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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:28 PM
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Verizon Refuses to Deny Participation in the NSA Spying Program
Verizon Refuses to Deny Participation in the NSA Spying Program, Hides Behind Federal Government “State’s Secrets” Privilege
By MCLU
May 19, 2006, 21:33

PORTLAND -- In a 44-page response to the Maine Public Utilities Commission today, Verizon refused to confirm or deny cooperation in the illegal National Security Agency program, arguing that the Public Utilities Commission lacks the authority to investigate whether Verizon has provided NSA access to its customer records and its switching machines in Maine. Verizon further asserted a "state secrets privilege.” The state secrets privilege, when properly invoked, permits the government to block disclosure of particular documents that would cause harm to national security.

“We were surpised to see Verizon make the state secrets argument because only the government, not private entities, can assert that privilege,” said Shenna Bellows, Executive Director of the Maine Civil Liberties Union. “Use of the state secrets argument indicates that Verizon lawyers may have worked closely with federal government lawyers in drafting a response to the PUC. Both the PUC and Senators Collins and Snowe should proceed with a thorough investigation of Verizon’s actions.”

Following Maine guidelines for complaints directed toward a utility, the Maine Civil Liberties Union had joined James Cowie in organizing a “10 customer complaint” with the PUC. The complaint, which calls on the commission to investigate whether Verizon has allowed the NSA access to customer e-mail and phone communications, was filed on May 8. The complaint questions whether circuits have been installed in any Verizon facilities within Maine to facilitate NSA surveillance and whether the records of Mainers have been included in any data mining samples provided to the NSA. On May 15, the PUC requested that Verizon “address, in its response to the complaint, the extent to which the actions alleged in the complaint and in the USA Today article implicate the privacy rights of Maine telephone service subscribers described by 35-A M.R.S.A. § 7101-A.”

“I’m dumbfounded that this corporation is trying to hide behind the federal government’s state secret privilege,” said James Cowie, MCLU member and lead complainant in complaint case Docket No. 2006-274. “Verizon’s response reads like it came from the government, instead of our local telephone company. I hope Senators Snowe and Collins would be concerned about this as well.”

http://magic-city-news.com/article_5902.shtml
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Veronica.Franco Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:33 PM
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1. Sounds like a government response? ...
It probably is ... all of Rove's men put that together for them ... they think they are a subcontractor of the NSA? ... they believe this will work? ... amazing ...
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:34 PM
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2. At least their not lying strait out like the others.
but yeah, this is freaky:

“Verizon’s response reads like it came from the government, instead of our local telephone company. I hope Senators Snowe and Collins would be concerned about this as well.”

There you go Libertarians...I'll betcha didn't know that if you removed all restraints corporations would merge and BECOME the government, setting up Soviet style survelliance systems. Its all about maintaining the BALANCE of power.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:45 PM
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3. Can You Say RICO?
I knew you could.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:55 PM
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4. Verizon is a Nazi Rat Bast*rd Fascist Corporation.. whats supprising??
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Kenergy Donating Member (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:58 PM
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5. Sounds like Verizon is lying n/t
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:43 PM
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6. I guess it's OK to use the word "fascist" now.
Edited on Fri May-19-06 10:49 PM by tanyev
"We were surpised to see Verizon make the state secrets argument because only the government, not private entities, can assert that privilege"
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cyr330 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:50 PM
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7. Anybody use Verizon wireless?
I don't, but if I did, I would change service asap.
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Veronica.Franco Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 11:35 PM
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8. To which service? ...
They all do this ... it will come out eventually ... who would have ever thought we'd be dealing with a fascist government ... it's like something out of a WWII NAZI movie ...

I have Sprint, Verizon, AT&T ... all the NAZI providers ...
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 07:34 AM
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9. Snowe and Collins generally only go just so far-then tow the Repug. line.


...“I’m dumbfounded that this corporation is trying to hide behind the federal government’s state secret privilege,” said James Cowie, MCLU member and lead complainant in complaint case Docket No. 2006-274. “Verizon’s response reads like it came from the government, instead of our local telephone company. I hope Senators Snowe and Collins would be concerned about this as well.”
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 07:36 AM
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10. most discussion about NSA went behind closed doors in the Hayden
hearing.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 09:53 AM
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11. I would argue that the assistance Verizon received from govt lawyers
is income and should be reported on federal filings and their financials. Failure to do so is a violation of SEC rules.
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fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 01:29 PM
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12. When you see a double negative, you can
rest assured that it is about evading truth.
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