Ohio voters unhappy with Bush, poll shows (98% black voters disapprove)

[sabra]

http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1146299550124790.xml&coll=2

Ohio voters unhappy with Bush, poll shows

Washington -- Ohio voters think President Bush is doing a fair or poor job, a new Plain Dealer poll shows, with only 33 percent on average saying his performance is good or excellent.

Ohio women give Bush somewhat lower marks, and 98 percent of black voters disapprove of his performance.

Several voters who participated in the poll pinned their dissatisfaction on the Iraq war and steep gasoline prices.

"Bush lost me and a lot of people I know with Iraq," said Tom Sheibenberger, a certified public accountant from Dayton who said he voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004.

[msongs]

1. 100% of electronic vote machine makers APPROVE - that's all that matters

in Ohio or anywhere else.

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[bullimiami]

4. blackwell, one of 2% minority.

[MidwestTransplant]

26. Blackwell and his family make up that 2% I figure.

[saltpoint]

2. Kenneth Blackwell has reason to be worried, seems to me.

If Bush does poorly in approval polls, it's probably not all that good for other Republicans on the ballot.

Blue voters are pretty motivated this year.

[oldtime dfl_er]

3. the only name that counts is Diebold

http://www.cafepress.com/scarebaby/1386797

[saltpoint]

6. I say Blackwell will not be Ohio's next governor.

I'll betcha a batch of cookies.

[Jane Austin]

24. I heard someone interviewed the other day who said

that most voting machines in Ohio in 2004 were punch card machines, not electronic ones.

Very few were Diebold.

I think most of the voter suppression there had to do with disallowed registrations, purges, lack of sufficient voting machines in Dem areas and phone calls to minority voters warning them that if they had parking tickets or owed child support that they would be arrested at the polls.

That multi-pronged push apparently suppressed the Dem vote enough to allow bush to sneak in.

[3waygeek]

29. That may be

but the tabulator machines that add up the votes from punch cards, optical scan ballots, etc. are probably Diebold or ES&S, and are just as hackable, if not more so, than the infamous Diebold electronic voting machines.

Roughly 80% of the votes Americans cast are counted by machines from Diebold, ES&S, or Sequoia. Combine that with the voter suppression measures you mention, and you've got things pretty well sewn up.

[Yogi]

32. I live in Franklin country

and these are the new machines we have this year. http://www.ohiovotereducation.com/ From what I've read on the site they do have a paper trail. Who makes them? I don't know.

[goclark]

34. Yep ~ I have seen nothing yet

that asssures me that DIEBOLD is not alive and well.


Check out my journal on the idea for a Boston Tea Party.


I think it is one of the only ways that will wake up America to ELECTION FRAUD.

The MSM sure ain't waking any body up.

It is UP to US to stop just talking about it but MARCH about it and have Fourth of July Tea Parties in every town.

[DanCa]

7. Blackwell can't possibly get into office.

I am not from ohio but it seems for this mans scheming cost us the election.

[saltpoint]

8. Hi, DanCa. Blue voters I know in the Buckeye State are in strong

agreement that the statewide trend is convincingly blue right now.

The primary is soon. We may even see Jean Schmidt lose to a primary challenger.

But voters appear wildly discontent with Governor Taft and DeWine's seat is by no means a sure thing.

It hasn't felt this blue in Ohio since the days of Howard Metzenbaum.

[OhioChick]

16. If Blackwell somehow manages

to get into office here.............Ohio is even more corrupt that I already believe.

[NEOBuckeye]

31. Blackwell = Nazi

We need to keep nailing him on that fact. The man is a total sleazeball.

[AndyTiedye]

14. Blackwell Has NO WORRIES! He Can FIX The Results!

Last Fall, he turned a landslide for US into a landslide for THEM.
This Fall, he intends to (s)elect himself as Ohio's next governor.

[saltpoint]

15. OK, Andy, you're on. A batch of cookies says Blackwell is not Ohio's

next governor.

[buff2]

22. He's got to win the primary first.........

And I don't think that will happen. :hi:

[rockymountaindem]

5. Why only now? Were things better in Iraq in 2004?

I don't get it. Things were as bad in Iraq then as now. Why, all of a sudden, are people finally getting tired of it?

[MissWaverly]

9. don't you remember Bush kept saying its not that bad

I am your leader in chief, who are you going to believe, me or some democrat flip-flopper.

[rockymountaindem]

10. He's saying the same thing now, with the modification of blaming the media

Why? Why now that it's too late to do anything about it are people finally getting mad about Iraq? Do they realize that if we had elected Kerry our troop levels in Iraq would probably be greatly reduced by now, and we'd be looking at total withdrawal by the end of this year? A day late and a dollar short, people...

[MissWaverly]

11. I think that people believe Bush had some magic answer

now they realize that there is no happy solution in the last 10 minutes, I blame Tv for this,
they all have Tv show formula where a problem is introduced in the first 2/3 of the show, and the last 1/3 there is a resolution which brings about happy solution in the end, this is only
in fantasy land. 3 years of bad war strategy = getting your butt kicked.

[0007]

12. ...and paying out the ass to get it kicked real fucking hard.

[MissWaverly]

13. Yes, but the people are waking up

they are beginning to hear about windfall profits for big oil a little too often

[Voltaire99]

21. Five answers.

1. The US press fellates any president who goes to war.

2. Americans are propagandized relentlessly and don't read widely, so apprehending reality takes longer.

3. The suffering of Iraqis is immaterial to the majority, but they care somewhat more about the steady accretion of American casualties (especially non-lethal ones, whose effects are more visible as troops rotate back missing pieces and personalities).

4. The formula for support for the war isn't calculus. The SUV is costing more to fill; hence the war is a failure.

5. Losing has struck at our most cherished popular myth: our invincibility. Symbolically, Iraq was to erase memories of Vietnam and restore a "Greatest Generation" warrior mentality. The spectacular failure--combined with the coming collapse of the housing bubble--will lead to what are known as. . .interesting times.

[BR_Parkway]

17. And they've already passed "it's ok to bash gays" amendment, what

ever will they do to drive people to the polls?

[AndyTiedye]

18. They Can Push A Bill To Subject Gays to the Spanish Inquisition, Whatever…

They can always serve up more raw meat for their base.


All they need is a cover story to explain away the red shift in the vote.


The red shift is a sign that we are moving away from democracy at extremely high speed.

[brentspeak]

19. I hope Democrats won't be foolish enought to rely on "anti-Bush" sentiment

to get elected in November. That's my concern about these kind of polls.

[Laughing Mirror]

20. 2% approve of Bush

Finally a poll you can trust.

[Canuckistanian]

23. And those 2% are overdue for their meds

They really should stop calling the mental institutes.

[gordianot]

25. No poll numbers.

I can say those I have worked with in hospital setting (mentally ill) he is not very popular. I also frequently hear people claim you have to be retarded to want to vote for Bush. I know several Mentally Retarded adults who vote based on his stance on social welfare programs and have fairly sophisticated reasons for not liking Bush.

There must be other reasons and by now his supporters should be running out of excuses.

[Canuckistanian]

27. I meant no disrespect

And that's very interesting information.

That just shows that delusion is not just a defect of the mentally disturbed.

[gordianot]

28. No disrepect taken.

I have been thinking about this often. If schizophrenics can see through Bush why can't average Americans.

:hi:

[Raine]

30. 2%

approve?!? :wtf: :wow:

[gatlingforme]

33. I have no sympathy for OHIO voters, they get what they voted for

[Oak2004]

35. Actually a lot of them got

what they didn't get to vote for.

[rucky]

37. Spend 15 minutes in the elections forum. n/t

[rucky]

36. Ted Strickland has crossover appeal.

Blacks won't vote for Blackwell.
Racists won't vote for Blackwell.
For the religious folks, Ted Strickland is a minister.

The only prayer Blackwell has is that he can manufacture several thousand votes for himself.