ISP snooping gaining support

[ECH1969]

The explosive idea of forcing Internet providers to record their customers' online activities for future police access is gaining ground in state capitols and in Washington, D.C.

Top Bush administration officials have endorsed the concept, and some members of the U.S. Congress have said federal legislation is needed. CNET News.com was the first to report last June that the U.S. Department of Justice was quietly shopping around the idea of legally required data retention.

"I absolutely think that that is an idea that is worth pursuing," an aide to Whitfield said in an interview on Thursday. "If those files were retained for a longer period of time, it would help in the uncovering and prosecution of these crimes." Another hearing is planned for April 27.

http://news.com.com/ISP+snooping+gaining+support/2100-1028_3-6061187.html

[Daphne08]

1. I'm so darn tired of this spying! Are we a police state yet?

We are NOT the old Soviet Union... or are we? This is getting scary.

[Wapsie B]

2. We're at least as bad as the old USSR.

The powers that be here could never allow true freedom here.

[Teaser]

4. well, we lack a gulag acrhipelago

for our own citizenry yet. We've established an interanational archipelago for non-citizens, but that ain't quite the same....so far.

[Wapsie B]

8. Yeah yet..........

It would be nice if we actually had a two-party system that would fight for our individual rights and not that of corporations.

[AndyTiedye]

10. Halliburton Is Building Them Now

Halliburton Subsidiary Gets Contract to Add Temporary Immigration Detention Centers

WASHINGTON, Feb. 3 — The Army Corps of Engineers has awarded a contract worth up to $385 million for building temporary immigration detention centers to Kellogg Brown & Root, the Halliburton subsidiary that has been criticized for overcharging the Pentagon for its work in Iraq.

KBR would build the centers for the Homeland Security Department for an unexpected influx of immigrants, to house people in the event of a natural disaster or for new programs that require additional detention space, company executives said.…

A spokesman for the corps, Clayton Church, said that the centers could be at unused military sites or temporary structures and that each one would hold up to 5,000 people.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/04/national/04halliburton.html?ex=1296709200&en=0172899afda059e4&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss
:scared:

[Teaser]

11. Why I said "yet".

We can still stop this train, we're not fascists yet...

[AndyTiedye]

12. Of Course We're Not Fascists, But Nobody Asked Us

How do we stop it?

Protest? Done that.

Get out the vote? Done that. Got robbed again.

Call/Write/Email/Fax/Petition our Congresscritters? Still doing that.

Protest some more?

They thrive on our discontent.

[brentspeak]

13. Only in (Bush's) America

can a corporation like Halliburton, which has been caught red-handed several times ripping off the American taxpayer, continue to receive blank-check, no-bid contracts worth hundred of millions of (our) dollars.

[DBoon]

6. Who really won the cold war?

I vaguely remember one side stood for freedom and liberty, the other side spyed on their citizens and would send them to detention camps without charging them with a crime.

Now which was which?

[Dogmudgeon]

3. "These crimes"

Which crimes?

Terrah from the Moo-Lahs, or depriving the poor RIAA and MPAA of seizing the last penny of their taxpayer-supported profits?

--p!

[Atman]

5. So, did you really think all the "online predator" talk is coincidental?

Every day we hear a new story about a horrible deed committed with the help of the internet. If it isn't a kid getting lured out her Myspace account to meet some creep in the park, it's a terrorist network sharing plans or the schematic to Air Force One being posted online. Every time I hear one of these, I cringe. Remember, most of our legislators are fat, privileged old fucks who don't know an e-mail from their elbow, and haven't spent five minutes online. But they keep hearing stories about how every crime in the world nowadays happens with the help of those damned newfangled internets.

Don't doubt it for a minute. In a few years you'll practically have to insert quarters into a slot on your computer and scan the barcode on your driver's license to surf your favorite porn. Er, I mean, to visit DU, of course!

[checks-n-balances]

7. Damn straight. It'll be hard for anybody to oppose it when those

who push for it will accuse the opposition of being "pro-online preditor."

Coincidence? NO DAMN WAY!!

[Pavulon]

9. This has been

done since the 20's. It has never stopped. Telecom is built to allow the government to intercept messages.