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cain_7777 Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 02:25 PM
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Kerry to Bush: 'Stop trying to rescue your poll numbers'
It's about time the Democrats started coming forward with an actual idea. Keep'em coming and we'll have the House and Senate.

John Kerry on President Bush’s Plan to Put National Guard Troops on the Border

Below is a statement from Senator John Kerry:

“This is a moment when the far right is horribly wrong and leadership is required to set a course for common sense. We need a comprehensive answer to immigration that includes tightening border security, but putting another burden on the backs of the National Guard troops who are serving their second tours of duty in Iraq and Afghanistan isn’t the right answer. The National Guard which has borne the burden of a broken policy in Iraq shouldn’t have to bear the burden of an incomplete immigration policy. The right answer is to listen to the 9/11 Commission and put the border patrol agents we need right there on the border. It won’t satisfy the right wing, but it’s the right policy.

“That’s why I’m introducing a plan to put an additional 1,000 additional Border Patrol agents on the border next year, plus more 100 helicopters and 250 more power boats to secure our borders.

“We know the problem and we know the solution. Rather than try and rescue his poll numbers, President Bush can rescue good immigration policy from the right wing that’s exploited it, and he can provide presidential leadership that’s humane, realistic and responsible.”

more @ link: http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/news_theswamp/2006/05/kerry_to_bush_s.html

Posted by Frank James at 8:04 pm CDT
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 02:26 PM
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1. te he Great jab kerry!!
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:46 PM
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24. Not a bad uppercut, either! Great to read, isn't it?
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 02:27 PM
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2. and just think these National Guardsmen
we supposed to work just weekends, and occasionally help out in their OWN states. They don't even get paided like the military does. Why don't they just hire more Border patrol guards. Bush is such an asshole.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 02:35 PM
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5. No one in their right mind will join the guard.
If they want to be active duty they should just join the military and get the perks.
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cain_7777 Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 02:36 PM
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6. We need the national gurad for emergencies
Although BUsh is in the middle of an emergency with his approval #'s but seriously, They are over-extended and * can't throw the military at every problem he has. We need real solutions for the long term, not just a quick fix that will only work long enough to keep his numbers up till November. This administration is so short sided that it can't even see the train coming.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 02:29 PM
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3. Kerry promoted real port and border security during the 2004 campaign and
the corporate media just didn't think it was an issue worthy of discussion. After all, the swiftliars and the gay marriage frighteners needed that precious airtime.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 02:37 PM
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7. That's Right He Did
Good God why do we have this psych, greedy, head case in office... I know, I know. Because America itself has it's head up entertainment's ass. Fiction has replaced reality. The new drug.
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cain_7777 Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 02:42 PM
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8. When it became an issue with the ports deal where was Kerry?
The Dems are so quiet all the time. Their strategy is to let Bushco self destruct, but if the dems were as aggressive as republicans bushco might have gone off already. I know they don't have much political strength as the minority, but they do still have voices that can dissent when needed.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:01 PM
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13. Kerry's been on port security since before 9-11 and after he ramped it up
and made targeted speeches focusing on port security in his campaign. No media interest. They never even covered his speeches.

When it became a media issue this year, instead of the media saying "OH yeah, Kerry was talking about that for years", they covered their own asses and said "Democrats never talked about port security before, but now they want to make it an issue to hurt Bush."

If corporate media is your source of information, your post makes sense - Do yourself a favor and expand your access to information.
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cain_7777 Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:12 PM
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16. You got me all wrong, coppa!
During the campaign Kerry did voice his concern over port security a lot, and it did get coverage. I am talking about all the things that Bush has done since then that the Dems should have jump on. I really think they need to start digging their teeth in even more than they have been. Where were all the dems when Feingold broght up censhure? Where were they on the tax cuts for the rich? We need them to be more vocal with idea's for an alternative to every bush policy. Bush has flushed this country down the toilet and we need the dems to start paddling us out.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:51 PM
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26. Be the echo
Schumer hammered the port story. Reid staged a walk out over investigations, censure is just another step on the same path. They've ALL been hammering on tax cuts for the rich. There's Dean's 6 point plan or Kerry's 10 point plan, take your pick. YOU take responsibility for being part of the Dem echo chamber. The reason you know anything about port security or censure or where the tax cuts really went is BECAUSE OF DEMS. Ya' friggin... grrr...
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cain_7777 Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:58 PM
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28. Yes, I know about these things, but I want more!
I want up front and in your face tactics. With every bad Bush policicy we need a combination punch. Pelosi, Reid, Feingold, Murtha, Clinton, Kerry, and the others need to just lay out Bush with a barrage of dissent that points out his illfated policies before they pull us deeper into a hole.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:01 PM
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29. Be the echo
They do. Go to their web sites, read their press releases, BE THE ECHO. Quit waiting for someone to take you by the hand because it just isn't going to happen that way this time. That's what all of Kerry's recent dissent and speak out speeches have been about, letting you know that you are going to have to carry some water.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:55 PM
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33. And on DSM? On Alito? On Iraq withdrawal plan? On Katrina legislation? On
Kid's First universal healthcare for all children?

Come on, Kerry has been leading on all these issues but corporate media is not interested in giving Democrats enough airtime to counter BushInc. And they're certainly NOT interested in replaying Kerry's statements and plans because that would mean outing themselves as being incompetent for not covering these issues during the campaign.
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cain_7777 Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 05:30 PM
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35. I agree
Kerry has been the front runner on a lot of issues. If we had the House and senate, we would have been a lot better off and all these issues would have been resolved already. Alito would not be a Justice, we would be out of Iraq, if we had even gone in the first place, and Katrina victims would surely be much better off with the assistance they need. I just want the Dems to keep pounding bush and get their message out loud and clear.
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cain_7777 Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:17 PM
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19. By the way, I never watch MSM
That is one pile of crap too big to sift through. I prefer to find that shiny piece of truth here at DU...the piles a lot smaller.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 05:32 PM
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36. Then you should have known Kerry was all over the issue - as much as the
corporate media allows Dems to be all over an issue. The old, If a tree falls in the woods syndrome the GOPs have engineered over the last couple decades.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:16 PM
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18. There were several releases.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:29 PM
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20. Who owns the M$M?
"The MSM as GOP shill"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=1185472


Where did/do/will ANY of this even "appear" in the Corporate $tream Media?
"TOP DEMOCRATS TAKE A STRONG STAND ON CHALLENGING ISSUES"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=1148036

And WHY not?? (Answer inside first post's linked links.)
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 07:49 AM
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45. And that is ALWAYS the bottom line that the Dem party needs to deal with.
They own the volume control button on EVERYTHING.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:35 PM
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32. He had a statement out the next day
He was the first to point out the conflict of interest for both Secretary Snow (who's former company which he had stock options from sold operations to the UAE company) and Sanborn ( who until) weeks before worked for Dubai ports.) He did not get TV or attention, because he made no comments that could be construed as anti-Muslim.
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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 02:33 PM
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4. Chimpy is a flipflopper...
He'll do or say anything to get votes. I hate politicians who do that and I'm glad Kerry is pointing this out in public.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 02:44 PM
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9. STICKIE Award goes to John Kerry!!!
'Stop trying to rescue your poll numbers'"

:bounce:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 02:47 PM
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cain_7777 Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 02:52 PM
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11. What's AIPAC?
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 02:58 PM
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12. ???
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:35 PM
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21. AIPAC has a position on Mexican immigrants?
:rofl:
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AlamoDemoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:03 PM
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30. AIPAC has position on anything and everything..
"In a recent issue of The New Yorker, Jeffrey Goldberg compared the power of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) to that of the AARP and the National Rifle Association. If that strikes you as incredible, consider a conversation he had with an AIPAC insider Steven Rosen in which Goldberg asked if AIPAC's influence had diminished. "A half smile appeared on his face, and he pushed a napkin across the table. 'You see this napkin?' he said. 'In twenty-four hours, we could have the signatures of seventy senators on this napkin.'"
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 05:09 PM
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34. (singing) I'm just a napkin on Capitol Hill.
(Crap - that doesn't rhyme.)

I have always wondered how a napkin became a law.

:) Make7
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:01 PM
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14. Thank you, Senator. nt
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:06 PM
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15. More than a few people inside the Beltway will log this comment
as a highlighted passage of the downfall of the Bush presidency.

Bush's agenda, such as it was, is bankrupt. He can't even get his own party to pay attention, and when they do, it's just to point out how flawed or unacceptable Bush's approach is.

Kerry's got him cornered on this one, no question about it.
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cain_7777 Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:14 PM
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17. I hope Kerry has him cornered
Kerry needs to follow up on this and continue the attack
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:41 PM
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23. No doubt he will, and no doubt he won't be alone. The GOP at
last sees -- it takes them forever of course -- that this Bush administration is a diseased rat. The longer it is allowed to fester in the house the worse it stinks and the more dangerous it becomes.

I believe the delay in the Rove indictment has little to do with Will Pitt or Jason Leopold or my Great Aunt Lois' butterscotch pie. I think Fitzgerald is tweaking the legal terms on Rove to his face to see if Rove will finger Cheney.

I think Dick Cheney is going down, and that he'll be out of there by July 4th.

While Kerry is a Democrat, and Democrats are partisan same as Republicans are partisan, if Bush' theatrics are reduced to "He's only doing it to jack up the poll numbers," it will make the rounds of policy-makers and heavy-hitters and players in DC. The Beltway gets knocked out in the heartland, but the Beltway is where policies are forged.

Kerry's slap at Bush here will make the rounds, I predict.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:39 PM
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22. Bush will sink himself while trying to "save" himself.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:15 PM
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43. You mean he's in the thrashing stage now?
.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:50 PM
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25. I'm not crazy about Kerry, but kudos to Kerry! Kerry's is similar to Bush
....So Kerry's plan is just as weak.

Quite frankly, if these new immigrants would pay into the health
and tax system like all of do than half the problems would be resolved.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:53 PM
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27. They do
And proving all their taxes have been paid is part of the Senate legislation. If people knew what the hell they were talking about, half the problems in this country would be resolved.
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dback Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:10 PM
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31. Quoth Joy on "My Name is Earl": "Oooooohhhhh, SNAP."
Kerry's definitely swinging for the fences these days--still mad about '04, or setting up for '08?
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United NorthAmerica Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 06:02 PM
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37. Too Perfect
This is too perfect. A bush bot that I often argue with, to my frustration, has said this is exactly what need to be done, but dems would never do it he assumes so quickly. I cant wait to point this out next time the immigration issue comes up. Which will probably happen when he starts about how great his Prez was last night. :puke:

Thanks.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 09:07 AM
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46. He should rewatch the debates and re-assess.
.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 07:05 PM
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38. It's a catchy meme to use for Bush: JUST TRYING TO GET HIS POLL NUMBERS UP
We should use it about EVERYTHING he does from now on.
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 09:46 PM
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39. That is a great quote! And...
Senator Kerry's border amendment passed in the Senate today! :woohoo:
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 09:50 PM
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40. Kerry shoulda called him THE BAND AID PRESIDENT...
Everything Bush does when fixing things is BAND AID...his brains is too shallow for long term SOLUTIONS
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 10:41 PM
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41. Keep this up and I'm going to start cheering for Gore/Kerry.
:patriot:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:17 PM
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44. The damage will take at least the both of them to fix, PLUS a whole team
of every solution-oriented Democrat this country can access.
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allalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:07 PM
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42. chasing your betting losses is how gamblers get in trouble.
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iilana X Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 03:26 PM
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47. They are too late for a rescue anyhow.
He's dead Jim.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 12:53 PM
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49. Nah - they'll reach an added 5% who they can scare with gay adoption or
gay marriage or gay teachers or gay anything. These people are so craven.

But, I do believe most people are getting sick of the tactic and WON'T give them the expected response. They may reach 5% with it, but can no longer count on the10% they USED to get from their homophobia.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 03:51 PM
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48. I'd just as soon he didn't give advice to Chimp
not that he'd take it, of course. Hm...maybe that's the -idea-???
:D
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