36 US House Reps Want Bush Impeachment Probe

[sabra]

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/06/05/con06174.html

36 US House Reps Want Bush Impeachment Probe

(APN) ATLANTA -- 36 US House Representatives have signed on as sponsors or co-sponsors of H. Res 635, which would create a Select Committee to look into the grounds for recommending President Bush’s impeachment, Atlanta Progressive News has learned.

The two latest co-sponsors, as of Friday, were US Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-IL) and US Rep. Chaka Fattah (D-PA).

“For the House to impeach and the Senate to convict a President, the public must be fully informed and convinced by credible information that a President deserves impeachment. That means gathering the facts. Rep. Conyers' bill calls for setting up a select committee to gather information to see if there is any basis for impeachment - i.e., a violation of the Constitution - or if impeachment should even be considered. With that understanding I support H. Res. 635,” Congressman Jackson said in a statement released to Atlanta Progressive News.

"Congressional oversight is a responsibility that should be taken seriously. There are questions that need to be answered no matter where those answers lead," Rep. Fattah said in a statement prepared for Atlanta Progressive News.

[billybob537]

1. If the Right is right

they should welcome the chance to air this out and put this matter behind them.
CHYAAAH and MONKEYS could fly out of my butt.

[marla101]

15. exactly- they have nothing to be afraid of I am sure...lol...

I'm with Swanson...
“What a lot of activists group want is the next step, which is Articles of Impeachment. You don’t have to pass this type of bill first. I think there’s a fair chance that if the list of co-sponsors grows dramatically, Conyers and others will take that next step of introducing articles of impeachment,” David Swanson of ImpeachPAC told Atlanta Progressive News."

yeah why do we even need an investigation, Bush admitted to breaking the law on national TV...

"If not acted on this session, the bill would have to be reintroduced next session. It is possible that a new bill could include new language regarding Bush's approval of illegal NSA domestic wiretapping."

You mean they didn't include illegal wiretapping in the impeachment resolution?
:wtf:
Why don't they introduce articles of imepeachment over the illegal wiretapping alone? That is all we need.

I bet that more congresspeople would sign on. Everyone remembers Nixon and the evidence is cut and dry. No investigation is needed.

IMPEACH HIM NOW!

[superconnected]

2. Man I hope more join. We need to see THAT trial.

Clintons was a farce, this one would be trying a mass murderer and crook. He really ripped off america, and killed it's children.

[katinmn]

3. All right! Here are PSAs to send to radio stations to encourage

more co-sponsors!

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/9748
These Public Service Announcements are available for download and play on the radio. AfterDowningStreet.org would like to thank The People Speak radio, Pacifica radio, Ed Asner, Howard Zinn, and Noam Chomsky.

Noam Chomsky
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/downloads/chomsky.mp3

Howard Zinn
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/downloads/zinn.mp3

Ed Asner
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/downloads/asner.mp3

[William Seger]

17. Impeach, or go home!

There's no point in having a Congress at all if Bush* reserves the right to ignore any laws that pass. Bush* has declared that Congress and the Supreme Court are both irrelevant. IMPEACH, OR GO HOME!
:grr:

[54anickel]

27. Yeah, what you said! n/t

[Peace Patriot]

4. In a discovery by Illinois State Senator Yarlborough, Jefferson's Manual

of U.S. House/Senate Rules, which every Congress passes at the opening of each session, the legislature of any state may submit a bill of impeachment to the U.S. House, against the President and/or Vice President, and it is a privileged bill--it stops all other House business. No member of Congress is needed to do this.

Illinois, California and Vermont all now have such a bill under consideration. Any one of them can do it. Vermont was the first to initiate state action on impeachment, with a letter from their state legislature to the U.S. House calling for impeachment, which they are now working on converting into a BILL of impeachment under Jefferson's rules. Illinois first discovered this rule. California's bill names both Bush and Cheney (submitted to the Calif legislature last week by Paul Koretz).

So, in addition to seeking more sponsors for an impeachment investigation in the U.S. House, CONTACT YOUR STATE LEGISLATORS--and those of Illinois, California and Vermont, and urge passage of STATE bills of impeachment, to be submitted to the House.

The problem (for Conyers) of course has been the Bush "pod people" blockade an ANY accountability by the Bush junta--let alone impeachment. And there is little hope that the matter can be brought to issue in the U.S. House, by House members. But the Conyers group will be ready to act when and if a STATE bill gets submitted. The Jefferson rule (#603) trumps the "pod people"--as Jefferson likely hoped that it would do. They MUST consider it.

And OF COURSE they will throw every blockade they can in its way, but it is a privileged bill and MUST be accepted and considered. This will be an unprecedented and historic moment--the states' rebellion against an out-of-control president, and a lapdog congress. And it will most surely be the second "shot heard round the world" --American Revolution II.

[KittyWampus]

11. Peace Patriot, I'd almost prefer impeachment stem from State Houses

and not Federal Congresscritters. If it comes from states, much harder to make it look as 'political payback' or whatever.

It'd be an extraordinary measure for very serious situation.

[mopinko]

14. i agree

i think that a real people powered campaign would be a different animal all together. sign on.

[mopinko]

13. sign the illinois impeachment petition

it's in my sig. i am working the phones on this, and have high hopes. till the drugs wear off, anyway.
seriously, there is a small coalition building here to push this, and we are a hard working bunch.
please add you 2 cents to this petition. it has a handful of signatures, compared to the kudos for colbert petition.

[sofa king]

16. State-invoked impeachment might hold some water.

This isn't the first time I've heard of the proposal, but in the past I always thought it was wishful thinking. Then I bothered to actually look it up.

Turns out that "Jefferson's Manual" is in fact passed each session of Congress. Here's an example page from the 105th Congress. The section Peace Patriot refers to above is here:

Impeachment

This section of the rules seems to offer all sorts of potential for wild parliamentary hijinks. (The wildest that comes to mind? A grand jury investigating either the Plame Affair or Abramoff scandals somehow discovers that it can go "http://www.udayton.edu/~grandjur/faq/faq8.htm">runaway," and then also figures out that it can directly invoke impeachment proceedings in the House.)

Consider also this hypothetical situation: imagine that the popularity of the President and the Vice President continue to drop, yet through the miracle of gerrymandering and electronic election theft (or worse, by simply refusing to seat or vacating the seats of the new class of incoming Democrats) the Republicans maintain majorities in both the House and the Senate. Surviving honest Members of Congress, angry state legislatures, and self-aware grand juries could invoke impeachment proceedings on the House floor every single day, and that item of business would take precendent over all others... every single day. All impeachment, all the time, to the exclusion of everything else, until the bastards are tossed out.

Could it be pulled off? I doubt it. Unfortunately, all of the above works on the presumption that the criminals in charge will not ignore or change the rules! Fat chance of that, I think.

[muckraker]

22. Trying to reach Sofa King

Journalist trying to reach Sofa King. for some reason, this service will not allow me to send private messages.

[sabra]

23. I believe you need to build up your post count to be able to do this

welcome to DU!

[sofa king]

24. Hey there, muckraker!

Welcome to DU, and how can I help you? If you'd like to contact me, drop me a line at

[e-mail]

Note the extra "f". No joke.

[WhiteTara]

19. There was an chimpeachment panel in Sacramento

last Saturday. Maxine Waters was a member of the panel and discussed the problems of introducing legislation, but she promised to carry the bill into the House. I then heard that Vermont was supposed to submit the chimpeachment legistation to the House clerk on Monday. But I've not seen a word about it since.

The event itself was incredible. I was both thrilled and terribly sad that so many people had gathered enthusiastically to discuss the best way to chimpeach George Bush.

The steam is gathering and if we keep our eyes on the goal for November, work our hardest to make sure we have a Democratic majority and keep the pressure up everyday, we could have them all in jail by New Year. We can't just chimpeach, we have to demand they go to the Hague en masse.

[onehandle]

5. Great. Take back the House. This House won't impeach Bush. nt

[ixion]

6. "select committee" = "white wash". Independent counsel is the only way to

go.

Let some little attack dog like Fitz chew on the chimp day in, day out.

Couldn't happen to a worse human being, because the chimp is one of the worst.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

7. "If he's done nothing wrong

then what does he have to be afraid of?"

:shrug:

[Dr Fate]

8. Only 36?- why are all the other Democrats too frightened?

Republicans were not too frightened to impeach Clinton for lying- why are our guys too frightened to do the same?

Probably has somthing to do with wet powder or somthing. I'm sure they have a good excuse or something.

[Master Mahon]

10. re:why are our guys too frightened to do the same?

cause they're all a bunch of wuses! :+

[Dr Fate]

12. They need to watch the Colbert clip and learn how its done. n/t

n/t

[jazzjunkysue]

18. That is the ultimate question. Might as well go for it and fail. Stop Iran

At this point it would put the Iranian invasion into question. Where are all the democrats?

[Dr Fate]

21. Didnt you hear? Telling truth about Bush "makes us look weak on defense."

Or so say the "strategists" who lost the last 3 election cycles.

[IthinkThereforeIAM]

9. Isn't that nice...

... that “For the House to impeach and the Senate to convict a President, the public must be fully informed and convinced by credible information that a President deserves impeachment." is part of the plan?

Kick!

[bsiebs]

20. Funny....no republicans on the list...

Rep. Neil Abercrombie (D-HI)
Rep. Tammy Baldwin (D-WI)
Rep. Michael Capuano (D-MA)
Rep. Lois Capps (D-CA)
Rep. William Lacy Clay (D-MO)
Rep. John Conyers (D-MI)
Rep. Danny Davis (D-IL)
Rep. Sam Farr (D-CA)
Rep. Chaka Fattah (D-PA)
Rep. Bob Filner (D-CA)
Rep. Maurice Hinchey (D-NY)
Rep. Mike Honda (D-CA)
Rep. Jackson, Jr., (D-IL)
Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-TX)
Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA)
Rep. John Lewis (D-GA)
Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY)
Rep. Betty McCollum (D-MN)
Rep. Jim McDermott (D-WA)
Rep. Cynthia McKinney (D-GA)
Rep. Gwen Moore (D-WI)
Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-NY)
Rep. James Oberstar (D-MN)
Rep. John Olver (D-MA)
Rep. Major Owens (D-NY)
Rep. Donald Payne (D-NJ)
Rep. Charles Rangel (D-NY)
Rep. Martin Sabo (D-MN)
Rep. Bernie Sanders (I-VT)
Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL)
Rep. Fortney Pete Stark (D-CA)
Rep. John Tierney (D-MA)
Rep. Nydia Velazquez (D-NY)
Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA)
Rep. Lynn Woolsey (D-CA)
Rep. David Wu (D-OR)

[Pierzin]

25. impeach the mofo already!

kick

[54anickel]

26. I thought Pelosi said it was "off the table". Wonder if she's regretting

that statement yet?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2280329

[classysassy]

28. If the dems replace the rethugs

in the house,Nancy also needs replacing.

[IChing]

29. It is off the table right now but it is being prepared in the kitchen

right now by the "help",
the people,
us peons.

That desert is gonna be mighty tasty
when brought to the table of democracy.

The election in the fall
and then investigations
have to be served first at the table before
desert.