(Iran's)Ahmadinejad letter attacks Bush (Asks why 9/11 truth still secret

[papau]

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyid=2006-05-09T114612Z_01_N09240956_RTRUKOT_0_TEXT0.xml&WTmodLoc=NewsArt-L1-RelatedNews-2&src=050906_0807_TOPSTORY_no_deal_on_iran

Iran letter faults US, makes no nuclear proposals
Tue May 9, 2006 7:46 AM ET

By Irwin Arieff

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - <snip>"On the pretext of the existence of WMDs (weapons of mass destruction), this great tragedy came to engulf both the peoples of the occupied and the occupying country. Later it was revealed that no WMDs existed to begin with," the Iranian leader wrote in the letter, translated from Farsi.

"Lies were told in the Iraqi matter. What was the result? I have no doubt that telling lies is reprehensible in any culture, and you do not like to be lied to," he said.<snip>

He also questioned how the September 11 attacks on the United States could have occurred without the knowledge of America's extensive intelligence and security services.

"Why have the various aspects of the (8/11) attacks been kept secret? Why are we not told who botched their responsibilities?" he asked.<snip>



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4752831.stm

Ahmadinejad letter attacks Bush

Details have emerged of the surprise letter written by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to US President George W Bush. <snip>

The 18-page document has not yet been made public, but according to leaks, Mr Ahmadinejad spoke of the invasion of Iraq, a US cover-up over the 11 September 2001 attacks, the issue of Israel's right to exist and the role of religion in the world. <snip>

In another part of the letter, Mr Ahmadinejad suggests Washington has concealed elements of the truth about the 11 September 2001 attacks on New York and Washington, Reuters reports.

"Why have the various aspects of the attacks been kept secret? Why are we not told who botched their responsibilities?" he asks. <snip>


Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/middle_east/4752831.stm

[iconoclastic cat]

1. Well, that took some balls!

Damn. The mad chimp is going to nuke Iran for sure, now.

[donsu]

27. agree, there ARE people in the world brave enough to look them

in the eye and say gotcha

[Spinoza]

59. Fuckin A.

You gotta love those brave holocaust deniers like Ahmadinejad.

[SpiralHawk]

2. Why Why Why????

The AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO THE TRUTH

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

3. LOL

So Ahmadinejad is now the spiritual leader of the MIHOP / Mossad-did-9-11 crowd? Charlie Sheen must be devastated.

[Name removed]

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[Cessna Invesco Palin]

5. Oh brother.

Look, I'm not saying that nanotechnology-enhanced pirates did 9/11. I'm just saying that... I like pie.

Purple monkey dishwasher.

[mikeytherat]

23. We'll show you, especially for that purple monkey dishwasher remark!

mikey_the_rat

[Junkdrawer]

7. Actually, I find the official story as ridiculous as "Mossad-did-9-11"...

The truth, well, who knows... :shrug:

But I'll tell you, Bush's IMMEDIATE attempts to capitalize on 9/11 and the would-be-comical-if-it-weren't-so-tragic obstruction of FBI headquarters does give one pause...

[EVDebs]

19. Not only at FBI hq but policy even PRE 9-11 at the NSA per Palast

Khan Job: Bush Spiked Probe of Pakistan’s Dr. Strangelove, BBC reported in 2001
Monday, February 9, 2004
www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=312&row=0

[Radio_Guy]

13. Even Ahmadinejad knows the truth when he sees it

I think even he would be more credible than Bush.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

33. That's really a comparison I don't want to have to make. n/t

[PATRICK]

6. If those are friendly or pre-emptive leaks

I'd love to see the rest of the document! I would imagine the leaks are coming from the iranians somehow or else we have a real meltdown in the WH. It is hard to imagine what could be worse than realizing the simplest questions the MSM has avoided like the plague put bluntly enough to strike home as opposed to the usual rants in public speeches.

If so, the Iranians have taken advantage of the weak WH and struck pre-emptively- with words. At the same time the security council is turning into an alluring morass for the dumbest, most arrogant ambassador we(and most any other nation I can think of) have ever allowed in the door. For intel gathering, besides the poor souls already embroiled in Iran and too busy to see the forest for the trees, Bush is likely relying- as I believe he did before 9/11- on his own sources among the oil sheiks and Israel. And you have to be extremely smart and cautious to handle that kind of foreign "help".

Can this war be stopped? Yes, by stopping Bush and ending his illegal control and ending his peanut gallery smoke machines. Does the whole world want to stop him to stop the war? That is not clear since the more the US guts itself trying to realize an already declined Empire the better it suits many nations. If we have to tear down the media and the establishment protection this crook enjoys it has to be realized that if not the American people then no one can assuredly stop the massacre and disaster about to happen. We the people are in the possession of becoming the true legitimate leaders of this nation occupied and pre-occupied and suppressed.

[CottonBear]

8. We're pissed off at BushCo too, Mr. Ahmadinejad.

I imagine that BushCo is freaking out at this point. I wonder who is leaking and why?

Edit: I think that the Iranians are leaking. They have the upper hand now.

[HuffleClaw]

9. good for him. its about time SOMEONE challenged bush's insanity

no wonder condi wouldn't release it.

[bdamomma]

41. condi is just adding fuel to the fire, she is

another loyal servant of bush., and doing his bidding for him.

[MellowOne]

10. As a former airline employee

I've said all along that there's no way anyone could pull this off without inside help. But the main thing was why four planes were allowed to be off the radar and out of control without intervention from the military.

[wordpix]

15. why no intervention from military on 9-11? Movie United 93 gives a clue

In the movie, following the attacks on the Towers, an Air Force commander wants to take out next suspect planes that go off radar but can't get hold of BushCheney for approval to shoot down any more suspect planes.

* was too busy reading "My Pet Goat" to bother with military command while we were being attacked.

:shrug:

[EVDebs]

16. Correct. Wargames on Sept. 11, 2001 and 'insider' source info

is what you are talking about. Whistleblower Indira Singh, re the Ptech (now GoAgile) firm's access to the FAA and military's computers and software systems plus the wargames on Sept. 11, Vigilant Warrior, Vigilant Guardian, Northern Warrior, Northern Vigilance, and the CIA/NRO 'plane into building' exercise, along with a biological warfare exercise Tripod II, all add up to what you are speculating about.

Going 'off the radar and out of control' without military intervention would have required some foreknowledge and pre-planning. Plus, two hijackers living openly in the US with their names in the phonebook ?

If Ahmadinejad isn't poking a finger in Bush's eye he's taunting him with a not-so-subtle 'look how well things have turned out in Iraq' message.

Both parties should follow that French saying, 'be careful what you pray for, you just might get it'.

[leesa]

11. Excellent questions. No wonder our government will keep this under

lock and key. I would like the answer to those questions myself.

[papau]

12. The French paper Le Mond has published the actual letter!

From the French Newspaper LeMond

Document: http://medias.lemonde.fr/mmpub/edt/doc/20060509/769629_lettre.pdf

Editorial du "Monde": http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-727571,36-769635@51-677013,0.html

ne interminable leçon de morale : ainsi apparaît la lettre qu'a envoyée le président iranien Mahmoud Ahmadinejad à son homologue, le "disciple de Jésus-Christ" George W. Bush. Une lettre où la politique étrangère américaine est radicalement dénoncée, et pas uniquement au Proche-Orient ; une lettre qui justifie la prise d'otages à l'ambassade américaine à Téhéran en 1979 ; une lettre, enfin, où l'Iranien, évoquant le fait que "six millions de juifs ont été tués" par le régime nazi durant la seconde guerre mondiale, écrit : "Admettons que cet événement soit avéré, doit-il logiquement se traduire par l'instauration de l'Etat d'Israël au Moyen-Orient ?" Après cela, peut-on imaginer Washington plus disposé demain qu'hier à entrer dans des pourparlers directs avec la République islamiste ? <snip>

Article paru dans l'édition du 10.05.06

First Translated with via Babelfish then edited for readability:

An interminable lesson on morals describes the letter which Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad sent to his counterpart, the "disciple of Jesus-Christ" George W. Bush. A letter where the American foreign politics is radically denounced, and not only in the Middle East; a letter which justifies the taking of hostages to the American embassy in Teheran in 1979; a letter, finally, where the Iranian, evoking the fact that "six million Jews were killed" by Nazis in the second world war, says: "Let us admit that this event is proven, must it logically result in the introduction of the State of Israel to the Middle East?" After that, can one imagine Washington more willing tomorrow than yesterday to enter into direct talks with the islamist Republic? <snip>

[BBG]

66. Must Read!

If this is truly the text then it is a must read. And printed and shared.

Now if we could just get a version with pictures so asshat in chief would at least look at it.

[katinmn]

14. US media is spinning it as Iran criticized democracy

figures.

[ShortnFiery]

17. Our US Corporate Media is the Joke to everyone else in the world

save for under- and mis- informed Americans. :grr:

[eallen]

21. He did. Ahmadinejad is no liberal. He is a leader of the religious right.

It is the Islamic religious right, rather than the Christian religious right.

[Recursion]

25. Careful; "right" and "left" don't really apply

If there's any analog in US politics, he's a Populist. More of a Huey P. Long or Ross Perot. He's an Islamist but has also ruffled Khameni's feathers more than a few times -- as small as it sounds, look at the condemnation he stood up to when he ordered that women be allowed to go to soccer games. He walks a fine line between the clerics and the urban poor, and it's hard to pin him down as being the puppet of just one or the other.

[MrPrax]

39. Good point...

Careful; "right" and "left" don't really apply

I have noticed that folks that still use this 'trick' tend to be political party supporters who want to continue to meaninglessly 'frame' debate with this 'code'.

It seems pretty hard these days when BOTH UK Labour, the mother of social Democratic parties in the west, and the American Republican Party, a template for world's conservative movements, are moving in same direction almost unchallenged, both internally and externally.

[nolabels]

24. Err, ah, wouldn't that be corpoRATe media?

Like kind of seems to me that there is consensus among people who try to stay informed there is no real US media. The commercial corporate interest serve in perpetuation of the wealthy and what they, the wealthy, might want to hear. The Iranian cadre are either quite tactually foolish or like playing the victim.

Other than half baked or them knowing a whole lot of something that a whole lot others don't know the letter seemed ill timed, poorly presented and delivered to the wrong people. Them asking * if there was way a peaceful solution to be found is like stupid already. That is kind of like asking jackals to go on vegetarian diet.

[meganmonkey]

18. Self Delete

Didn't realize the above Le Monde link had it in full..

[lagavulin]

20. Ahmadinejad's letter seems quite rational.

The early sound bites of the letter sound quite sincere and rational. Yes it's critical of the Bush administration, but still...it seems like an opening to diplomacy, or at least conversation. But the 9/11 questions killed it dead in the water.

The NeoCons are already dismissing it and spinning it back to the Iran/Nukes issue.

[Spinoza]

60. It just goes to show you.

Even whack-job loony-tunes holocaust deniers like Ahmadinejad can sometimes eat without dribbling.

[Igel]

22. Yes, it's not what you'd call a diplomatic ouverture, by

any stretch of the imagination. In some cases, it's veiled insults at Xianity, in others, thinly disguised anti-Israel rhetoric. It says less, at times, than relevance would dictate, and less than a clear comprehension of *'s style of Christianity would mandate. There are some false presumptions scattered about, out-and-out false assertions; and the BBC, of course, limited itself to superficial quotes, unwilling to divulge what similar quotes have meant in Iranian texts in the last few years.

This is the kind of thing you have a junior undersecretary to the receptionist draft a reply to, telling him to keep it cooly polite in 18 words or less.

[Bacchus39]

26. rantings of a madman perhaps?

n/t

[papau]

28. divulge whatsimilar quotes have meant in Iranian texts in the last few yr

Sure wish someone would let the public in on what similar quotes have meant in Iranian texts in the last few years -

As is, the digs on 9/11 are interesting on their face, the digs on what it means to be a Christian are interesting given Bush's belief that he is the hand of God, and the anti-Israeli rhetoric is bull but expected. At least in my opinion! :-)

[msmcghee]

29. The message from Iran is obvious, and crucial for USA . .

He is asking for some respect - and he's saying that the Muslim world is ready to destroy civilization before they bow in deference to Bush and the West that is following him.

You don't belittle a suicide bomber who has the means to do terrible damage to us. Simple message - they're more than willing to die for respect, we will die because we refused to offer it.

I'd say they have the moral position here.

[Weaksauce]

34. So you think we should bow down

to this nutcase? I refuse to respect someone that is going to blow up the world because someone on the other side of the earth isn't being "respectful".

That guy deserves no respect and neither do any suicide bombers that target civilians.

Only point i agree w/ you on is that I do beleive he would destroy civilization if he had the chance and some divine excuse. Maybe the nukes he's developing will help him along to that goal that you seem so agreeable to.

I just don't get it:nuke:

[msmcghee]

38. I agree, you just don't get it.

Violence escalates. One angry speech elicits the next and soon followers are hurling rocks and then bullets at each other. Leaders then must hurl WMD's to retain their power. It is a well trod path of humanity that has resulted in many billions of useless deaths.

For example, Hitler was a deranged psychopath. But, why did millions of Germans follow him. Because they felt that the world disprespected them and their culture. Hitler was the inevitable embodiment of that deficit of respect that had been festering since the end of WWI. Some say an early war against Hitler would have prevented WWII. I say an early intervention and wise understanding (not forgiveness) of the German people's motives could have prevented Hitler's rise to power.

It makes no difference who was right or wrong. Each side will always believe absolutely in their own virtue. Only the psychological mindsets matter when it comes to death and destruction. The failure to recognize that and instead, elevate some stupid notion of national honor as some kind of ultimate morality is what causes war - it's what prevents pulling back from the brink and peace.

It takes some humility to accept that. As the most powerful nation on the earth that burden should rightly fall to us. We should bend over backward to understand and find the good in every culture. Even when leaders go bad, we should appeal to the goodness of the people that are being ruled by them. We should also be aware that that won't always work and we should know when open-minded fairness is a losing bet.

Clinton's efforts to unite the Palestinians and Isreal are a good example that almost worked.

But war is so much more satisfying to the emotions - and so much more useful for election campaigns.

Que lastima. (Thanks MexicoPat)

[lumpy]

42. Why bow down to the nutcase in the WH?

His actions have killed, maimed and destroyed based on lies and it isn't over yet. I refuse to respect someone who is willing to blow up countries on the other side of the world for the sake of world domination and the most precious manna on earth, oil.

[bdamomma]

43. He is not making a bomb he is using it for nuclear power.

[Phx_Dem]

52. yea sure he is--why would he lie? nt

[tomp]

67. and israel doesn't have nukes, right? they wouldn't lie, right?

why aren't we nuking pakistan, india, n. korea.

what are nations without nukes supposed to do, bow down to the ones who do? when the u.s. stops threatening the world, other nations won't have to go to such lengths to defend themselves. the u.s. is the instigator of all this.

whether for energy or weaponry, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

[Phx_Dem]

70. your position is extremely naive. nt

[Spinoza]

61. Yeah, right.

The loony-tunes holocaust denier is actually Mr. rationality in respect to nukes. With 300+ years of oil reserves they desperately need nuclear power, don't they? Makes a lot of sense. And if you are wrong? Oh well, the dead will only be Israelis--at least in the beginning. (And yes, I know all about the Shah, and Nixon and Kissinger pushing 1960s Iran to develop nuclear energy as if that is somehow proof that the crazy Mullahs and holocaust deniers who today run Iran don't want Nukes.)

[msmcghee]

49. Welcome to DU, Weaksauce!

I may disagree but I understand where you're coming from. :thumbsup:

[murray hill farm]

37. exactly!

u said that so well! And that is about it in a nutshell!

[Phx_Dem]

51. Respect?

"He is asking for some respect - and he's saying that the Muslim world is ready to destroy civilization before they bow in deference to Bush and the West that is following him."

Who is asking Iran to "bow down"? Kinda sweeping generalization don't you think?


"You don't belittle a suicide bomber who has the means to do terrible damage to us. Simple message - they're more than willing to die for respect, we will die because we refused to offer it."

Suicide bombers are fanatics and as such they don't (in general) think rationally. If they did they would not be suicide bombers.

"I'd say they have the moral position here."

You would be wrong.

EDIT: forgot to ask what am I supposed to respect about a suicide bomber?

[msmcghee]

53. Have you been sleeping?

You ask, "Who is asking Iran to "bow down"? Kinda sweeping generalization don't you think?"

Bush has rebuffed every offer Ahmadinejad has made to discuss this as equals. Bush humiliated him, refused to talk, decided instead to insult him and treat him as a DSP (dumb swarthy person).

So, Ahmadinejad scores solid points in the Arab world - and especially in Iran. Is seen as demanding due respect from Bush which elevates him. When Bush humiliates him all Iranians now want to see us humiliated in return - and they embrace Ahmadinejad as their leader.

Probably more than half of Iran wanted to be an ally of the US when Bush came to power. Now we are hated by almost every Iranian because Bush <i>disrespected</i> them. It's the neo-con way of <i>negotiating</i>.

You ask, " . . . what am I supposed to respect about a suicide bomber?"

I suspect we'll be getting the answer to that question before too long. But, you won't understand this anyway, so what's the point?

Added on edit: The point is to respect them as humans before they become suicide bombers.

[Phx_Dem]

69. I guess the UN is disrespecting Ahmadinejad too..

according to your logic.

"You ask, " . . . what am I supposed to respect about a suicide bomber?"

I suspect we'll be getting the answer to that question before too long. But, you won't understand this anyway, so what's the point? "

More senseless violence is not going to create respect for suicide bombers, but that's just my opinion.

"Added on edit: The point is to respect them as humans before they become suicide bombers"

Point taken.

[PaDem]

64. I don't know about all that, but I would say.............

what's the harm in someone meeting with this guy or representatives from his administration and talking. What's the worst that can happen?

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

30. (Ahmadinejad to Bush) Letter fails to improve US-Iran ties

Letter fails to improve US-Iran ties
By Frances Harrison
BBC News, Tehran

Last Updated: Tuesday, 9 May 2006, 14:49 GMT 15:49 UK

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4754161.stm

News that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had written a letter to his US counterpart George W Bush has triggered short-lived optimism in Iran that a diplomatic breakthrough could be in the offing.

That was until the letter was swiftly dismissed by the Americans.

Before the letter was rejected, much of the Iranian press hailed the letter as the "beginning of a new phase in Iranian foreign policy" and "a turning point in Iranian-American relations" that could "lead to direct talks between the two sides" and "showed the cleverness and dignity of the Islamic Republic".

Only some hardline papers criticised the letter, saying its contents should not have been kept secret. There was a brief spurt of euphoria that Iran's troubled relations with the West might change.

[tocqueville]

31. the letter is not secret

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1137877&mesg_id=1137877
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1137663&mesg_id=1137663

[leQ]

32. self delete (question answered)

[humbled_opinion]

35. hmmm

Things that make you go hmmmm...

[VegasWolf]

36. Because Bush is a lying mo fuka slime bag sociopath?? nt

[LexMan81]

40. I agree with him "why 9/11 truth still secret"

why its secret? do they hide something? why still some of 9/11 hijackers still alive in Saudi Arabia? these questions should be answered.

[BlueInPhilly]

47. What is "PBUH"? N/T

[jseankil]

50. Peace Be Upon Him

Used after the name of prophets have been wirriten or spoken.

[clar8130]

55. Or "Praise Be Unto Him" perhaps

[Recursion]

63. No, "Peace be unto him"

From صلى الله عليه وسلم

"salla Allahu alayhi wa sallam", "May God bless him and grant him peace".

[LexMan81]

62. are you asking me?

if yes,,, why you asking me..coz you think am muslim lol...

[ckramer]

68. If you want conspiracy, here you have it

http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=loose+change
http://www.archive.org/download/SecretEvilOf911/SecretEvilOf911-80kb.wmv

[bdamomma]

44. you know even if the President Ahmadinejad said he would

stop enriching uranium, this wingnut government would still instigate a confrontation with the Iranian government.

[lumpy]

45. Afraid the DECIDER has already

decided. After all BUshco is all about POWER.

[clar8130]

56. Well , yeah

Second largest reserve of natural gas in the world, bordering on the second largest (perhaps) oil reserves (Caspian area), you bet Bush will provoke a confrontation. Nukes are not the real issue, but nukes may quickly become the issue if these two nutjobs start playing chicken.

[Strelnikov_]

46. Sounds To Me Like He Is Rasing The Issue Of Incompetence

with a passing nod to LIHOP.

. . .

September Eleven was a horrendous incident. The killing of innocents is deplorable and
appalling in any part of the world. Our government immediately declared its disgust with the
perpetrators and offered its condolences to the bereaved and expressed its sympathies.

All governments have a duty to protect the lives, property and good standing of their citizens.
Reportedly your government employs extensive security, protection and intelligence systems
– and even hunts its opponents abroad. September eleven was not a simple operation. Could it
be planned and executed without coordination with intelligence and security services – or
their extensive infiltration? Of course this is just an educated guess. Why have the various
aspects of the attacks been kept secret? Why are we not told who botched their
responsibilities? And, why aren’t those responsible and the guilty parties identified and put
on trial?

All governments have a duty to provide security and peace of mind for their citizens. For
some years now, the people of your country and neighbours of world trouble spots do not
have peace of mind. After 9.11, instead of healing and tending to the emotional wounds of the
survivors and the American people – who had been immensely traumatised by the attacks –
some Western media only intensified the climates of fear and insecurity – some constantly
talked about the possibility of new terror attacks and kept the people in fear. Is that service to
the American people? Is it possible to calculate the damages incurred from fear and panic?

American citizen lived in constant fear of fresh attacks that could come at any moment and in
any place. They felt insecure in the streets, in their place of work and at home. Who would be
happy with this situation? Why was the media, instead of conveying a feeling of security and
providing peace of mind, giving rise to a feeling of insecurity?

Some believe that the hype paved the way – and was the justification – for an attack on
Afghanistan. Again I need to refer to the role of media.

In media charters, correct dissemination of information and honest reporting of a story are
established tenets. I express my deep regret about the disregard shown by certain Western
media for these principles. The main pretext for an attack on Iraq was the existence of
WMDs. This was repeated incessantly – for the public to, finally, believe – and the ground
set for an attack on Iraq.

Will the truth not be lost in a contrive and deceptive climate?
Again, if the truth is allowed to be lost, how can that be reconciled with the earlier mentioned
values?

Is the truth known to the Almighty lost as well?

. . .

[lumpy]

48. Thoughtful post.

Thanks

[daleo]

54. Nothing will stop Bush and the neo-cons

Except a decisive defeat. Hopefully that can be accomplished within the political domain in the U.S., or the entire world is in for a continuing escalation in wars and threats of wars.

[Veronica.Franco]

57. Reynolds: “Come Out of the White House with Your Hands Up!”

Reynolds: “Come Out of the White House with Your Hands Up!”

Ex-Bush Official Busts 9/11 Perps at U.W. Historical Society

Madison, WI
Saturday, May 6, 2006

An enthusiastic standing-room-only crowd packed the Wisconsin Historical Society auditorium Saturday to hear ex-Bush Administration insider Morgan Reynolds prosecute top administration and military officials for the 9/11 inside job.

Reynolds indicted Richard Cheney, George W. Bush, former Joint Chiefs Chairman Richard Meyers, confessed WTC demolisher and insurance-fraudster Larry Silverstein, and others for mass murder, conspiracy, and other charges including high treason. The enthusiastic response from the overflow crowd was a de facto vote for conviction on all counts.

The former Director of the Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis, showed that the defendants conspired to create a false cover story of suicide hijackings in order to “blow the World Trade Center to kingdom come” with explosives—a shock-and-awe psy-op designed to coerce the American people into supporting a pre-planned “long war” in the Middle East, massive increases in military spending, and the rollback of Constitutional civil liberties.

http://chicago.indymedia.org/newswire/display/71971/index.php

I am STILL unable to begin a new thread ... would someone like to use this link to start one? ... It should be posted ASAP! ... thanks ...

[m0nkeyneck]

58. great question

[lovuian]

65. iran telling bush we have your dirty little secrets

and Bush must have went damn...

[UpInArms]

71. Why was the WH Situation Room Director (Deborah Loewer) in FL on 9/11?

As Director of Communications Dan Bartlett points to news footage of the World Trade Center Towers burning, President George W. Bush gathers information about the attack at Emma E. Booker Elementary School in Sarasota, Fla., Sept. 11, 2001. Also photographed are Director of White House Situation Room, National Security Council, Deborah Loewer (directly behind the President) and Senior Advisor Karl Rove (right).


Another Warning

If Bush wasn't told while in his limousine, he certainly was told immediately after he got out of it. US Navy Captain Deborah Loewer, the director of the White House Situation Room, was traveling in the motorcade when she received a message from an assistant back in Washington about the first crash. Loewer said that as soon as the car arrived at Booker, she ran quickly over to Bush. "It's a very good thing the Secret Service knows who I am," Loewer later said. She told Bush that an aircraft had "impacted the World Trade Center. This is all we know."