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pippin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:02 PM
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Phone operators refuse to cooperate with police to block anti-Bush calls
"Phone operators have refused to co-operate with police to block anti-Bush protesters from using mobile telephones in Central London.

An emergency plan to create a mobile-free “bubble” for the President was branded “hysteria” by Orange, the second-largest mobile phone provider. It said that the police had no power to compel Orange to switch off its transmitters. . . .A spokeswoman for Vodafone said that the only time the police or the Government had the power to restrict the use of its network was during a national emergency. . . .

The plan being considered is to create a “sterile area” some 15 minutes before Mr Bush gets into his armoured Cadillac and 15 minutes after his return. Among the many demands made by the White House was a mobile telephone blackout whenever the President left Buckingham Palace."

Times of London
November 18,2003

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,9389-899758,00.html

Britain stands its ground! :bounce:
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:05 PM
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1. Ain't freedom a wonderful thing?
n/t
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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 09:03 AM
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63. yeah
I vaguely remember when we had it.
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:05 PM
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2. Unbelievable!
And yet none of this translates for the chimp: PEOPLE HATE HIM!! People can be silenced for only so long. They're trying so hard to shield chimp from reality.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:05 PM
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3. YES!!!!! Take your "sterile area" and shove it!!! GO BRITS!!!!
I love it, in your face!!!

Let all hell break loose!
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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:07 PM
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4. I thought W was all about standing tall
What a chickenshit.
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moosedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:12 PM
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8. Believe me....
he is shielded from everything. I wonder if his views of himself is the way we see him.
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:14 PM
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11. Eggzactly!
Remember the little crying baby JPG your repuke friends would send whenever the Dems complained about something? We need something like that. Some sky-is-falling chicken-hawk thing.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 04:45 AM
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44. Lots of choices here.. Photoshoppers get busy
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 05:17 AM
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45. Nah, but he'd like you to think he is and the
press is now trying to help him. I saw a headline on Yahoo! this morning that read "Bush To Brave Protests and Appeal for Solildarity". Such a brave little despot.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 05:30 AM
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46. those Yahoo headllines are disgusting to watch
they change every half hour or so-I get the Reuters and the AP headlines on my page. Mostly they are calculated to make Bush look superb and they can be very annoying.


Right--Bush to "brave" protests--and he is gonna tell them protestors to pound salt! He is going to show them what a powerhouse he is so they better shut up and sit down! Brave my ass--he is a measly, puny little AWOL coward and has been all of his life.
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 07:54 AM
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60. Marianne, don't hold back...
just come right out and tell us how you really feel about shrub.

:)
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:09 PM
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5. I wonder if our cell phone providers would have caved?
hmmmmmmmmmmm
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:13 PM
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9. In a heartbeat
Britain continues to show Imperial Amerika how Free People behave.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 07:32 AM
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53. Caved?
That implies a request comes first. Hell, they probably are busy right now researching voice-recognition technology to detect leftist discourse in real time.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 07:42 AM
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54. It would have been THEIR idea...
"Say, how about we shut down our network so you don't have to deal with protestors. Would that be cool or what? Just need a coupla keystrokes to make it happen..."
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 07:50 AM
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58. It is probably a clause buried in Patriot Act 2
Edited on Wed Nov-19-03 07:51 AM by are_we_united_yet
eom
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 07:52 AM
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59. T-Mobile Caved In
One T-Mobile user in SW7 London is complaining that his service is being jammed.

Link: http://www.interwebnet.org/
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:11 PM
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6. If they are this paranoid for Bushit's safety
in the country of our oldest, closest ally, can you imagine the chimp visiting some where less friendly. The man is a disgrace and an embarrassment to the USA - he should have just stayed home and teleconferenced with the poodle!
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Katarina Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:26 PM
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15. My question is...
how "sterile" of an area can it be is Chimpy is in it? It would seem to me to be more of a festering assbasket area.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 08:00 AM
Response to Reply #15
61. Welcome to DU
:hi:
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 09:06 AM
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65. Man, and Katarina can turn a phrase!
Welcome to DU! "Festering Assbasket" indeed! :)
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:36 AM
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35. I don't think it's his safty they're worried about
I think that they don't want people taking digital pictures of what goes on down there and transmitting them!
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Paschall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 06:05 AM
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48. More likely the worry is organizing by phone
To avoid/circumvent roadblocks, checkpoints, etc.

Like illegal rave parties in France. Somebody sets up an answering machine with instructions to the party site, then everyone can call in to congregate at "ground zero."
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:12 PM
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7. Bush* really thinks he's king of the world!
Well he's wrong and I'm glad somebody's standing up to him.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:14 PM
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10. Brits stand up to Adolf Bush!!!!!!!!!
One small victory at a time
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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:18 PM
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12. Actually, it IS a national emergency. The world's biggest terrorist is in
town!

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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:26 PM
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14. Exactamundo! !! n/t
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E_Zapata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:24 PM
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13. Can you imagine the WH directive to UK authorities?
It must have been a BOOK of requirements.

And I bet dollars to donuts, there was no 'asking' going around...just telling.

And the UK just says NOPE...sorry king george!

Why can't the US make things this uncomfortable for georgie.

I hope we are ALL paying attention to how it's really done!

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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:27 PM
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16. meanwhile, our troops are flying in defective helicopters
while Bush is pissing off his hosts with his paranoid demands, our helicopters in Iraq are flying without the standard protective equipment.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:33 PM
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22. very good point
I :loveya: London.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:12 AM
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39. They should
throw his ass out the door, and his boots, w/ the hick pickles.
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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 06:34 AM
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50. Like maybe a cloaking device ?
I'm not so sure how much protective equiptment you can put on a copter that is flying in the desert sky. There is no place to hide.. precious few things to duck behind. Makes for a great target for small arms fire and RPG's

All the talk about "protective devices" is to distract from the real truth... These things are sitting targets. Like the rest of our troops over there.

But then again, maybe bush can persuade the Romulans to part with a cloaking device or 2.. :silly:

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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 09:00 AM
Response to Reply #50
62. No, the N.G. Choppers do not the Armor that Army has
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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 09:09 AM
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67. They don't?
I was unaware of that. Extra armor is always a good thing if going into a war zone.
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:29 PM
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17. A fine hour.
A fine hour indeed.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:30 PM
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18. The Brits should be proud of their stand against fascism!
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:31 PM
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19. it seems the country we freed ourselves from is more free than we are.
the protesters, the phone company, the Queen herself. for those of you about to protest, we salute you.
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:31 PM
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20. This is too funny
Way to go Orange, you tell the bu$h baby he can't have the whole city under quarantine. He could have stayed home after all.

It won't be long before the bu$h baby will have his own bu$h mobile modeled on the "pope mobile" with the bubble top. Instead of the pope's massive headdress however, the huge bubble in the bu$h mobile will be to accommodate his big empty head.

Sonia
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:59 PM
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31. And, and, and,
Edited on Wed Nov-19-03 12:01 AM by Oaf Of Office
the bubble top will be shaped like a penis. :D
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Sparky McGruff Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 02:02 AM
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42. No-- that's Ace and Gary
The bubble topped car shaped like a penis belongs to Ace and Gary -- the ambiguously gay duo!

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Paschall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 06:20 AM
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49. The French get a little praise, too
Edited on Wed Nov-19-03 06:20 AM by Paschall
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:32 PM
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21. Bush's visit may constitute a national emergency
A spokeswoman for Vodafone said that the only time the police or the Government had the power to restrict the use of its network was during a national emergency. . . .

I don't understand why they would want a cell phone black out

that makes no sense
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:39 PM
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25. because cell phones can be used to set off bombs
Bush is exceedingly cautious because he knows where he's going when he dies.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:44 PM
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28. But I'll bet they actually want to disrupt demonstrators' comms, mainly.
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Mokito Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 04:39 AM
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43. My thought exactly...
Just trying to keep them in the dark.
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:59 AM
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38. Nahhh
The reason they want the blackout area is because protesters organize on the spot using cellphones and other wireless technologies.
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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 06:39 AM
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51. Bluetooth devices can be harassed
Text messages can be sent to other cell phones with bluetooth technology without the consent of the reciver in a small aera...

Like, say : "Bush Sucks" or "Yankee go home"

Haven't done it myself, but understand it's pretty easy.
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:37 PM
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23. Junior is suffering from extreme 'delusions of grandeur'.
He needs a psychiatric examination (and cure!) pronto...before he drives the entire world absolutely mad!

:silly:
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:45 PM
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29. He really thinks he's King!.............LOL!!!!!
I wonder is he will ever get the picture.
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:08 AM
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34. He just might if the Queen takes him horseback riding in the country.
Her Majesty is quite the expert horse woman. And, Junior can't even ride a pony. He's deathly afraid of horses!

I would just love it if the Queen insisted that they go riding in the country. Can you imagine Dumbya's / AKA "windshield cowboy's" consternation and embarrassment? Even Raygun went riding with Her Majesty.

There they are at Sandringham...and, the pResident hollers:
"My kingdom for a horse...or, my horse for a kingdom..."

Maybe then he'll get the picture, after all.

:evilgrin:
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 05:54 AM
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47. Shrub Falling Off a Horse in front of the Queen of England
what a photo-op that would be!!
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:38 PM
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24. They hate his freedom.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:40 PM
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26. One way or another, the Brits are letting Dumbya know that the emperor ...
...has no clothes.

Bless the British press.

Bless the British people.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:43 PM
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27. LOL!!!!........Silver spoon W does get his way in London?........LOL!!!!
:nopity:
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 11:55 PM
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30. They must REALLY hate OUR freedom to do a thing like that!!!
!!!!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:00 AM
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32. The US media should be reporting the demands Bush is making
on the Brits.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:38 AM
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36. Dont make me laugh- are you being sarcastic?
Bush/media reports what Bush/media WANTS to report.

We will NEVER see a mainstream US television report with that list...
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Entente Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:01 AM
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33. Democracy is scary! and great!
This is what democracy really sounds like: Ringggg Ring!!



Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 12:51 AM
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37. Wait till they pull all this shit next year in NYC....just wait....
it'll make '68 seem like a tupperware party...
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:15 AM
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40. Demilitarize the Police is a new organization in NYC.
Edited on Wed Nov-19-03 01:17 AM by NYC
We are hoping to avert this sort of thing next year.

The web address is http://demilitarizethepolice.netfirms.com

Anyone interested in joining can send me DU mail.

Edited to add telephone number: 212-969-8045
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Sacajawea Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 01:58 AM
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41. I hope a million people show up and paralyze his route through London....
Edited on Wed Nov-19-03 01:59 AM by Alskade
...and if they would all happen to MOON him that would be a lovely gesture also! :evilgrin:

To everyone over there on the other side of the pond: A BIG THANK YOU, for doing what we're not allowed to do here in the U.S.
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LibLabUK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 06:46 AM
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52. Err..
The headlines in the papers should read:" Bush Whitehouse demanded Londoners be placed at risk".

Do they not realise how many people rely on their mobile phones to make 999 emergency calls?


I'd be mightily pissed off if a family member was having a heart attack and I couldn't get a mobile signal.
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It was not a pretzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 07:46 AM
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56. His visit has already endangered the public
Alot of police stations across the are only open 9 till 5, and police are rarely available, even via 999 calls. Now he's got 15 000 of them guarding the bastard.
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 09:08 AM
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66. Excellent Point!
AWOL's pride always comes before everyone's life, health, loved ones, etc.

What a weak 'president'!
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 07:46 AM
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55. chimpy's trip sure is a debacle.
What a mess he has created wherever he goes, attempting to squelch freedom and democracy everywhere he slithers.
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 07:47 AM
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57. Corporations To bu$h: "Piss Off, Wanker!"
So we have two corporations telling the Boy King not to meddle in their money-grubbing business. How ironic is that? Corporations are one of the few things that bu$h worships, and here are two basically telling him to stick it!

Goddess, I love the smell of irony in the morning!

:evilgrin:
dbt
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 09:05 AM
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64. "They're Lucky They Live In A Free Country" where they can tell AWOL
to shove it up his fat a**!!
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