WH denies reports that U.S. employs terror groups for special ops in Iran

[Roland99]

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/White_House_denies_reports_that_U.S._0503.html

When asked if U.S. policy has been changed with respect to three different terrorist organizations that have reportedly been active recently against Iran "based on the notion that an enemy of our enemy is our friend," McClellan insisted that it hadn't.

"Our policies haven't changed on those organizations," said McClellan. "They remain the same."

"And you're bringing up organizations that we view as terrorist organizations," McClellan added.

The reporter cited three different terror group activities: "PKK going over the border into Iraq, the MEK southern border of Iraq into Iran, and also certain operations from Balochistan involving also the Pakistanis."

Uh, yeah. Sure, Scott.

[TheDebbieDee]

1. And we believe them because ...................... Why????????

[0007]

2. Because they told us so.......and don't try to tell me they torture

[superconnected]

3. The mere fact they are stating that they don't means they are.

I don't think this administration knows how to tell the truth.

[IndianaGreen]

9. Yes, this is confirmation that we are using terrorists against Iran

Anything that the White House says always turns out to be a lie.

[Chrisduhfur]

16. Their website says it Wednesday!

I bet it's really friday.

[Chrisduhfur]

15. being a smartass tonight...

so does that mean that if they said they were then it really means that they were not? :P Make my head hurt trying to figure this stuff out. I think I'm moving to the north pole, I heard SantaLand has legalized marajauna... Oh and the last war was when the elves invaded Canada to steal a moose(it was for some weird project to get a moose to fly, I dunno)

[MADem]

4. Those aren't terra groups, them's FREEDOM FIGHTERS, ya see

Cuz freedom is on the MARCH!!!!

One man's terrist is another man's freedom fighter. King George (the tea tax one) thought George Washington was a terrist...we see him as a hero.

And if you ask a Kurd living in Eastern Turkey if the PKK was a terra outfit, he'd tell you 'hell no.' A Turk will say exactly the opposite.

But what that whole business tells me is that the tip of the spear plunged into Iran might be through the Kurdish networks...and, given that our ally Turkey has a huge conscripted military, who knows how that will shake out:
Yesterday, the Associated Press reported on the ongoing hostilities between Iran and Iranian Kurdish rebels on the border (link).

"Rebels seeking self-rule in Kurdish areas of Iran operate from Iraqi territory and have been active recently, mounting attacks against Iranian army and Revolutionary Guard posts," reported Thomas Wagner and Qassim Abdul-Zahra for the Associated Press. "Iran says the rebels, known as Pejak, are linked to the outlawed Kurdistan Workers' Party, or PKK, which has waged a 22-year insurgency against Turkey for self-rule in that country's mainly Kurdish southeast."

Today, an editorial in an Turkish newspaper (link) claims "Turkish sources speculated that the U.S. told the PKK that if it wants to remain in the Kurdish mountains it has to stir up trouble inside Iran."

"Turkish intelligence sources claim the Americans have prodded a wing of terrorist Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) holed up in the Kandil Mountains of Iraqi Kurdistan to turn against Tehran and create disturbances inside Iran through a Kurdish militant organization called PEJAK," writes Ilnur Cevik....


Where you sit influences where you stand on these matters...!!

[sweetheart]

5. I did not stick a cigar in to that woman

they're always denying the same thing.

[rpannier]

6. No...no...no. Scott (aka Puffy Mc Moonface) is right

Those are not terrorists.
They're freedom fighters.

You gotta remember:

Us = freedom fighter

Them = terrorist

[FiveGoodMen]

7. Well ... if fire fighters fight fire and crime fighters fight crime ...

what do freedom fighters fight?

-- George Carlin

[peacebird]

11. excellent Carlin quote! Should be a bumpersticker!

[Jacobin]

8. Well, then, we know they're doing it

[arwalden]

10. Is This Being Reported On Any Respectable News Sources?

[Roland99]

12. Yes it is. See the link in the OP.

[arwalden]

13. Sorry... I Don't Think RawStory Qualifies As Being Respectable...

... or credible. That site is a little too kooky for my tastes. My standards for news are higher than those which Rawstory aspires to.

[Karmakaze]

14. This cracks me up...

Im not judging one way or the other, but I hear over and over again on DU people saying similar things about Raw Story, yet I have yet to see any reason to believe them. Do YOU have anything that can shed light on the matter? A link that explains why Raw Story is bad or soemthing? Or is it just a feeling you get?

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[Media_Lies_Daily]

18. So, what measures up to your "standards"? Is it the New York Times?....

...How about the Washington Post? USA Today? Time Magazine? Newsweek? They've been REAL credible over the past couple of decades, haven't they?

Do you have a link to something that RawStory has gotten wrong, or are you "feeling it in your gut"?

[arwalden]

21. Oh Dear!

:rofl:

You act as though I'm the ONLY person in the world who has ever said such a thing. Don't pretend that you haven't any idea what I'm talking about. Of course you can go on pretending... but the act isn't very convincing.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

19. How about Sy Hersh? Is he respectable enough for you?.....

THE COMING WARS
What the Pentagon can now do in secret.
Issue of 2005-01-24 and 31
Posted 2005-01-17
<http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?050124fa_fact>

QUOTE:

"The Administration has been conducting secret reconnaissance missions inside Iran at least since last summer. Much of the focus is on the accumulation of intelligence and targeting information on Iranian nuclear, chemical, and missile sites, both declared and suspected. The goal is to identify and isolate three dozen, and perhaps more, such targets that could be destroyed by precision strikes and short-term commando raids. 'The civilians in the Pentagon want to go into Iran and destroy as much of the military infrastructure as possible,' the government consultant with close ties to the Pentagon told me."

Extrapolating backwards from the date of this article, "last summer" is the summer of 2004. So, that means we've had assets inside Iran since 2004...almost 1.5 years.

[arwalden]

20. It's Not About Me... It's About Reputation

And Rawstory just doesn't have a very good reputation for being anything other than a repackaging center.

When the self-congratulatory phrase "Rawstory has learned" has become synonymous with "one of our writers read in an AP story" ... then they have definitely missed whatever mark they were aiming for.

Thanks for the link.

[libodem]

22. when ever the whitehouse denies anything

that confirms it for me. They have ZERO credibility with me. I'd believe ESP and psychic vibes before, I'd believe, anything they have to say.