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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 03:49 AM
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Poll: Conservatives Cutting Approval Rates
Poll: Conservatives Cutting Approval Rates
By RON FOURNIER, AP Political Writer
Friday, May 5, 2006

05-05) 01:20 PDT WASHINGTON, (AP) --

Angry conservatives are driving the approval ratings of President Bush and the GOP-led Congress to dismal new lows, according to an AP-Ipsos poll that underscores why Republicans fear an Election Day massacre.

Six months out, the intensity of opposition to Bush and Congress has risen sharply, along with the percentage of Americans who believe the nation is on the wrong track.

The AP-Ipsos poll also suggests that Democratic voters are far more motivated than Republicans. Elections in the middle of a president's term traditionally favor the party whose core supporters are the most energized.

This week's survey of 1,000 adults, including 865 registered voters, found:

_ Just 33 percent of the public approves of Bush's job performance, the lowest of his presidency. That compares with 36 percent approval in early April. Forty-five percent of self-described conservatives now disapprove of the president.
(snip/...)

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/05/05/politics/p012032D34.DTL


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NI4NI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 04:20 AM
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1. It won't be long
before we get to watch all the rats start jumping of the sinking ship of their fearless stay the course leaders. I'm thinking that alot of the ordinary naive nitwit voters who call themselves "conservatives" because it's been the trendy fashion are now feeling like asshats and will switch. Real conservatives might stay home, leaving only the radical wingnuts.
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Azathoth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 06:59 AM
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2. So much for the "rebound" Faux news was screaming about n/t
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 07:51 AM
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3. K & R
:kick:
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 07:54 AM
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4. Kick
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 07:54 AM
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5. Poll: Bush‘s Approval Falls to New Low (33% @ AP-Ipsos poll)

http://www.heraldnewsdaily.com/stories/news-00184280.html

Poll: Bush‘s Approval Falls to New Low

WASHINGTON - Angry conservatives are driving the approval ratings of President Bush and the GOP-led Congress to dismal new lows, according to an AP-Ipsos poll that underscores why Republicans fear an Election Day massacre.

The AP-Ipsos poll also suggests that Democratic voters are far more motivated than Republicans. Elections in the middle of a president‘s term traditionally favor the party whose core supporters are the most energized.

• Just 33 percent of the public approves of Bush‘s job performance, the lowest of his presidency. That compares with 36 percent approval in early April. Forty-five percent of self-described conservatives now disapprove of the president.

• A majority of Americans say they want Democrats rather than Republicans to control Congress (51 percent to 34 percent). That‘s the largest gap recorded by AP-Ipsos since Bush took office. Even 31 percent of conservatives want Republicans out of power.




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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 07:54 AM
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6. How long can they keep dancing around the low 30s and call it a NEW LOW?
I saw a poll a while back that had the bastard at 32, which last time I checked, is LOWER than 33.

I suspect the truth is closer to the high 20s, in actual fact.
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UnityDem Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 07:54 AM
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8. Each poll stands alone
There are many polling companies. Each one only reports on its own results. So, when they say a "new low", they mean a new low for just their OWN poll. They only compare past performances from their own polls. I do admit that this is confusing especially when SO MANY polls keep reporting new lows.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 09:27 AM
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15. Here's a better look at the whole situation
This guy compiles many polls into a single graph...

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 01:50 PM
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19. I love that graph every time I see it
It really allows you to pick out the outlying "out liars" from the mix! ABC/POST and Gallup...they must sip the kool aid at lunch!!!
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 06:10 PM
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24. I'd like to short the bush administration for 1k please.
:)
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 07:54 AM
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7. I know, well IMO, despite popular opinion here ...
that there are GOOD REPUBLICANs within our Congress. I hope that one of these people find their moral compass, set their priorities to put Our Country FIRST, vice their career aspirations and party politics to join with the Democratic Representatives to start *Impeachment Proceedings.*

I know they are "out there." I pray that they will wake up sooner rather than later because what the * Administration is doing to our Beautiful Country is NOT in accord with the wishes of our Founding Fathers, i.e., The Constitution of The United States of America.

Hope springs eternal, aye. :-) :hi:
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 01:19 PM
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17. The only one I know of
is Mr. James Jeffords of Vermont. He belonged to the Republican party. After many years of being loyal to his party, he said, "I don't recognize the Republican party any longer. It's changed too much, and we do not hold the same values".

He switched to an Independent. He has very high approval rating, by the way.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 06:09 PM
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23. YEOW!!!!
"Even 31 percent of conservatives want Republicans out of power."

Yahoo! (hillbilly accent) Thaay've beeen Saaavaad."
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 08:05 AM
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9. My fear and suspicion, living in the deep red of Indiana, is that
Bush is forcing these folks even harder to the right. One of the following scenarios is likely as a consequence: 1) The right becomes extremely splintered between old and new value conservatives (fiscal vs. neofascism). This levels the playing field with a fractured left and right battling it out. 2) Fiscal conservatives have been caught in a wave of cognitive drift and have been transformed via the right-wing brain-drain into rabid neo-fascist dogs. This creates a behemoth of mouth frothing racists now running as the "mainstream" conservative. This is not a good sign for the next election.

In my state, an old Republican who was the president pro tempore of the state leg.for 30 years just got beat in the primary by a man who advocates public flogging and racial, gender, and sex discrimination. I'd rather have neither, but the possibility of this neo-fascist running things in my district makes me cringe. This possibility is very real and I wonder if this is a nationwide trend.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 09:20 AM
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12. A lot of these people came from the "harder" right.
The things they espouse and their platform planks that have been absorbed by the repuke party are indistinguishable from the things being espoused by the radical right and the militas back in the 60s, 70s and 80s. The repukes courted them(Remember Helen Chenoweth and the militias?) and got them to come over to them as the militias and others weakened.

There ain't a dime's worth of difference now.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 08:08 AM
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10. Mmmm- foreshadowing new numbers much?
This article seems to be "softening" the populace for more good news....Bring them on!
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 09:26 AM
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14. I bet Colber's tv popularity is going out of sight.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 08:33 AM
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11. I would caution people
that not all of the Bush disapprovers are going to vote Democratic necessarily. Many of these folks, as the poll says, are conservatives mad at Bush over immigration, out of control government spending and Harriet Miers. They won't vote with us, but a good number of them may not bother to vote in November, which is a victory for us.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 09:21 AM
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13. Yeah, but...
The dems really need to get out the vote to make hay from this.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 09:31 AM
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16. Exactly. I think if we want to see landslides (barring...
Diebold interference) we need to make sure we don't have any complacent democrats in our districts. Get Out The Vote!
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 01:40 PM
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18. kick
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 01:59 PM
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20. quote from a famous REPUBLICAN :)
"You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time." - President Abraham Lincoln



And so it seems! "Honest Abe" was absolutely right! :D

:kick:
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 02:39 PM
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21. Will they be left with three types to fill the space called Republican?
Edited on Fri May-05-06 02:40 PM by higher class
If pictured on a graph there would be what is left of the Party (33%)? One line inclides PNAC, CEO's, barons, bankers and their operatives. The second line includes the reverends, self-blinded lemmings, bigots, haters, isolationists, neo-nazis. The third includes 'normally normal' people who are ruled by their loyalty to Republicans and/or their hate of anything Democratic. (Without another poll, that's 11% for each of the three groups.)

Therefore - two questions -

Can they bring some of them back without resorting to a third Pearl Harbor?

Can 33% of the country carry out a martial law declaration - assuring them that they don't have to worry about polls and election outcomes?
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 06:06 PM
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22. So now we know how to get rid of bush.
Higher gas prices, higher gas prices.

Okay, painful to our wallets, but we may be able to save america if the repukes continue hating to pay.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 06:14 PM
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25. Funny how the words 'angry' and 'conservative' go so well together.
I hope the eat each other alive.
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neoblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 06:27 PM
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26. Well, it may be at least four years late...
but it's always a welcome sight to see even the thick headed people recognize the country is on the wrong track (or really, has long since left the tracks). Still, it's one heck of a slow/delayed reaction.

Nevertheless, we can't be satisfied--we can neither trust that just because conservatives are finally unhappy with their President and Congress, that they are going to vote Democratic (that's a big reach), nor should we accept anything less than the proper punishment (criminal and political) be applied to Bush, Cheney and their lieutenants (not that anyone was suggesting we'd be satisfied short of this). We simply cannot take even the smallest chance that we've not done every last thing we could possibly do to ensure our greatest success in the 2006 elections.

We still have to face unbridled electoral fraud, and I've yet to see a viable mechanism to either determine it has occurred, much less actually prevent anything. I haven't even heard strategies to prevent or work around the traditional conservative programs intended to disenfranchise Democratic voters. Likewise, we face a media environment in which the MSM is becoming all the more bold in their willingness to present obviously falsified information or intentionally omitting all coverage of events they don't like (and we all know that their likes/dislikes conform to those of the conservatives/republicans and that 'liberal bias', if it exists, only exists in the hearts of some journalists and as far as actual media content, is effectively a myth). Also, we're still faced with being the underdog in terms of campaign finance.

So it's not so rosy as we might want it to be--and even if it is, we can't afford to act as though it's true. We only get one shot at this, and this is critically important; the survival of our form of government and way of life depends on our success. If we don't win, as far gone as our world already is, our country faces a minimum of two more years of regression and that may just be too much. Political outcomes can change, literally, overnight too. We have to be prepared to win by enough of a margin that any last minute events harmful to Democrats or benefiting Republicans won't be sufficient to cost us the elections.

Also, if we don't succeed well enough to at least recapture one house of Congress, Bush will take it as vinidication, as proof America wants more of his leadership, as political "capital" and so come out all the more motivated. We don't want to give him the satisfaction, but even more, we don't want the country to suffer further mutilation at the hands of Republicans in general.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 06:49 PM
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27. Beware! That does not mean they are on our side - it means
they are no longer on *ss's side. After we get rid of him and his idiots they will still be conservatives.
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