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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 10:47 PM
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Iraq Army weapons supply local insurgents (!!!)
Tue. April 25, 2006

UPI Intelligence Watch
by John C.K. Daly
Apr 25, 2006

WASHINGTON, April 25, 2006 (UPI)
-- Eight Iraqi soldiers, mostly privates, have turned in their company commander, a major, and a captain who were supplying army weapons to local insurgents.

U.S. and Iraqi intelligence officers had believed for some time that munitions from the Badush ordnance depot in al Kisik, near Tal Afar, were being purloined and supplied to guerrillas, who used them to manufacture improvised explosive devices.

The Badush munitions depot was established during the reign of deposed Iraqi president Saddam Hussein.
Stars and Stripes reported on April 24 that although Iraqi army officers repeatedly assured their U.S. counterparts that the magazine had been secured, U.S. intelligence noted that local guerrillas seemed to have a limitless supply of artillery shells and other military ordnance. The issue strained local relations between Iraqi officers and U.S. military commanders in northwestern Iraq.

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On March 6 the soldiers, members an intelligence surveillance and reconnaissance company, were using night-vision equipment to monitor the site when they observed two civilian cars, which they decided to investigate. Speaking on condition of anonymity, one of the men said, "We went down to question them and they confessed. They told us, 'we have bombs in our car. Don't worry though, we are only going to use them on Americans.'"

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http://www.postchronicle.com/news/security/article_21216015.shtml
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 11:25 PM
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1. In the early days of Vietnam
local cadre in the Delta advised Hanoi to stop sending snmall arms because they were getting those from the ARVN, and Communist bloc weapons caused logistical problems. They were more streamlined logistically with weapons stolen from Uncle Sam! Here we go again...
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 11:36 PM
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2. I hear a ghostly 'I told you so',
from John Paul Vann and David Hackworth.


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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 11:49 AM
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4. Americans killed by their own weapons...
It's a little hard to take, on top of all the other bad news we've had.

I'm not wondering why this isn't a front page story!
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 12:02 PM
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5. What, you expect the media to report on only the bad news?
Get with it!!


:sarcasm:

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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 12:15 AM
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3. YOU AIN'T SEEN NOTHING YET!! Saddam knew what the USA was up to
.
.
.

I doubt that Saddam is surprised at the invasion and his capture.

So he armed his nation as best he could - decentralized stores of weapons, and a confidence that the USA's arrogance would incite his people to ward off the invaders

So far, despite the USA's billions of dollars in weaponry, and thousands of lives of Americans lost on Iraqi soil

Saddam is proving to be a better military mastermind than the fool in the Whitehouse

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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 12:06 PM
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6. BTW, I thought Tal Afar area was all wine and roses?
I mean, that massive air assault and subsequent photo ops and rhetoric convinced me!

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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 12:08 PM
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7. Yes, it was pacified with air strikes and Kurdish Peshmerga
Now they're happy again.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 12:10 PM
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8. A resistance group infiltrates the occupying regime and uses
the occupying regime's weapons against them.

That's pretty logical.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 12:13 PM
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9. Hey! Wait! Check out the LAST TWO paragraphs in that article!
For the first time along the Afghan-Pakistani border Afghan, Pakistani and U.S. troops will conduct a joint military exercise, Operation Inspired Gambit.

Geo News reported on April 24 that U.S. military spokesman Col. Laurent Fox said during a press conference in the Afghan capital Kabul that the joint operation would be an "air assault exercise."


Umm...shouldn't that have been done back in, oh, Oct./Nov. 2001?!?!?!

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LexMan81 Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:51 PM
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10. ok so what we should do?
s
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:55 PM
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11. LEAVE!
post haste. This was a totally predicatable event. It is FUBAR! Time to bring them home.
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 04:07 PM
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13. or at very least
have coalition (aka American) forces guarding the Iraqi munitions depots.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 04:29 PM
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14. they were emptied
about three years ago. :(
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 05:31 PM
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15. I should have said
or at very least have coalition (aka American) forces guarding the Iraqi Army (aka American) munitions depots.
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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 04:01 PM
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12. They certainly won't fight for foreigners and occupiers
I'll bet many Iraqi army members join just to be double agents.
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