Border troops would be temporary, US tells Mexico

[kskiska]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush assured Mexican President
Vicente Fox on Sunday he did not intend to militarize their countries' mutual border, but was considering sending National Guard troops there to temporarily support border control efforts.

"The president made clear that the United States considers Mexico a friend and that what is being considered is not militarization of the border, but support of border patrol capabilities on a temporary basis by National Guard personnel," White House spokeswoman Maria Tamburri said, describing a telephone conversation between Bush and his Mexican counterpart.

Fox "reached out" to Bush on Sunday to relay his concerns about the plan that is under consideration, Tamburri said.

Bush will deliver a televised address to the nation on immigration on Monday evening. The White House said last week he may propose deploying more National Guard troops along the 2,000-mile border to stop illegal immigration.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060514/us_nm/usa_immigration_dc_3

[global1]

1. Hey Foxy - Don't Get Your Shorts In A Knot - They'll Only Be There....

until my poll numbers go back up. Oh - and I need a photo-op too.

[Julius Civitatus]

21. ...until the photo-op is over

Bush and his Rovian tricks... So damn transparent!

[geomon666]

2. Riiiiiiight.

Why don't we just make the entire country like Escape From New York?

[FreakinDJ]

3. Could be a ploy

Most likely this going to fuel resentment and hostility.

and the Great Divide goes on.

Stop persecuting the illegals, go after the employers WITH JAIL TIME for things like TAX EVASION and let those that deserve to stay apply

[Whoa_Nelly]

4. They're lying! They're Lying! GODDAMMIT! THEY'RE LYING!

EVERYTHING this asswipe of an American pResident has said is the polar opposite of what is really going on, what the real intent is, and the short to long term plans those evil and vile motherfuckers of BushCo/PNAC want in place!

GODDAMMIT! THEY ARE LYING! :mad: :mad:

[magpie]

16. Yes, they are lying.

Am I the only one that feels a draft?
I am going to put a sweater and a tin-foil hat on - but I swear I feel a draft...

[0007]

34. Within the next year, I think we'll see a draft.

[MadMaddie]

5. Yea...kinda like being in Iraq for 6 weeks or 6 months...that worked

out real well didn't it! Rotten Bastard!!

[Poll_Blind]

6. "As long as it takes and not a moment longer" (Rumsfailed on Iraq)

(sigh)

PB

[Acadia Blue]

7. Of course they are temporary. Just to please his base. They want

milions and millions of illegals crossing over so corporations can pay SLAVE WAGES and save money on the backs of workers. Remember that the money people Corporations are Bush's base.

[TomInTib]

8. "We'll leave 'em there a few months and them Messkins will

forget to even think about going North ennymore".

God...

Get real, idiot.

[IndianaGreen]

9. Anyone that believes Bush is a fool

Nothing that man ever says is ever true!

[sweetheart]

10. liebensraum to the south

Bush could use the army to take half of mexico and do an israel and
kick everyone out in the name of democracy! it makes as much nonsense
as any other policy of this stupid criminal warmonger resident moran.

[adriennui]

25. how does one "do an israel"

not everything in life is analogous to those nasty, wascally israelis and the plight of the palestinians.

i bet some folks check their closets and look under their beds every night.get a life....israel is the size of new jersey and has about 8 million people. the paranoia is breathtaking.

[sweetheart]

26. who would want to know

What merit is worth imitating?

"In fair israel, where we lay our scene,
From ancient grudge break to new mutiny,
Where civil blood makes civil hands unclean.
From forth the fatal loins of these two foes
A pair of star-cross'd lovers take their life;
Whole misadventured piteous overthrows
Do with their death bury their parents' strife.
The fearful passage of their death-mark'd love,
And the continuance of their parents' rage,
Which, but their children's end, nought could remove,"

its already art

[adriennui]

40. my point is not everything can be related to israel and whoever

the anti-israel sentiment in some places depresses me.

[Lithos]

11. So why...

Did Bush remove from his budget the funds necessary to support a civilian effort?

L-

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. I hate to say it

but there IS GOING TO BE an incident....

[FreakinDJ]

13. Exactly Right

that was the first thing I thought of when i heard the News

The country will be further polarized on the issue (hate groups vs: hispanics) and Bush will run to the rescue with his programs that further allow employers to exploit workers while depressing wages for the working class.

Pure Rove..

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. You are thinking local politics

I am thinking... the summer of 1847 around the Nueces River... historians do not truly know who fired first... muricans claim it was the Mexican Dragoons, Mexicans claim it was the US Cavalry... you know how that party ended.

Mexico has oil... and... the leftist candidate IS POLLING extrmely well

[FreakinDJ]

17. No I don't think so

But that is the second time I have heard that.

The first was from a religious group - so ya it is a scarey possibility

[nadinbrzezinski]

22. I fear in their addled mind

that IS the plan....

I grew up down there... and I'd hate the US invade Mexico, especially if this is for bullshit reasons. But as a student of history, this will NOT shock me.

[Shipwack]

38. Invading Mexico is more cost effective than...

...invading North Korea. It's closer to our supply lines, we can use our own air bases, and best of all, we don't have to repaint our vehicles green or issue jungle cammies...

(I'm only kidding, I think...)

Hmm... having a hostile neighbor bordering the US gives a great excuse for all sorts of draconian measures. Too bad those cursed Canadians are too -nice- to oblige us...

[Rose Siding]

14. "Temporarily"...Just long enough to stage the shot

http://static.flickr.com.nyud.net:8090/32/60079231_200afcb328.jpg

[Vidar]

18. "Through the election " is my guess.

[Democrats_win]

19. War-like, knee-jerk, half-assed response. It did work in Iraq. Right?

[Critters2]

20. Just through the mid-terms n/t

[Canuckistanian]

23. Militarism is all he's got

That's his solution to everything. 9/11, Al-Qaeda, Taliban, Afghanistan, Iraq, Katrina, Bird Flu, Iran....

"When the only tool you have is a hammer, you tend to look at every problem as a nail"

[belab13]

24. Dry run before Marshall Law is imposed

borders closed, ... etc...

Has congress voted on this yet????

[Solon]

27. Actually its Martial Law, not Marshall, but one thing that worries me...

are checkpoints WITHIN this nation to check the citizenship of people before they can enter the rest of the nation. This actually happened before, back in the 1980s, in the Florida Keys, the US government set up a checkpoint to look out for Illegal Immigrants from, I think mostly from the Dominican Republic, and the citizens of the Florida Keys got so pissed off that they were viewed as foriegners that they "seceded" from the country. Granted it wasn't "official" no nation recognizes their "independent" status, and they themselves don't take it that seriously, but it was a good way to protest, the checkpoint was taken down soon afterwards.

Look it up here:

http://www.conchrepublic.com/

[Bridget Burke]

28. There are internal checkpoints North of the Border....

Here in Texas, especially.

[Solon]

29. Where?

Granted, its been a while since I was in Texas, but spent about two months travelling all over that state on vacation about 5 years ago, and never encountered any checkpoints that asked for ID.

[Bridget Burke]

30. I'm not sure of all the locations...

April 26, 2006, 2:06PM
TRAPPED IN THE VALLEY
Beefed-up checkpoints are disrupting the lives of undocumented residents, but enforcement advocates say that's part of the plan

By JAMES PINKERTON
Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle

HARLINGEN - Stepped-up immigration enforcement in South Texas has made a long-standing predicament even worse: Increasing numbers of undocumented residents find themselves trapped, unable to get past beefed-up highway checkpoints.....

The newest permanent checkpoint is a $15.5 million state-of-the-art facility along Interstate 35 north of Laredo. It opened April 14 and is part of a security buildup during the past five years in which the budget for the U.S. Border Patrol increased by $451 million and its staff by 1,722 agents.

Roadside checkpoints are located all along the U.S.-Mexico border, some of them more than 80 miles inland.

www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/3820053.html

[Solon]

35. Ugh, that sounds ugly...

I'm glad those things weren't around when I toured the state, with my Puerto Rican girlfriend at the time(she wanted to go to Sea World). I was the one driving, she didn't even drive at the time, she was 18, and lived in St. Louis, not having a driver's license isn't exactly unusual there. But I could only imagine what type of hell she would have went through if we were stopped at ibe if these checkpoints. In fact, the only ID she had on her was her College Student ID, didn't even have her picture on it!

[VegasWolf]

31. Just till the 2006 election! nt

[Caoimhe]

32. exactly my thought! nt

[REACTIVATED IN CT]

33. Another Contract for Halliburton ?Border Patrol to be Privatized ?

I thought I heard on NPR this AM that National Guard will be temporary - until the border security can be privatized. I can't access NPR website from work. Did anyone else hear/read this ?

[primavera]

36. A pile of shit by any other name still reeks

I always love the way Repukes will deny doing the very thing they, in the very same sentence, freely and openly admit to doing. "We're not militarizing the border, we're just using military forces to enforce the border." What does he imagine "militarizing the border" means if not precisely what he's proposing to do?

[Supersedeas]

37. Election year politics, ya know

[classysassy]

39. the minute(noun) men

oh goody,now the racist minute men and hags can go home.