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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 03:18 PM
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World Court Asked to Rule on Genocide
Sunday February 26, 2006 7:46 PM

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By ARTHUR MAX

Associated Press Writer

THE HAGUE, Netherlands (AP) - Generals and politicians have been convicted of genocide, but the U.N.'s highest court will consider Monday whether a nation - in this case Serbia - can be guilty of humanity's worst crime.

The stakes potentially include billions of dollars and history's judgment.

Thirteen years after Bosnia filed the case with the International Court of Justice, its lawyers will lay out their lawsuit against Serbia and Montenegro - the successor state for the defunct Yugoslavia - charging it with a premeditated attempt to destroy Bosnia's Muslim population, in whole or part.

``Not since the end of the Second World War and the revelations of the horrors of Nazi Germany's 'Final Solution' has Europe witnessed the utter destruction of a people, for no other reason than they belong to a particular national ethnical, racial, and religious group as such,'' said the lawsuit's opening paragraph, drafted for the Bosnian government by American lawyer Francis A. Boyle.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-5649162,00.html

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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 03:28 PM
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1. Fallujah
What about Fallujah?
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 03:31 PM
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2. Or Iraq in general???
Edited on Sun Feb-26-06 03:31 PM by RC
Bombing numerous wedding parties gotta rank in there somewhere.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 03:34 PM
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3. EXACTLY - and how about the tons of Depleted Uranium
.
.
.

The USA has poisoned the ME with since Bush 1 ?

Bomb by bomb, bullet by bullet, the USA has outdone the damage of Hiroshima and Nagasaki 100 fold

As they intended

sick f**kers

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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 05:12 PM
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4. The lawsuit was written 13 years ago, though is still mistaken...
Edited on Sun Feb-26-06 05:21 PM by DRoseDARs
...in saying "Not since the end of the Second World War and the revelations of the horrors of Nazi Germany's 'Final Solution' has Europe witnessed the utter destruction of a people, for no other reason than they belong to a particular national ethnical, racial, and religious group as such." Cambodia was a site of genocide long before Bosnia was. There's also Rwanda the year before Bosnia's and Guatemala in 1982.


Iraq et al and Darfur in Sudan cannot be cited to criticise the wording of the lawsuit since they occured after the lawsuit was authored.

Edit:
Here's a good resource on genocides:
http://www.ppu.org.uk/genocide/g_genocide_intro.html
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 02:53 AM
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7. note: "Europe"

"Not since the end of the Second World War ... has Europe witnessed ..."

I think it plainly means Europe "witnessing" as in "experiencing". Obviously, whoever wrote it was quite aware of the genocides in Cambodia and Rwanda; they were making the point that this happened in Europe, for the first time since what everyone had hoped (and more or less assumed) would be the last time, in Europe.


More generally, i.e. commenting on the thread as a whole, it's a little odd how most responses to this topic seem to be about some other topic altogether. It usually seems that the only way anything can be discussed is by dragging the US into it somehow, even when a subject has nothing to do with the US at all ...

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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:04 AM
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12. I am beginning to lose track...
...of how many times I have argued against misappropriation of the term "Genocide" to describe all sorts of actions by the US, from Iraq to Cuba to Mexico. I am always accused of supporting said policy because I refused to call it something it was not. I hate this attitude. It basically says "We can justifiably use whatever negative word we want to describe anything which we consider to be bad." It is a depressingly anti-intellectual attitude.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:16 AM
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13. it is that

It is a depressingly anti-intellectual attitude.

I dunno which came first ... the navel-gazing ethnocentricity I see in it, or the anti-intellectualism you see. ;)

Horse and carriage? Chicken and egg?

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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:41 AM
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10. What about it? n/t
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Briar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:46 AM
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11. It's only genocide
when a western, pro free-market country isn't responsible.
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 05:44 PM
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5. Fallujah. Fallujah. Fallujah.


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Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!
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Mr.Green93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 08:42 PM
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6. What about the u.s.?
It was founded on genocide and has never stopped.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 02:55 AM
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8. what about the US? what about Fallujah? What about d.u.?

What have any of those things got to do with the subject of this thread??

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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 07:39 AM
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9. East Timor
Covered up so well, hardly anyone has even heard of the place.
1/3 of the population eradicated since 1975, with support from the wealthy nations.
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