Homicide car bombing in Turkey kill 17

[pinkpops]

What is with this "Homicide" tag. Are these guys cute or what?
My personal opinion - the act is neither heroic nor cowardly -
just something people do for their own reasons



http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,103157,00.html

[Wink]

1. FAUX News only ones using that tag.

Even the smirking chimp quit using "homicide bomber" (like any bomber isn't already trying to commit homicide). Now the nit-wit is using "suiciders". Ain't he the best?

[private_ryan]

2. their title is "Bombings at Istanbul Synagogues Kill 17"

either way it's not "homo", they use homicide bombers. They changed to homicide from suicide the day after Ari Fleicher started calling them that.

[pinkpops]

4. Sorry about the homo

I edited that. The headline is from the front page which took me there.

[Guaranteed]

3. Yeah don't bother with the Fox news reports

unless they have exclusives.

[pinkpops]

5. It just bugs me

That they claim to report and let you decide - then they editorialize in their headlines. Besides, this was an exclusive. Nobody else knew it was a homicide attack. They all thought it was a suicide attack, see?

[fizzana]

6. According to reports it was not a suicide bombing.

Security cameras apparently show someone walking away from the car before the explosion.

I'm going to a Bar-mitzvah tonight but we're in Los Angeles so I don't think there's much to worry about.

What a tragedy to happen on the day of a Bar Mitzvah which is such a celebratory event.

[MikeGalos]

7. The problem with "Suicide Bombing"

is that it sounds like the bomber's goal was to commit suicide and the other people killed were accidental casualties. While the bombers here were willing to die for their cause, it was hardly a case where the 17 innocent Jews praying were accidental casualties of a despondant person's suicide.

We need a better term to describe a racist, religious fanatic killing dozens of innocent people to advance his or her sick cause while coincidentally being willing to die in the attack.

Personally, I prefer "religious fanatic, racist, mass murderer" but I doubt FOX will be willing to go with that.

[pinkpops]

8. How about " Bomber kills self, 17 others"

That just describes what happened, if that's what happened, which apparently is not what happened.

[MikeGalos]

10. How about "Religious Fanatic Bombers Kills 17 Jews at Prayer"

and somewhere in the body of the article, "the bombers were believed killed in the bombing".

The "noble sacrifice" and "martyrdom" of the bomber deserve as little recognition as possible.

[pinkpops]

12. Just the facts

The motivation, claimed motivation, assumed motivation, might be something to look at over time. But attributing these in a headline, which is all of what many people will read, is inflammatory. Just look at you guys yelling at each other.

[MikeGalos]

13. Those ARE the facts

Or, do you think that two coordinated bombings of Jewish synagogues during prayers was just a coincidence.

Let's look at this another way, say it were two black churches blown up in the deep south in 1962. Let's also say that a white supremacist group took credit for the bombings. Would you object to a headline suggesting that the bombing of two black churches simultaneously and claimed by a racist group might have had racist motives?

If it were two abortion clinics and an anti-abortion group claimed credit, would you say that it was jumping to conclusions to say it was related to abortion rights?

If it were two gay clubs and a right-wing christian group claimed credit would you say, it's too soon to say it had to do with gay bashing?

Why is it so impossible for some people to admit that there are Jew haters out there?

[Darranar]

16. They should report, not assume...

We don't know who did this - it could have been (though 'm not saying it was, in fact I'm pretty sure it wasn't) the CIA.

The logic in deciding who did it is up to us, the readers, not the reporters. Assumptions are not facts.

[pinkpops]

18. There's plenty of hate to go around

And in my opinion this incident was motivated by hatred of Jews or the Jewish State. My initial complaint was that Fox has to use newspeak to describe it in their headline.

[Aidoneus]

14. where does it say "17 Jews" were killed?

reports suggest that the bulk of the casualties from this were Muslims, the area apparently predominantly a Muslim commercial district.

[MikeGalos]

or, How about "Anti-Semites Murder 17 Jews in Coordinated Attacks"

but, we can't admit that blowing up Synagogues is anti-Semitic.

Of course, if it were two Black churches in the South, nobody here would object to "Racists Murder 17 African Americans in Coordinated Attacks".

[mmm]

9. Gee, that describes the IDF quite well...

"religious fanatic, racist, mass murderer"

[DS1]

11. "Homicide Bombers" - Ari Fliescher's parting gift to the world

:eyes:

Other words, Murder Bombers indicate how f*cking stupid this tag is.

[MikeGalos]

17. Stupid sounding, it is

Redundant, however, it really isn't.

The radical left in the late 1960s blew up a lot of buildings. What they did, however, was to warn people to evacuate since their goal wasn't murder. These people's goal is mass murder and bombing is only the means.

They are murderers who use bombs and die in the process. The problem with "Suicide Bombers" is that it plays up everything but the real goal which is murdering lots of innocent civilians.

It's kind of like calling the guys at Columbine HS, "suicide gunmen". While it may be true that they died and used guns, it really isn't the point, is it?

[TahitiNut]

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