Tiggeroshii
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Tue Feb-21-06 09:27 PM
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Calif. Execution Postponed Indefinitely-Yahoo |
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By DAVID KRAVETS, AP Legal Affairs Writer 16 minutes ago
SAN FRANCISCO - The state on Tuesday postponed indefinitely the execution of a condemned killer amid a court battle over the state's method of lethal injection and the role doctors may play in the death chamber. State officials notified the federal courts they would be unable to comply with a judge's order to have a medical profesional administer a lethal dose of barbiturate to Michael Morales in the execution chamber, a court spokeswoman told The Associated Press.
It was unclear when the execution would be carried out. Prison officials were not immediately available for comment.
Morales, 46, was supposed to die by lethal injection at 12:01 a.m. But the execution was put off until at least Tuesday night after the anesthesiologists objected that they might have to advise the executioner if the inmate woke up or appeared to suffer pain.
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OldLeftieLawyer
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Tue Feb-21-06 09:37 PM
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How nuts are these people? Asking medical doctors to help kill a man - wanting them there to make sure he dies.
How nuts are they?
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Tue Feb-21-06 10:00 PM
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3. The whole death penalty thing is a sick shambles and outrage |
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It should be ended immediately.
Using doctors to kill people....
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Wed Feb-22-06 02:45 AM
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14. Thank you, I couldn't agree more and you know what? |
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The very ones who are the most for the death penealty are same sick bastards that are anti-abortion, and don't give a flying fuck about the child once it is born. I'm talking about all the twisted fundies out there!
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Wed Feb-22-06 12:04 AM
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11. That is part of the death penalty culture in the USA today.... |
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wanting to make it seem "clean", "medical", and of course.."painless". They strive for those things to lessen the political/public reaction to the DP.
Many people want to see killers die, but if that means the killers are going to suffer terrible pain that number drops significantly. Thus the quest for the clean/medical illusion.
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Wed Feb-22-06 10:29 AM
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17. physician-assisted homicide |
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is more palatable to the jeebuslovin' barbarian wingnuts than physician-assisted suicide. Nope. No hypocrisy there. None at all.
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OldLeftieLawyer
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Wed Feb-22-06 11:06 AM
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18. Make that "first degree," |
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while we're being sane here.
Welcome to DU, LB...........
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Tue Feb-21-06 09:41 PM
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2. Doctors response to assist in execution. |
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Edited on Tue Feb-21-06 09:45 PM by augie38
"Any such intervention would clearly be medically unethical," the doctors, whose identities were not released, said in a statement. "As a result, we have withdrawn from participation in this current process." http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/california_execution;_ylt=AuWNPhKzRUC9qGeRm5pbQVus0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--
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Wed Feb-22-06 02:32 AM
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Tue Feb-21-06 10:13 PM
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4. If he is not dead by tomorrow |
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He may be alive for the rest of his life. Death warrant expires tonight and the sentencing judge is now opposing the death sentence (Asked Austrian Groping Beefcake grant clemency after new evidence was uncovered because of a jailhouse snitch)
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Tue Feb-21-06 10:39 PM
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Ah, thanks for the information. We can hope.
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Tue Feb-21-06 11:51 PM
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the woman he raped and savagely murdered didn't have much hope as she took her last breath and faced her death alone and in excrutiating pain.
i have no fucking sympathy for this piece of excrement. morales is a monster.
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Tue Feb-21-06 11:57 PM
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10. Do not assume that anyone opposed to the death penalty and |
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the execution of this man has sympathy for this "piece of excrement".
And don't assume that we don't feel empathy for the woman he raped and murdered.
THAT is your implication, and it's one made by pro-DP'ers over and over and it's sickening.
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Wed Feb-22-06 08:36 AM
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15. And killing Morales will change that fact how? |
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An eye for eye only ends up making the whole world blind. - Ghandi.
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OldLeftieLawyer
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Wed Feb-22-06 10:13 AM
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Yeah, well, in my opinion, life without parole is the proper punishment, and what the State proposes by way of execution is barbaric.
You don't agree.
Eh. That's what makes horse racing. Your embracing of the death penalty puts you in some questionable company - China, for openers.
I have no fucking sympathy for people who champion state-sponsored killing. I think their views are monstrous.
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Wed Feb-22-06 12:01 PM
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19. Being anti-death penalty does NOT equal "sympathy" for killers |
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It means we do not agree with State-mandated murder, ANYMORE than we agree with ANY murder. Life imprisonment without parole is, imo, the way to go.
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Wed Feb-22-06 01:04 PM
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I see no point on wasting energy defending this piece of scum.
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Wed Feb-22-06 03:43 PM
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21. we're in a minority on DU |
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nothing can change my mind. this piece of shit shouldn't breathe thesame air as we do. if he does remain alive let him spend the rest of his life lookinf at the horrow he has wrought....let's see if he even feels bad about what he's done.
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Wed Feb-22-06 04:57 PM
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24. What if we get it wrong? What if the person is innocent? |
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Who do we kill for that crime?
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Wed Feb-22-06 08:33 PM
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Being opposed to an execution via the apparatus of the state in no way implies "sympathy" for the condemned or "lack of empathy" for the victim. I'm used to hearing those "arguments" from the right wing - "arguments" which only seek to emotionalize the issue. I don't buy them from freepers, and I don't buy them from you.
I do not feel the need to convince you of my outrage and anger at Morales's crime or of my sadness and deep sympathy for his victim. You have no right, and no grounds, to presume to know how I feel about the matter.
I feel the state has no business being involved in the machinery of death. That's not even considering that they can't guarantee that everyone killed so far has been guilty. Unless you believe Bush, of course.
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Tue Feb-21-06 10:54 PM
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7. Did you REALLY just write that "he may be alive for the rest of his life" |
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I guess Hawkeye is actually Dan Quayle! :D (Just messin!!!)
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:spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank:
That's an insult! :P
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Tue Feb-21-06 10:29 PM
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5. thank you for posting this, Tiggeroshii. eom |
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Tue Feb-21-06 11:54 PM
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9. What a proud & profound moment for the USA. I'm am so happy for you. n/t |
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Wed Feb-22-06 04:52 PM
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22. "First do no harm." I guess some people still believe in their oaths. |
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Wed Feb-22-06 08:13 PM
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26. This guy deserves to be executed, like, immediately |
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No question about his guilt, so it's not an issue of that.
This Morales person, at his freako cousin's request, smashed a 17-year-old girl's head open with a hammer (after first trying to choke her with his belt), then raped her unconscious body, before finally smashing her again to make sure she was dead.
Now he says that he can't get executed because the lack of a medical professional to assist in the execution would be "painful" for him.
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