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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 08:19 PM
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White House to Issue Own Katrina Findings
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060223/ap_on_go_pr_wh/katrina_washington_5

WASHINGTON - A White House assessment of the sluggish federal response to Hurricane Katrina calls for a better definition of the military's role during catastrophes, opening the door for the Pentagon to oversee government relief efforts in extreme cases, officials said Wednesday.

The "lessons learned" review of 125 recommendations, to be released Thursday, does not call for any resignations, despite recent demands — mostly by Democrats — for Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff to step down. It also recommends keeping the beleaguered Federal Emergency Management Agency under Chertoff's control, according to a Bush administration official.

But the document, which a congressional aide said approaches 200 pages, proposes some sweeping changes to federal response plans. They include better defining the military's role during response missions — potentially making the Pentagon the lead agency when state and local resources are overwhelmed, two officials said.

That would only happen in the worst of catastrophic disasters, such as storms of Katrina's magnitude and terror attacks, the officials said. Currently, the Homeland Security Department coordinates federal disaster relief missions under a national response plan it issued last year.


Wasn't KBR building some detention centers somewhere?
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 08:21 PM
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1. Brownie getting a Medal of Freedom? Or just Chertoff?
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 07:47 AM
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27. Just saw pinch-faced Frances Fragos Townsend on the tube
She is following the WHITE-WASH LINE perfectly
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Che_Nuevara Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 08:22 PM
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2. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Please.


"No one could have predicted the levees would break." - Michael Chertoff

"If it keeps on rainin', levee's goin' to break." - Robert Plant
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 08:22 PM
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3. Here we go.
Buckle up.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 08:23 PM
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What will they call it...
"Heckuva Job: Our Successful Post-Katrina Disaster Recovery".
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 08:23 PM
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4. WH statement:Nobody died, Nobody lied,Nobody cried,
Nobody tried...
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 08:23 PM
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5. "We did a heckuva job." - coMMandeR AWOL
eom
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 08:23 PM
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6. Breaking: School Children to Issue Their Own Report Cards.
:rofl:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 08:36 PM
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12. And Olympic skaters will judge themselves
Whoopee! Everyone gets a Gold Medal!
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 08:24 PM
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7. The military will do as good a job as their doing in iraq
i suspect

peace
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 08:27 PM
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8. Anytime the military's role is rolled out, it skeers me!
That could have been an option if there were some military left in this country. :eyes:
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 08:32 PM
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9. posse comitatus
'nuff said.

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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 08:49 PM
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15. Yep, Warner was directly pushing changing that right after Katrina
and was focusing on increasing the military's role during the Katrina hearings.
They have a clear agenda to use this catastrophe opportunistically to gain that increased power.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 10:16 AM
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30. and also a week or so ago when House issued its report.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 08:34 PM
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10. Yeah, and less oversight!
In fact, let's give Knuckles Kerik another go at confirmation :eyes:
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 08:36 PM
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11. OJ Simpson launched his own investigation too (n/t)
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 08:36 PM
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13. They must be taking stupid pills. Put Pentagon in charge?
That's thier solution?
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 02:10 PM
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37. Sell the security of our armed services and ports, then put natural
disasters in the hands of the Pentagon. Any one find ANY reasoning here??????
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 08:41 PM
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14. That headline...
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I'm laughing harder than I have all day!
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 08:49 PM
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16. Wh investigates itself, says "send military in"?
ON the 1 hand, very funny. On the other, marital law at the drop of a hat (per pres. perogative I mean. Not that they reacted at all the hats dropping after Katrina).
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 08:50 PM
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17. What a Waste of Trees
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 09:26 PM
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18. They're using this as an opportunity to lie and take more rights
from the people. This time under the guise of and giving them to the military for our safty in disaster.

Final findings will show that the victims were at fault - only the poorest black ones, as well as all dem politicians in the state. Michael brown will of course be deemed a hero as will bush.

Since they now have no course of action that isn't dealt with by lying and looting, as well as taking our rights away, I think we should all be more afraid than we've ever been. They really do believe they have a blank check on America and are using it now.

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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 11:33 PM
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19. Lemme guess, it's titled - - "Mission Accomplished".
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 11:36 PM
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20. White House Katrina findings - the cake was great
And the guitar lessons are coming along.
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 12:17 AM
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21. In other words, shiny gold medals all around.
While they point the finger at Democrats.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 12:29 AM
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22. When I saw the title I thought it was from the Onion! nt
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 12:40 AM
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23. Okay, this is what I foresee...
White victims are resourceful, finding food and water, and not placing a burden on the taxpayer by asking for help. Black victims loot, and are either shot on sight, or sent off to KBR detention centers for their crimes. Maybe I'm wrong, but this is what I can see happening.

I am white, by the way, so can hardly be accused of being racist. We saw the same thing happen in New Orleans, and if the military takes control of natural disasters, we will see it on a much wider scale. I wish I were wrong.
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DeltaLady Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 07:06 AM
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24. I concur.:grr:n/t
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 11:55 AM
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35. And what worries me...
is these new detention center will be use for the 'evacuees' as emergency shelters. How many from Katrina are not accounted for. I don't trust a word these people say. At the risk of sounding like a RW nut...I fear my gov more than the floodwaters.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 02:02 PM
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36. So do I
and I hate feeling this way, but after more than 5 years of Chimp, it's the only way I can feel. As far as the many unaccounted for after Katrina, the government does not want us to know how high the death toll really was.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 07:20 AM
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25. Nazis issue report investigating Concentration Camp Abuses
Edited on Thu Feb-23-06 07:20 AM by tom_paine
and finds themelves totally blameless!

The only differences between the Busheviks and the Nazis are almost all now merely a matter of degree.

Except overt racism and wholesale violence.

And I wonder how long the Busheviks can keep from embracing those Right-Wing "virtues", given a One-Party State with no checks and balances and little to no Free Press.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 07:22 AM
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26. oh, how special! please send me three copies!
i'm out of toilet paper!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 10:14 AM
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28. "White House Fact Sheet:" and full report here.





On the Net:

Full White House Report: http://www.whitehouse.gov/reports/katrina-lessons-learned/index.html

White House Fact Sheet: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/02/20060223.html


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/katrina_washington&printer=1;_ylt=AoHKd.lJZiBR4cdKoUdhcO0Gw_IE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3MXN1bHE0BHNlYwN0bWE-
White House Issues Its Own Katrina Report

By LARA JAKES JORDAN,
Associated Press Writer

30 minutes ago

A White House report concluded Thursday that inexperienced disaster response managers and a lack of planning, discipline and leadership contributed to vast federal failures during Hurricane Katrina.

The 228-page report by White House homeland security adviser Frances Fragos Townsend urges changes in 11 key areas — mainly in better disaster relief coordination among federal agencies — before the next hurricane season begins June 1. It also found "significant flaws" in the national response plan issued last year by the Homeland Security Department.

"Though there will be tragedies we cannot prevent, we can improve our preparedness and response to reduce future loss and preserve life," Townsend wrote in a letter to President Bush included in the report.

She said the transformation envisioned by the report "will require a sustained commitment over time by the federal government as well as by state and local governments that have essential duties in responding to disasters."
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 10:16 AM
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29. Townsend made the rounds on morning shows-keep repeating this was
a 'forward looking' report (not look back)
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 10:30 AM
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31. Of course, The Executive Office of the President accepts no responsibility
for its lack of response before, during and after Katrina.

It should come as no surprise to anyone that they'd pass the blame on to lower-level personnel.

No way in four lifetimes that The White House is gonna say "We screwed up, and caused the deaths of thousands of people, a diaspora of hundreds of thousands more, and brought grief and misery to the people of the greater New Orleans metropolitan area." :cry:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 10:48 AM
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32. WH compares Katrina to 1871 chicago fires and 1906 SF earthquake.
geech!!

Written in an even, methodical tone, the report characterizes Katrina as the storm of a century, comparing its destruction in New Orleans to the deadly Chicago fires in 1871 and the earthquake and fire in San Francisco in 1906. It calls Katrina the nation's deadliest natural disaster since Hurricane San Felipe in 1928.

It also describes Katrina as the first U.S. disaster — natural or man-made — with damage estimates approaching $100 billion.

The White House review comes a week after a special House committee issued its own findings that faulted every level of government for the slow response. The scathing House report, written by Republicans, found that earlier involvement by President Bush would have speeded up the federal response.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 10:49 AM
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33. i heard they looked to the past ---but this is not what I expected.
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antonialee839 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 10:51 AM
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34. Heckuva jobs all around.
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