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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 03:33 PM
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Bush: U.S. Won't Get Into Iraq Civil War
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1671087&page=1

VARGAS: Let's move to Iraq. :eyes: This has been a rough few days in Iraq since the bombing of the mosque in Samarra. There's been a lot of sectarian violence. What is the policy if, in fact, a civil war should break out or the sectarian violence continues? Are you willing to sacrifice American lives to get the Sunnis and the Shiites to stop killing each other?



BUSH: I don't buy your premise that there's going to be a civil war. There's no question that the bomber of the mosque is trying to create sectarian violence, and there's no question there was reaction to it. On the other hand, I had the duty, which I did, to call these leaders, Shi'a and Sunni leaders, as well as Kurdish leaders.



And the response was that we understand this is a moment that we've got to make a choice if we're going to have sectarian strife or whether or not we're going to unify. And I heard loud and clear that they understand that they're going to choose unification, and we're going to help them do so.



VARGAS: But what is the plan if the sectarian violence continues? I mean, do the U.S. troops take a larger role? Do they step in more actively to stop the violence?



BUSH: No. The troops are chasing down terrorists. They're protecting themselves and protecting the people, and — but a major function is to train the Iraqis so they can do the work. I mean the ultimate success in Iraq —

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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 03:34 PM
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1. WAIT - we won't get into their civil war?
BUT WE FUCKING HELPED START THE THING

:banghead:
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 03:38 PM
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5. We did not attack Iraq...
They walked in front of our Blitzkreig.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 04:01 PM
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22. And we only had one beer at lunch.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 03:39 PM
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9. Cause? Effect?
oh that is so OLD logic.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 05:56 PM
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39. And Our Soldiers Are Still Targets There
Gotta rename the Potomac De Nile!
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 09:15 PM
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43. he better ask Dick. Dick says we can't abandon our "allies" in Iraq...
not trying to stop a civil war sounds a lot like abandonment to me.
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 12:47 AM
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48. We CAN"T get into their civil war!!! What a dumbass!!!
Bush, not anyone here. If we were to get involved, it not longer is a civil war. A civil war is a war in which the parties within the same country or empire struggle for national control of state power. (Wikipedia.org)

I can't beleive that this dumbass is running our country....
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 03:35 PM
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2. Bush getting ready to leave and blame Iraqis for the coming disaster
I knew it would happen. I just thought it would happen two years ago.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 03:35 PM
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3. too late!
as long as our troops are propping up the government, we're involved in any civil war
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sandrakae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 03:36 PM
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4. UH. How can we not get involved when we are right in the middle of it.
Does he plan on pulling our troops out as soon as civil war starts? I think not.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 03:39 PM
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6. Maybe he is going to use the plan prosposed by.......
Murtha. Nah what am I saying they have never had a plan and changing MO now might show weakness-or some idiocy like that I lose track after a while.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 03:40 PM
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10. Nope cause we gotta stay the course....
:sarcasm:
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 03:39 PM
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7. So much for the Pottery Barn rule.
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 03:39 PM
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8. We're buiding permanent bases there
Americans will NEVER be told that this is a civil war - no matter the truth. He will just continue to call it an "insurengency" forever, and US soldiers will ONLY be "chasing down terrorist and "protecting the people" forever....
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 03:41 PM
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13. Maybe that is why Vargas tried to get him to run away with her
"Let's move to Iraq"

I actually laughed out loud when I read that.
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 05:29 PM
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36. there're US corporate interests to protect in Iraq
Halliburton is still making money hand over fist.
we won't leave til the oil is gone
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 03:41 PM
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11. the wisdom of king george
he is delusional,isn`t he?
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 03:41 PM
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12. at least * got the word 'sectarian' right
I wanted to smack the ever-loving shit out of John Warner over his Press the Meat appearance in which he continually refered to the budding Iraqi Civil War as "secular violence." Republicans truly are too stupid for words.

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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 03:42 PM
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14. The new tyrant of Iraq lost his memory?
** can't recall he and "his" already sent the U.S. on a mission to start it!

"U.S. Won't Get Into Iraq Civil War" - says the ignorant chimperror... :puke:

Or is he "just" lying again? (Re: "Mission accomplished") :shrug:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 03:44 PM
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15. See what he's gonna do is...
he's gonna send them over one of them bubbles he lives in. Nothing gets in. NOTHIN'! They'll be fine see. Everything'll be just fine no casualties just like he told the Rev'rend.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 03:45 PM
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16. It's as if he has been right about every else so far. Why would
anybody take his word on this?
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 03:46 PM
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17. Quick! Ask him what "sectarian violence" means...
Edited on Tue Feb-28-06 03:47 PM by KansDem
I want to see if it's the same definition as "sovereign nation."

Sectarian violence means that; it's sectarian. You're a -- your violence has been given sectarianity, and you're viewed as a sectarian entity.

edited for spelling

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 03:52 PM
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20. LOL
I love this part


And the response was that we understand this is a moment that we've got to make a choice if we're going to have sectarian strife or whether or not we're going to unify. And I heard loud and clear that they understand that they're going to choose unification, and we're going to help them do so.



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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 04:28 PM
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27. LOL !!!
You can't make this stuff up!

:rofl:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 03:50 PM
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18. when bush talks of his duty he sounds so so presidental.
NOT>
.......BUSH: I don't buy your premise that there's going to be a civil war. There's no question that the bomber of the mosque is trying to create sectarian violence, and there's no question there was reaction to it. On the other hand, I had the duty, which I did, to call these leaders, Shi'a and Sunni leaders, as well as Kurdish leaders.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 03:52 PM
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19. I truly believe he worships the false "Fortress god" mentioned
Edited on Tue Feb-28-06 03:53 PM by bobthedrummer
in Daniel 11:38. It is the BFEE. Iraq is involved in civil war.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 03:53 PM
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21. but will the US get OUT of it?
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 04:06 PM
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23. If that's the case, what are we doing there still?
Bring 'em home now!

Carl

Sheeler for US Senate
www.carlsheeler.com
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 04:30 PM
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28. "Bring 'em home now!"
Now thats the kind of Leadership we need!

Ain't no sense in walkin off a cliff cause the folks in front of me are headin that way...
- Anonymous
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 04:55 PM
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30. What's up with BUsh Iraq Super Bases?
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 04:10 PM
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24. We're not into nation-building, see?
Only nation-destroying. Role of the military and all...:eyes:
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 04:11 PM
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25. Bush:"As long as the oil facilities are secure, the Iraqis can go to hell"
Only a moron ever believed we invaded Iraq for the good of the Iraqi people.

We invaded Iraq for corporate profits. We will hunker down and guard the oil facilities.

The rest of Iraq will burn.
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subterranean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 04:24 PM
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26. She should have asked which "leaders" he spoke to
I doubt he could have remembered their names.
In fact, I doubt that he even called them at all.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 04:35 PM
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29. Whelp, there goes our "Exit Strategy!"
Because, as Steven Colbert pointed out last night on the Colbert Report, by definition an Iraqi civil war, "...means that we can't be a part of it! That's called an "Exit Strategy."

Links to the video at this link: <http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=536040&mesg_id=536040>
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 04:58 PM
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31. Aren't we the cause of the civil war?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 04:58 PM
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32. Freedom we brought them Freedom
What they do with it is on them.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 05:01 PM
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33. Outside of Faux News and Chris "BrokeBack Mountain" Matthews, No One
believes his bullshit any more.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 05:01 PM
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34. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength
Boy do we have a strong president
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 05:10 PM
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35. Fight amongst yourselves.....
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 05:34 PM
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37. What a waste of time.
Boosh is a flaming loony.
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Plaid Adder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 05:43 PM
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38. Oh for Christ's sake. We are IN their @#$! civil war already!
What, as if the destruction of the country and the continuing occupation have nothing to do with what's happening there now? Dude, we are propping up the government. We are involved until we go home, and after that, well, we're not literally involved in the war, but we will definitely be involved in teh consequences.

I cannot believe anyone ever let this man run anything, let alone this country.

C ya,

The Plaid Adder
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sheelz Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:28 PM
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40. Who's the "we"?
Think about it! :grr: He's playing with words again like Gonzales says "the program"
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 07:14 PM
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41. How generous of him. Let them talk amongst themselves, eh?
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 07:55 PM
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42. Gee... kind of a FLIP-FLOP huh.
Edited on Tue Feb-28-06 08:01 PM by LynnTheDem
US caused the violence in Iraq.

US was warned invading & occupying Iraq would result in exactly the violence we currently see in Iraq.

bush & Cabal went on & on & on about how we had to HELP THEM POOR IRAQIS being slaughtered by Saddam Hussein & his Purple Plastic People Shredder!

And NOW???

Oh well, fuck the Iraqis, US "won't get involved".

And some Americans STILL wonder why we're so hated.

And DO NOT EVEN DARE use the slaughtering in Iraq's civil war as excuse to invade & occupy Iraq 12 years from now, rightfuckingwingnuts!

"Oh we have to invade & occupy Iraq & slaughter tens of thousands coz 12 years ago Hussein killed Iraqis who were killing Iraqis in that uprising..."

:eyes: Rightwingnuts; stupidest MFers on the planet.
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subterranean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 10:18 PM
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44. Remember that statement
"I don't buy your premise that there's going to be a civil war."

He's been wrong about every aspect of the Iraq war up to now. No reason to think this will be any different.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:19 AM
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49. "I don't think anyone anticipated the breach of the levees"
Welcome to DU :hi:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 12:24 AM
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45. nominate
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 12:29 AM
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46. continued:---Bush says 'a few people" to are sowing violence. ummm


BUSH: No. The troops are chasing down terrorists. They're protecting themselves and protecting the people, and — but a major function is to train the Iraqis so they can do the work. I mean the ultimate success in Iraq — and I believe we're going to be successful — is for the Iraqi citizens to continue to demand unity.

And remember, one of the things that's lost during this troubled week — and there's no question it's a troubled week — was the fact that 11 million Iraqis, about two months ago, went to the polls and said, "We want to have a democratic government." So there's still a will of the people there that are interested in a unified government.

Secondly, we're working with the leaders to form this unity government, and we'll see how it goes. We're making pretty good progress though. And I think the bombers really caused the leaders to say, "Wait a minute. We now have got to project civil war or civil strife or sectarian violence."

And the other side of the equation has got to be to train the Iraqis to fight so that the people feel like there is a unified security force that's interested in protecting them from a few people who are trying to sow violence and discord.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 12:32 AM
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47. "my policy has not changed. To summarize it, as the Iraqis stand up, we...


... VARGAS: So let me make sure I understand you. No matter what happens with the level of sectarian violence, the U.S. troops will stay there?

BUSH: The U.S. troops will stay there so long as — until the Iraqis can defend themselves. I mean, my policy has not changed. To summarize it, as the Iraqis stand up, we will stand down.

And as you know, we've reduced troop levels this year, and that's because our commanders on the ground have said that the security situation in Iraq is improving because the Iraqis are more capable of taking the fight.

VARGAS: And if in fact the violence continues, will the Americans be forced to take a more active role in suppressing it?
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Radio_Guy Donating Member (875 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 09:49 AM
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50. Good
Maybe Iraq will stay out of our civil war when Bush declares himself pResident for life.
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 10:08 AM
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51. So glad George Dubai did his duty
and made that phone call.

It's hard work, being President.

Good Lord, he is totally out of touch. How is the United States of America going to survive the next 3 years with this fool???
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 10:56 AM
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52. WOW! He made phone calls!! I'm SOOOO impressed!
That's the extent of his 'duty', huh? :sarcasm:

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