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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 03:06 PM
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Powell: U.S. made 'serious mistakes' in Iraq
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-powell09.html

Former U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell on Saturday said the United States has made "serious mistakes" during the Iraq war that have led to the rising violence the country now faces.

Powell, in his keynote speech at the National School Board Association's annual conference in Chicago, also said the United States made visa requirements too strict for foreign students after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. But he steered clear of talking about President Bush's alleged role in leaking classified prewar intelligence on Iraq.

"We made some serious mistakes in the immediate aftermath of the fall of Baghdad," Powell told a crowd of thousands at the McCormick Place conference. "We didn't have enough troops on the ground. We didn't impose our will. And as a result, an insurgency got started, and . . . it got out of control."

Now, American troops must "stick with the people of Iraq" until order is restored, he said.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 03:07 PM
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1. He was right in the mix with them -- LIAR!
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Nomen Tuum Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 05:09 PM
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31. Yes and Colin was the #1 liar who got us into this mess
Too little and too late Judas Colin.

Hope you love those 20 pieces of silver you and your sleazy son sold out the Constitution for!
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 03:08 PM
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2. Cry us a river...
You should have thought about this before you took your cartoons to the U.N.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 03:11 PM
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6. Yes, marmar. I'm with you again on this. That speech to the U.N. was
inexcusable and either he knew it was lies and did it anyway, which is horrible, or he was duped because he's a yes-man and a fool and did it out of incompetence.

Not much to hang our hat on there, is there?

Good point, good post.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 03:14 PM
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9. Thanks. You're my Amen corner today!!!
:pals:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 03:15 PM
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12. : ) -- we're blue angels against Bush.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 09:00 PM
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39. Here are the pictures and the lies.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 03:08 PM
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3. But the people are the insurgency, stupid general.
I can't believe this idiot was a 5 star general. What a low standard we set today, when compared to past 5 star generals. Colon Blow sucks ass.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 03:21 PM
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16. 5 star militant for tyrannical corporacrats. He has no honor as a man,...
,...especially a man who was suppose to defend our people, our constitution, our laws. He was a 5-star opportunist. THAT is his medal, "OPPORTUNIST THROUGH BETRAYAL OF HIS OATH".

If he was a real man with a whole conscience, he'd apologize for betrayal and do everything in his power to re-pay his own countrymen with a commitment to taking a stand for our rights, our laws, our integrity and value.

But, he WON'T. He's too vested in the demon of personal opportunism to actually engage in something impactful for all he falsely stated he stood for.

Shame!!!
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 03:25 PM
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17. If he were still a man, he would stand up right now this very
second and admit to being fooled or a willing participant. Then he would come clean with everything, going back to Vietnam. Then he would run against someone as a Repuke in 2008 and shame Bush with his every breath.

That's what a real man would do.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 03:09 PM
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4. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, Rice, Wolfowitz made mistakes
These are the people who engineered the mistakes not some generic "U.S.". And they're still fucking up. But its just all so easy to say it, sure we made mistakes, oop's and yeah who doesn't but that don't mean we're going to do anything about it and btw, the troops are stayin'.

Tell us all something we don't know Powell.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 03:15 PM
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10. What's sad is that.....
Bush, Cheney,Rumfeld, Powell, Rice and Wolfowitz are STILL around!! Except for Powell who just sort of bowed out, the others continue their agendas and in Rice and Wolfowitz's cases....advanced! Makes sense to me! :sarcasm:
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 03:35 PM
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19. If you have a junk drawer at home, you know how refreshing it is
every now and then to dump everything out and throw away what's useless. Same thing needs to happen in Washington. Too many of these bent, broken and useless pieces of shit are around in Washington.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 04:08 PM
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24. I couldn't agree more. nt
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 03:11 PM
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5. You helped Powell


just like Sandy Day O'Connel now says that * abuses his power .... too late
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long_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 03:12 PM
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7. He's not finished "writing" his book yet?
blah, blah, blah.
His mistakes are about not having enough troops and not using enough force. Great prescription there, doc. What a squalid disappointment that man has become.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 03:14 PM
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8. STFU AND GO AWAY!!!!
YOU CONSPIRED TO INTENTIONALLY MISLEAD US!!!!

YOU HAVE NO HONOR, NO INTEGRITY, NO MORAL AUTHORITY, NO CREDIBILITY, NO LOVE FOR YOUR COUNTRY OR PEOPLE!!!

SO, STFU AND GO AWAY!!! :grr:
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 03:15 PM
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11. I can only roll my eyes at the arrogance of Colin Powell
Edited on Sun Apr-09-06 03:15 PM by Malva Zebrina
:eyes:

See that is the way it goes. Colin Powell suffers not for his complicity in aiding and abetting a war, that he most assuredly knew was based on lies.

They just go on making speeches to thousands. I wonder how much he gets paid per speech.

No penalty at all except for the disdain showered upon him by those who are aware. What's that when one can still make a lot of money in spite of what he did? Has Colin opened a lobby firm yet, I wonder.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 03:16 PM
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13. You bet --- like invading and telling a pack of lies
Powell ought to know quite a bit about the pack lies.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 03:16 PM
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14. And you wanted the war too, Powell. Where's your sense of responsibility?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 03:20 PM
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15. Well then we're going to be there a long time
Edited on Sun Apr-09-06 03:32 PM by DoYouEverWonder
since we have no intention of restoring order.

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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 03:29 PM
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18. Powell is a disgraceful person. He has no honor.
If he were an honorable man he would have refused to spew those lies at the UN and resigned. He is responsible for thousands of deaths as are the other criminals of the Bush Regime.
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joanski0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 03:36 PM
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20. Why the heck do "thousands" of people go
to see this liar. He can't even 'fess up, as his Chief of Staff, Col. Wilkerson did. I would never go to hear him, let alone pay for it.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 03:46 PM
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21. This should be in the "Where were you when we needed you?" Forum
Edited on Sun Apr-09-06 03:47 PM by BrklynLiberal
Powell has some nerve making this statement NOW!
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 03:59 PM
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22. Too little, too late, General Opportuni$t
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 04:02 PM
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23. He's a goddam General and he was in a spot to do something. He failed us.
A permanant blight on his career.
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 04:46 PM
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26. His response to you would be: "I serve at the pleasure of my president"
I've heard him say this on Charlie Rose and others.
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 04:37 PM
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25. "until order is restored"=
until hell freezes over. Bush committed us in Iraq for the next 100 years.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 05:01 PM
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29. Meanwhile, the PROFITEERS BILK OFF perpetual restoration of order.
THEY TAKE TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS for bloody imposition of "their" will,...their will is amoral, ever-consuming and barbarically obsessed with accumulation of power. They are few,....a network representing, perhaps, .005% of the human population, if that. The very few,...playing "god" in the most vicious, domineering, and profiteering way, simultaneously behaving as the antithesis to God, Christ, Muhammad, Buddha, et al destroying human potential with their mere presence. It's sick.

These are mere human beings who have no natural right to STEAL human potential or TAKE human life.
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dicknbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 04:47 PM
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27. Yuck.........
What a goddamned lying coward. I truyly hate this man.
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rusty_parts2001 Donating Member (728 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 04:57 PM
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28. Powell = 4 star prostitute
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 05:07 PM
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30. Thanks, Colin. You should have admitted this before your UN speech
I hope you're proud of yourself.

Have a nice life, knowing what harm you've caused the world.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 05:50 PM
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32. Isn't it great to be able to say "I told you so"
AFTER the fact.

Colon Bowel has absolutely no credibility, none.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 06:07 PM
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33. This is like the Viet Nam revision
Essentially, he is arguing that the U.S. didn't prosecute the war violently enough, much like the revisionists came to say about Viet Nam. In both cases it is incorrect, and the reasoning just leads to war crimes.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 06:53 PM
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34. Serious Mistake #1; invading a sovereign nation that hadn't been doing
a damn thing to anyone.

And every fucking thing since then.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 07:41 PM
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35. Powell made many serious mistakes...
long before Iraq.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 07:49 PM
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36. Cut us some slack Powell. What a bullshitter! Entering alone was wrong.
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 07:56 PM
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37. It's sad, really....
he used to have some credibility. He lost it all when he fell on his sword for this travesty of an administration.

I guess I believe he was duped, but it is an insult to his intelligence to think so. If the admin really duped him, I can see that it was intentional, to remove him from future political challenges. Without his shameful UN speech, he would be a viable Republican candidate. Now, he's just another Bushitter.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 08:04 PM
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38. tsk.tsk.tsk. powell continues to talk out of both sides of his mouth.
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Kenergy Donating Member (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 09:33 PM
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40. He's got Stockholm syndrome n/t
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winston61 Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 10:11 PM
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41. Screw you Powell,
You sold your integrity to scum and now nothing you can do or say will get that shitty taste out of your mouth. Now, American troops must "stick with the people of Iraq" until order is restored, he said. What sad pathetic bullshit, the chaos is just what the neocons want, an excuse to stay and make sure the Iraqis don't form a government that does not fit in with Americas Empire. They weren't mistakes you made before the invasion, they were huge fucking lies and you went along. I hope your conscience keeps you awake for the rest of your life.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 12:15 AM
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42. I read somewhere he is making a mint with his speeches.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 09:54 AM
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43. I just wish their collective pants would burst into flames nt
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 12:07 PM
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44. Powell sold out to the GOP - I have no respect for him. n.t
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 01:53 PM
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45. No Colin, You Fucking Traitor
Because of your lies and the lies of the one's you work for, The U.S. made only ONE Serious mistake in Iraq.

They WENT THERE in the FIRST PLACE.
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