Iran Threatens Israel if U.S. Attacks

[Roon]

TEHRAN, Iran - A top Iranian Revolutionary Guards commander said Tuesday that Israel would be Iran's first retaliatory target in response to any U.S. attack.

"We have announced that whenever America does make any mischief, the first place we target will be Israel," the Iranian Student News Agency quoted Gen. Mohammad Ebrahim Dehghani as saying.

Dehghani, a top commander of the elite Revolutionary Guards, also said Israel was not prepared to go war against Iran

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060502/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_nuclear

[xultar]

1. I suppose it will be any second now cuz...we're already on the ground

fuckin with shit in Iran right now.

[tridim]

3. And the psychos in the WH and Pentagon would love Iran to attack Israel

More easy money for Halliburton and the rest of the military industrial complex.

[aquart]

2. What else could they say?

[The Wielding Truth]

35. Absolutely. Did you ever see a chipmunk or mouse posture before the

cat's final pounce. It's sad but it's all that's left to do when you can't
escape a sure death.
Too bad it is a planned power play and not a survival hunting instinct. That's what is so bizarre about BushCo. It is a march to the sea for water whether or not they past clean streams.

[toopers]

4. Sorry, these guys running Iran are friggin' nuts!

n/t

[Ms. Clio]

8. sorry, these guys running the U.S. are even more friggin' nuts!

[toopers]

11. Not even close!

And I am no fan of *.

[Ms. Clio]

12. How many countries has Iran invaded illegally on lies, lately?

Who is talking nuclear attacks on a non-nuclear nation? It's not Iran threatening to use nukes, it's the U.S.

Who is babbling about the "Long War" lasting for decades?

Yeah, not even close.

[toopers]

13. I imagine we have a nuclear attack strategy for every country . . .

including Canada. That is part of the DoD's job. When did Israel say that Iran does not have the right to exist? Those Iranian leaders are much crazier than our leaders.

[Ms. Clio]

16. Dear god, sticks and stones, for cryin out loud

Clerics and politicians have been saying Israel has no right to exist for decades. So the fuck what? Does Iran actually have the capacity to make that happen?

What crazy mofo actually has invaded countries and killed hundreds of thousands of people and has thousands of nuclear weapons at his disposal and has been targeting Iran as part of the "Axis of Evil" ever since he stole the throne?

[Phx_Dem]

21. some people think the truth is important

"Clerics and politicians have been saying Israel has no right to exist for decades. So the fuck what?"

What does constant propagandizing do to a community/country? Personally I think the effects are far reaching, socially, politically etc.

[Ms. Clio]

22. Okay whatever

"The truth" is that Israel and the U.S. have nuclear weapons, and Iran doesn't, and those are the kinds of truths that wipe out entire communities/countries.

[Phx_Dem]

24. true, but US/Israel does not go around threatening to use them

Iran on the other hand, does not even have a nuke yet and they threaten to use them.

[Ms. Clio]

27. Guess you missed Seymour Hersh's article about U.S. threats to use nukes

Guess you also missed Bush's refusal to take the "nuclear option" off the table.

And when, exactly, did Iran threaten to nuke Israel?

[Phx_Dem]

31. the day that Israel or the US nukes someone unprovoked

will be the same day monkeys fly out of my butt.

Iran has repeatedly stated that they want to wipe Israel off the map, the have stated this in various ways in fact.

[Ms. Clio]

33. Oh, so suddenly words and truth are not so important anymore

when it's just the U.S. making threats.

[Phx_Dem]

34. who's making threats?

you still have not provided anything other than your opinion. If you don't want to back up your assertions, fine whatever.

[Ms. Clio]

36. If you can't google "Seymour Hersh Iran nuclear"

then you're pretty hopeless.

[Phx_Dem]

38. Here is as far as I got:

Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh says sources tell him Bush is "messianic" about Iran.

Yea, that's the ticket, anonymous sources.

[Tempest]

41. Hersh's sources are better than anyone else's named sources

Look at Hersh's history of breaking the big stories if you need any more convincing.

[Phx_Dem]

45. whatever nt

[ConcernedCanuk]

51. You should read more - Japan was trying to SURRENDER -

.
.
.

But the US nuked them anyways

Google for an hour or so -MORE if you are serious about knowing the truth . .

US was determined to find out how these things worked

Iraq is a testing ground for many of the USA's new weapons

Troops are guinea pigs for stuff like Depleted Uranium ( think Agent Orange from decades ago)

Iraq was "target practice" for their new satellite, laser guided toys of destruction (you can google that too - no, not for ten minutes - DAYS)

Argue not without multiple links to dispute me

I've spent hundreds of hours, maybe thousands researching since the "Shock and Awe" fiasco started raining death on Baghdad from thousands of miles away on a defenseless country.

yeah - I watched it live on CNN - and it was all I could do to stop myself rom puking all over my keyboard

I made it to the bathroom

So your country's Administration LITERALLY makes me sick

[Tempest]

30. Bush did, Cheney did and so did Netayahu

So yes, the U.S. and Israel has threatened to use nukes against Iran.

[Phx_Dem]

32. got links? nt

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[VegasWolf]

15. You are absolutely correct!!! Bush is the craziest leader on the planet.

[Ms. Clio]

17. Craziest and most dangerous

we are so screwed.

[cliss]

25. Most Dangerous.

In fact, "Mr. Danger" has been voted on, and he got 1st place.

And if we really want to know the truth, ask the Europeans. They are MUCH more vulnerable to issues with Iran. Notice, they don't seem too alarmed.

Smoke & mirrors from Washington.

[Ms. Clio]

29. "Smoke & mirrors from Washington"

yep, business as usual.

[Centered]

49. Why can't we all just agree that they are all nuts?

seems fair to me :)

[0007]

46. toopers have you look at your government lately?

[brentspeak]

47. Are you disagreeing with Toopers' assessment?

[dmkinsey]

5. Makes sense

Roughly equivalent to US policy during the Cold War.
"If you attack us we'll consider all your allies targets"

[dipsydoodle]

7. Exactly

In their world Israel and the USA are indistinguishable.

[Ms. Clio]

9. The U.S. has declared that its interests are inseparable from Israel's

so it does make sense.

[Phx_Dem]

18. really? where can I read up on that? nt

[Ms. Clio]

20. google it

and stop trying to be coy.

[Phx_Dem]

23. I'll try, Ms. Clio

but it's hard not to, you know, when someone makes a claim that cannot be substantiated.

[Ms. Clio]

28. well, you seem curiously uninformed about many things

but I don't get paid by anyone to educate you.

[Phx_Dem]

37. no, I just try not to get sucked in by propoganda

If you think that Israel controls US ME policy, then you are either very uninformed or have an agenda. Please lets stop this subthread, we are not going to see eye to eye on this, ever.

[Ms. Clio]

39. and if you're trying to portray me as someone who thinks that

"Israel controls US ME policy," then indeed, you had better stop right now, with your not-so-subtle "propoganda."

[Phx_Dem]

40. Sorry, actually I did not mean to change what you said

I realize I phrased it differently, it was accidental.

[Tempest]

43. Once is accidental

You've gone way beyond accidental.

[Phx_Dem]

44. I mis-stated clio once

don't know what you are talking about. Israel and the US have separate foreign policies, what is so hard to understand about that?

[Amonester]

6. Good thing they haven't "adopted" the NeoCON$' "philosophy"

of "preemptive" attacks for pure greed... yet.

[Wise Doubter]

10. Just like the Sopranos......

"Eh, we got your kids" :smoke:

[bemildred]

14. Here is a guy that agrees:

How does Rosa Brooks believe that Israel and Iran would fight each other? It's not as if they are neighbors. Tel Aviv is almost 1,000 miles from Tehran almost twice as far as Baghdad, which was barely in range for the Israeli fighter jets that carried out the attack on Iraq's nuclear reactor. Israel has the same aircraft today, with the same range and no real aerial tanker capacity. If Israeli planes can't get to Iran, what difference does Iran's air defense make? Their armies are hundreds of miles apart, and each would have to go through American forces in Iraq. Neither country has a navy capable of supporting a seaborne invasion or even mounting much of an attack on the other.

True, there is the rhetoric. Anti-Israel rhetoric from Iran is routine, but you need more than talk to fight a war. You have to have the means to attack the enemy. Unless Israel is planning a nuclear first strike on Iran with its own long-range missiles, both sides lack the means to lend substance to their threats.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/letters/la-le-tuesday2may02,0,5347877.story?coll=la-news-comment-letters

[QuettaKid]

26. Israeli planes could easily take off

from AL-Rashid airbase in Iraq.

[bemildred]

48. With permission they can land and take off from lots of places.

You don't really think they are going to fly through US military controlled airspace without permission, do you?

[lovuian]

19. Israel has always been the target from the get go

:nuke: the mideast is going to change quite a bit in the next few months here...

[Radioactive]

50. obvious really isnt it

They have wanted nukes so they can threaten Israel if the US attack them. If this was realistic the US would certainly think twice before attacking Iran.