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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 03:34 PM
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CNN producer removed from Hu photo-op after asking question

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/04/21/friday/index.html

CNN producer removed from Hu photo-op after asking question

NEW HAVEN, Conn. (CNN) -- A CNN producer was removed from covering a private meeting Friday at Yale University after calling out a question about whether Chinese President Hu Jintao had seen protesters lined up outside.

The producer, Joe Vaccarello, directed his question to Yale President Richard Levin because Hu does not speak English.

Vaccarello was told he had broken a rule against asking questions at the "photo op," during which Hu and Levin exchanged gifts and Hu met with four students. Vaccarello was escorted from the building.

He said he had not been told he could not ask questions at the event.

"Every other reporter knew the ground rules" of the photo op, Yale spokeswoman Helaine Klasky told CNN. "This was a very intimate event -- it wasn't the speech."




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400Years Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 03:38 PM
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1. oh that bow down to authority thing
such bullshit.

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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 03:38 PM
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2. Oh, Bull! Why is everyone tiptoeing around this communist?
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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 03:44 PM
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3. Do you mean Hu or Bush?
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 03:45 PM
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5. ...
:spray:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 06:08 PM
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18. giggle
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 10:46 AM
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28. lol
pwned.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 11:25 AM
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33. Jay Leno: President Who meets President Huh? nt
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 03:44 PM
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4. I think it's because his government owns over $1T of our debt

and it's the only really active buyer of those T-bills that float the huge deficits we are running up.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 03:48 PM
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6. Hu and the Gang basically funded this idiotic war in Iraq
not to mention all of Halliburton's no-bid contracts and every other treasury-robbing debacle Bush has been involved with over the last five years.

Bush should be kissing Hu on the lips instead of that despot from Saudi Arabia that he usually snuggles up to.
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 10:47 AM
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29. Hu and the Gang. LOL n/t
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 04:08 PM
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10. Exactly - in many respects, he really is the most powerful man in
the world. All our fancy military gadgets wouldn't be any use if we didn't have the money to put gas into them. One word from him to stop buying at the next T-bill auction, and we would have an instant depression.

China plans for centuries - the US is currently planning for the next fiscal quarter.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 11:22 PM
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39. More than that. China makes our missiles.
That was a greatly shortened subject line.

China Sole Manufacturer of Material for U.S. Missiles

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_diane_m__060419_china_sole_manufactu.htm

...the U.S. now remains totally dependent upon China for key rare earth metals and their production necessary in the manufacture of the most crucial of U.S. military warfare.

...Producing powered neodymium-iron-boron permanent magnets is critical to enabling control of aircraft and more specifically cruise missiles guidance systems as well as the Joint Direct Attack Munition or JDAM bomb, used prominently in the 2003 bombing of Baghdad, which preceded arrival of U.S. ground troops there. Magnequench UG, although still headquartered in Indianapolis, IN, is the sole provider of specialized magnets for military aircraft systems. But it closed down its manufacturing arm permanently in 2004 and finished relocating operations to China at that time, with its operations now solely controlled by Chinese companies with direct ties to the Chinese government.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 03:50 PM
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7. Be afraid, be very afraid.
Americans should watch what they say and do.


Ah they days of yore: Better dead than red.


Don't fool with China or no plastic toys for the kiddies.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 04:22 PM
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12. Oh, don't worry. The US really isn't big on that whole diplomacy thing
Statesmanship is so 90s whether it would help us or not.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 11:18 AM
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32. Hu is a communist in name only, a CINO. Hu is a "red capitalist"
and he is part of an authoritarian regime that has introduced class differences and exploitation in China, all in the name of Mao. This is similar to Bush invoking freedom and democracy while suppressing them at home.

BTW, China does own $1T of our debt and they will surpass our GDP by 2045. They are the rising hyper-power in the world while the US is in rapid decline under Bush.

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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 11:46 AM
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36. Link to the video clip: 'Ha Ha Ha America' here:
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gtar100 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 12:07 PM
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37. OMFG
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 03:56 PM
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8. We can't have the press asking questions,
you know. Who knows where that might lead?
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 05:26 AM
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23. Bad CNN producer! Bad!
Go sit in the corner.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 03:57 PM
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9. God forbid a member of a major news org. asks a effin' question!
Geez, this arrogance of control burns me up.
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Bush_MUST_Go Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 04:24 PM
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13. And what did bush say to HU, right before they arrested the reporter?
Mr. bush: "China can grow even more successful by allowing the Chinese people the freedom to assemble, to speak freely, and to worship."


:wtf:
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 10:49 AM
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30. it was neither the time nor the place.
he should have spoken up when the rest of the rabble had an opportunity. who exactly does he think he is anyway?
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 04:21 PM
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11. Wonder if they'll charge him with that new felony against disruption
of an official.

CNN mentioned the possibility of it being used agianst the woman yesterday. Was that part of the new patriot act? If it was applicable there, why wouldn't it be here?
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 04:26 PM
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14. Ya can't question the Emperor of China
In the olden days you couldn't even look at them without getting your head chopped off.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 04:35 PM
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15. Yales head moran just wanted to show Hu how like China
America has become.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:36 PM
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16. gee, Hu is probably a model for Bush afterall!!!
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:48 PM
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17. I don't mean to offend any Yale grads here, but I'm beginning to...
...understand what "Mr Howell" from "Gilligan's Island" meant when he would gasp after hearing someone was "...a Yale man!"

Yale Sucks. Just about everyone of the RW weasels in our current government went to Yale, and Yale has a long history as a friend of China too.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 06:13 PM
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19. indeed
the fortunes of many a Yalie were made in the opium trade. My only Yalie ancestor was class of 1748.
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nattydreds Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 09:13 AM
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25. how 'bout Yale students?
Yea, most of the RW "weasels" in our current government went to Yale, as did many of the LW "weasels" and non-weaselian politicians. Bill and Hilary met at Yale Law. John Kerry and Howard Dean were both undergrads.

Yale does also have a fairly close relationship with China. I don't claim to know a whole lot about this sort of thing, but it seems to me that a US institution having close connections with China would be one way to help keep China from walking away from US investments. While I wish we were not dependant upon foreign money, the fact is we are, and at any moment they could walk away and start a depression.

Yale also is very progressive on many other fronts. Yale recently divested from Sudan. Yale has a sustainable food program with a farm on campus, which is supplemented by purchasing food from local farmers. Yale recently set long term renewable energy and gas-reduction goals. And while this one incident in a private session with the "president" of China might point otherwise, Yale actively fosters an environment of free speech and discussion on campus.

I've seen a lot on DU about Hu's visit and the "suppression of free speech". I agree that China has a terrible record on human rights, and that many horrible violations are probably going on right now, but, unfortunately, the US is not in a position to simply tell China to "cut that out." If we are interested in seeing serious long-term progressive change in China, it means fostering a closer relationship with them. Having been on campus yesterday, I'm sure Hu did see the protesters. They were hard to miss. And I bet that he understood their signs (because they were in Chinese). What did this reporter think the Hu would say?

"Yes, I saw the protesters. Their beautiful signs have made me decide to make massive changes in how China relates to its people."

Unlikely.

Sometimes the perfect is the enemy of the good. In a perfect world, we could stop the terrible abuses in China with a snap of our fingers. This is very far from a perfect world. If we wish to use the small influence we have with China to make a difference, it will take more than the an open press briefing.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 10:09 PM
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20. If there were "rules" like that, the press shouldn't have covered it
rather than agree to be muzzled.

Photo-op indeed!
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 10:33 PM
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21. when is the press not the press?
when the Chinese president is in town.
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 10:50 PM
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22. Tricky Dick must be rolling over in his grave
Why is this man laughing?

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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 03:34 AM
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41. Nixon and Kissinger
Edited on Sun Apr-23-06 03:35 AM by fujiyama
knew full well what they were getting the US into into when they opened relations...

Those two were thugs and they knew the opportunity it held for US multinationals...
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 06:58 AM
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24. And yet CNN will continue its shamless whoring
despite the continual abuse....
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 09:44 AM
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26. We pay the salaries of the Secret Service.
We employ the Secret Service to protect Bush from physical threats.

Not to protect the Chinese President from hearing a question.

Yanking a man out of a room for asking a question is completely outside what they should be doing.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 09:46 AM
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27. In the real world versus the through the looking glass world
the "photo op" would be boycotted by real journalists. What is the point of having the press there? They can hire their own damn photographers.

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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 11:06 AM
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31. Reporter escorted from building for asking question.
But hey, making Nazi analogies to this bunch is way over the top..:sarcasm:
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 11:29 AM
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34. Since when is having Press present a reason for silience? "Intimate?"
Were their cameras just there for silent propaganda? Puppets?
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 11:38 AM
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35. The Chinese Commies have more rights than US reporters.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 09:53 PM
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38. We lost our first amendment rights a long time ago under BushCo... nt
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 03:29 AM
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40. Didn't Yale also admit
Edited on Sun Apr-23-06 03:38 AM by fujiyama
the 'former' Taliban guy into their program?

Then again, considering Bush went there...

The student body there from what I've heard is pretty liberal, but I have a feeling there is a strong sense of arrogance and elitism embedded there. The people heading the school sound like real ass holes.
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LeftistGorilla Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 01:41 PM
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42. Bush doesn't want to anger...
the guy you owe billions and billions and billions and.....
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