermouse]

17. That is the why.

[Benbow]

28. OIC n/t

[MisterP]

22. ???

[Gloria]

5. You're not speaking for BUSH's America, Bill....so please

stick to your AIDS work....

[msongs]

6. America does not, the bushco neocons do! bill is right again nt

[mac56]

14. That's the way I took his comments, too.

Americans don't want it.

The PNAC does.

The PNAC doesn't equal America.

The big dog knows what he's doing here.

[Theduckno2]

26. His comments run directly counter to the notion of permanent bases.

His stated position:

1. Runs directly counter to the imperialistic intentions of the PNAC'ers,

2. Claims to representative of the views of the majority of the U.S. citizenry(which it is).

3. Does this without the danger of the labels of being unsupportive of the troops or defeatist being attached.

I say well done for someone in the awkward position of being ex-President.

[mazzarro]

41. And what bushco neocons do is the thing that matters

regardless of what Clinton preaches - deceptively I might add!

[sandnsea]

8. Draw down the forces

to reduce the targets and diffuse the violence.

Hillary is the one that screwed up the benchmark requirements and military withdrawal by the end of the year.

[Trillo]

9. Note he didn't say "democratically elected" representative government.

It sure would be nice if we had one of those "democratically elected" representative governments in the U.S.

[Benbow]

10. So the huge new US military base at Balal is a holiday camp? n/t

[blm]

12. Hey Bill - demand BushInc declare NO PERMANENT BASES for starters.

You could have backed up John Kerry on that since he's only been saying it for over THREE YEARS NOW!

[HuffleClaw]

13. WHAT the hell has he been drinking lately?

not that bushco. brand kool-aid surely?

[RedSock]

15. he's even adopting the second-grader speaking habits of *

"Saddam was a bad man. He is gone. Now we want that the people of Iraq should have a decent future," Clinton said.

:eyes:

[tatertop]

20. when did he become another lying Bush-apologist?

[mikita]

16. another liar n/t

[xchrom]

18. so what's with the big ass permanant basses then?

[daleo]

19. America doesn't want to dominate Iraq

Just its oil.

[0007]

23. I love you, but you don't give a fuck about me as long as your

'ol lady and you get what you want, 'eh B O?

[OneBlueSky]

24. well . . . I know he's not stupid . . . and I doubt very much . . .

that he's naive . . . which, I believe, leaves only one possibility . . . i.e. he's lying . . .

now the only thing I'd like to know is why . . .

[BeHereNow]

25. What HORSE SHIT.

The Clintons ARE every bit the Bush Cabal.
Do they REALLY think we are that STUPID?
AS IF Clinton does not know fully well, as the Bush
administration did, that Iraq would be consumed by civil war between the Sunni
and Shiite?
What a fuck head he is.
What utter crap and nonsense for the man to
make a statement like that.
BHN

[Harper_is_Bush]

36. Exactly which part of his statement do you take such strong issue with?

You can see my opinion near the top...post #34.

I'm at a loss to understand yours....other than you think Clinton thinks you're stupid for some reason.

[BeHereNow]

40. Yes, and he thinks you are "stupid" too along with everyone else.

Even the most modestly informed citizen of the world knows
enough to know this statement is nonsense and completely
based in fairytale land even though old Bill is FAR more
educated than most as to the situation in Iraq.

Let me use the following as an example:
"Instead he has said the US would like to see a representative government ruling the country.
"Saddam was a bad man. He is gone. Now we want that the people of Iraq should have a decent future," Clinton said."

Bill KNOWS, as well as the rest of the players, that this is a RIDICULOUS
thing to say. Bill knows that a representative government is NOT possible
in Iraq, but it sure sounds nice to say so, eh?
Why is it not possible? Because the country is in the
middle of a civil war which will most likely end up with
extremist dictorial leadership- preferably those who will
rubber stamp everything that benefits the "Empire."
You know something like say, Uzbekistan or Azerbijian?
Bill KNOWS this.
Bill is very aware that Shiites are slaughtering Sunnis.
So I guess if Bill means that sort of representative
government, and you know damn well he doesn't,
all is going swimmingly!

Yet another ridiculous thing for old Bill to propose when he KNOWS
damn well it aint gonna happen in OUR lifetime:
There will be NOTHING even CLOSE to normalcy in Iraq
for at least a decade and maybe more.

He added that as the process of restoring normalcy in Iraq progresses, "the US would draw down their forces."

What ever old Bill is smoking, I wish he'd share some with me...

BHN

[Harper_is_Bush]

42. I don't think so. I think he's talking about what most Americans want.

Let me use the following as an example:
"Instead he has said the US would like to see a representative government ruling the country.
"Saddam was a bad man. He is gone. Now we want that the people of Iraq should have a decent future," Clinton said."

Bill KNOWS, as well as the rest of the players, that this is a RIDICULOUS
thing to say. Bill knows that a representative government is NOT possible
in Iraq, but it sure sounds nice to say so, eh?

It doesn't matter if a representative government happens or not, he's still reflecting what the majority of Americans would LIKE to see.

What do you want from him...a doom and gloom speech?
"Ohhhhh my oh my civil war is a' happnin' ladies and gentlemen!"
That would be sorta dumb and pointless, wouldn't it?

[BeHereNow]

45. No it would not be pointless-

It would be ONE LESS democrat espousing the
NONsense of the Bush cabal.
Why is it that Americans would rather be deluded,
have their politicians (or perhaps more aptly labeled,
their "Political American "Idols") enable
and perpetuate those delusions, than
FACE REALITY. As in the REAL WORLD view
of US foreign policy as it pertains to what is happening
in the ME?
Oh, that's right, the only "reality" Americans
want to face is "Reality TV!"
God FORBID, one of their elected representatives
present the GROWN-UP FACTS of the state of global events...
Sigh...
Bill KNOWS the reality which is why his statements
are even MORE ridiculous as presented to the world
audience. THEY KNOW he KNOWS the facts too-
which leaves no doubt in their minds that Americans
prefer delusionsal presentations over actually
FACING the results of what has been done in their
names.
Still don't get it?
I can't help you.
BHN

[Harper_is_Bush]

48. But he's not "expousing the nonsense of the Bush cabal"

Just because he's not bashing them doesn't mean he's expousing thier nonsense.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

27. Of course not, they are there just for the weather. They need the fourteen

bases to enjoy it even more.

[NuttyFluffers]

29. sometimes silence is golden, bill...

even if there is some nuanced way to read this (and i'm sure there is), there's going to be a lot of people who are going to just exploit this for their twisted ends. no need placing yourself in that situation when you can do more good elsewhere, or by speaking more directly (where there's a distinct argument and one side is definitely in the wrong). oh well...

[leesa]

30. Oh, that's a good one, Bill. I get it, not Iraq, just the world.

[spanone]

31. Hey Bill, wake up and read the newspaper. We Dominate them NOW.

[cyberpj]

32. It's like he's the latest Bush mouthpiece. Did spying give them Bill dirt?

This Clinton Bush joint venture makes me mad as hell.
Mad enough to campaign against any Hillary position.

[Harper_is_Bush]

37. Can you explain why this appears as a "Clinton Bush joint venture" to you?

thx

[BeHereNow]

46. Uh..see post 45 above- my latest reply to you

I am desperately trying to illustrate to you how
RIDICULOUS these statements are to the REST of the world.
Remember them?
Bill, as a "democrat," by making these statements
on a global stage leaves NO doubt in the
minds of the international audience that
WE are IDIOTS!
They KNOW he KNOWS.
The question on their minds is:
"ARE WE REALLY that STUPID to buy it?"
If so, who can blame them for hating us?
Their last hope- the democratic party of America.
Bill is a CORPORATIST- NO different that the rest
of the thugs running this country.
His statement, by its very ridiculousness
PROVES it to everyone except the people
in this country who refuse to educate themselves
in the matters of our foreign policy and its
effects
on the rest of the world.
Shaking head...
BHN

[Harper_is_Bush]

50. More questions than answers in that Clinton bash.

I am desperately trying to illustrate to you how
RIDICULOUS these statements are to the REST of the world.
Remember them?

Exactly which of his statements are you talking about and why are they ridiculous to the rest of the world?

Bill, as a "democrat," by making these statements
on a global stage leaves NO doubt in the
minds of the international audience that
WE are IDIOTS!

And again which statements are you referring to and why do you make this argument about them?

They KNOW he KNOWS.
The question on their minds is:
"ARE WE REALLY that STUPID to buy it?"

:tinfoilhat:

Bill is a CORPORATIST- NO different that the rest
of the thugs running this country.
His statement, by its very ridiculousness

Again, what statement.

You can repeat over and over again that a statement is "ridiculous" or whatever else, but without any form of explanation it's kind of pointless.

[Massachusetts]

33. America not interested in dominating Iraq: Clinton

Monicas' perfume damaged some of the "Big Dawgs" brain cells.

[VegasWolf]

35. Yes, America only wants Iraq's natural resources. nt

[Harper_is_Bush]

38. Good job President Clinton.

You are 100% correct, American does not want to dominate Iraq.

Thankyou for pointing out the truth. Now, Americans need to become informed about what's happening and reject the PNAC vision which is playing out at the moment.

[BeHereNow]

47. Could I suggest that the "education" movement you suggest

start with you ?
Or, can I offer you some more kool aid?
BHN

[Harper_is_Bush]

49. Are you saying you DON'T believe PNAC visions are playing out?

Or at least the train wreck unexpected results of PNAC policy.

Kool-aid?

[IndianaGreen]

39. What did Big Dog do, fuck Barbara Bush?

He sounds like one of her pups!

[Buck Rabbit]

44. He did Not have sexual intercourse with that women!