IAEA: Iran Not Seeking to Produce Nukes

[leftchick]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060228/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_nuclear

TOKYO - A report by the U.N. nuclear watchdog agency shows there is no proof Iran's nuclear program is aimed at producing nuclear weapons, Iran's foreign minister said Tuesday in Japan.


"They could not find evidence which shows that Iran has diverted from its peaceful purposes of nuclear activities in Iran," said Manouchehr Mottaki, who was in Tokyo to meet with Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi.

A confidential International Atomic Energy Agency report made available to The Associated Press Monday said that a more than three-year probe has not revealed "any diversion of nuclear material to nuclear weapons or other nuclear explosive devices."

But it also said that because of lack of sufficient cooperation from the Iranian side, the agency remains unable "to conclude that there are no undeclared nuclear materials or activities in Iran." The report suggested that unless Iran drastically increases its cooperation, the IAEA would not be able to establish whether past clandestine activities were focused on making nuclear arms.

[EuroObserver]

1. Impossible to prove a negative

...But it certainly helps if you are able to check everywhere you want to look for possible evidence that would disprove it.

[Massacure]

24. But it is possible to disprove a negative.

It is not necessarily necessary to prove something positive...

Sorry, I just got an B+ on a Calculus test today. :freak:

[oblivious]

2. Ha! That's proof that they are hiding a nuclear weapons program.

If they weren't hiding it, the IAEA would have found it. See? I don't know what more proof we need.

Well, that's the reasoning that little Bush guy used when the IAEA made the same statements about Iraq.

[EuroObserver]

3. Exactly.

But ElBaradei clearly gave warning (at least, as I was able to pick up, in Spanish, more than a month ago - see other thread on this here) that he was feeling very frustrated in relation to Iran while continuing to try to be as fair as possible in the circumstances...

Also, I remember his body-language that day in 2003 in the UN security council (Powell with his little test-tube, etc.) when Hans Blix seemed a little wobbly...

[jayfish]

8. And After The Bombing Is Over And The Smoke Clears...

and it comes out (which it always does)that Iran wasn't pursuing a nuclear weapon; the administration and its' toadies will proclaim, "everyone in the whole wide world thought Iran was after nukes. No reasonable person thought they weren't".

Jay

[Heewack]

4. The IAEA didn't say that.

"IAEA: Iran Not Seeking to Produce Nukes"

The real title: "IAEA Cites Tehran's Lack of Cooperation"

"But it also said that because of lack of sufficient cooperation from the Iranian side, the agency remains unable "to conclude that there are no undeclared nuclear materials or activities in Iran." The report suggested that unless Iran drastically increases its cooperation, the IAEA would not be able to establish whether past clandestine activities were focused on making nuclear arms."

[Tempest]

5. Yahoo changed the article title

They do it all the time when the original title is negative to the administration.

[Heewack]

6. Here's one from the NYT

U.N. Agency Says It Got Few Answers From Iran on Nuclear Activity and Weapons


VIENNA, Feb. 27 — Iran has accelerated its nuclear fuel enrichment activities and rejected demands of international inspectors to explain evidence that had raised suspicions of a nuclear weapons program, according to a report by a United Nations agency. That could make it easier for the United States and its European partners to seek punitive action in the Security Council.

The report laid out a long list of fresh examples in which it said Iran had stonewalled the agency, responding with incomplete and ambiguous answers and refusing repeated requests to turn over documents and information.

It called it "regrettable and a matter of concern" that Iran has not been more forthcoming after three years of intensive agency verification.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/28/international/middleeast/28iran.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

[Tempest]

7. Who cares about the NYT article?

You claimed the original poster didn't get the title correct on the Yahoo story when she did.

[Heewack]

10. Why would I suspect they changed the title?

The link when I read it read as I posted.

[Tempest]

12. If you're not familiar with Yahoo news, you wouldn't

But those of us who are, know they do it all the time.

Next time don't be so hasty to make accusations.

[leftchick]

15. I copied and pasted the original headline

It is not my fault that YAHOO changes headlines if "somone" doesn't like them. It happens daily.

[daleo]

9. So they can't prove a negative (the IAEA)

"But it also said that because of lack of sufficient cooperation from the Iranian side, the agency remains unable "to conclude that there are no undeclared nuclear materials or activities in Iran.""

This is a variation on the phony reasoning behind the Iraq invasion.

[stop the bleeding]

11. IAEA???? who is that?? said the awol chimp n/t

[Earth_First]

17. "He he..I got me a kick ass beanbag from IKEA once" said the awol chimp

[stop the bleeding]

18. now that is funny, LOL

:rofl:

[EuroObserver]

13. Leaking diplomats and k&r.

"A confidential International Atomic Energy Agency report made available to The Associated Press Monday" (this thread).

"A confidential report by Dr ElBaradei, supplied to Vienna diplomats ahead of next week's meeting and obtained by the Guardian" (still a separate DU thread).

Hmm. Diplomats leaking like sieves. A little unusual. Looks like we are being prepared for the worst.

[stop the bleeding]

19. Good find EO - the shit is finding it's way to the fan n/t

[Gregorian]

14. Well, Iraq had no WMD's.

These are irrational beings we are dealing with (Bush admin.). Rich immature men who are used to getting everything they want, when they want it, without any regard to the consequences. Including a media to shade things to look the way they want them to look.

[jseankil]

16. Anyone have the oil reserve numbers for Iran?

?

[Earth_First]

20. OPEC share of world crude oil reserves:

[EuroObserver]

23. OPEC. Hmm. I gather there is some debate

as to whether Iran or Russia are No.2 as regards 'reserves'.

[TheVirginian]

21. ....According to Iran's foreign minister. n/t

[oblivious]

22. According to the IAEA after 3 years' investigation: NO SECRET NUKE PROGRAM

para 5:
A confidential International Atomic Energy Agency report made available to The Associated Press on Monday said more than three years of investigation has not revealed a secret nuclear weapons program in the Islamic republic.

[HuffleClaw]

25. i highly doubt the IAEA will give bush the loophole he wants

but it won't matter, bushco. has made its plans for iran clear, they are gonna form a 'coalition' and go to war.